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Postby EFFalcon » June 24th, 2012, 3:21 pm

Started messing around with 3D scanning on the weekend, there are some pretty cool tools out there for it now that werent available last time i looked lol.

the one i've found best so far is based on the xbox Kinect sensor along with software called ReconstructMe.

couple of examples.

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Will look at attempting a whole car at some stage, the biggest issue is getting the computer hardware to a place to do it :P
not sure how well it'd work outside.

then to order a 3d printer to have some fun with the scans :P
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 24th, 2012, 3:26 pm

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Re: 3d Scans

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Looks tops!
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby Nikk O'lass » June 24th, 2012, 9:39 pm

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Re: 3d Scans

Postby Rollin » June 24th, 2012, 9:44 pm

That comes up pretty well!

Once you've got it sussed I'll drive Gloria down so you can do a 3d scan of her so I can have a miniature too :)
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby misk » June 24th, 2012, 10:08 pm

would it be possible to transfer the scan to a CAD or machining err machine (ie. CNC)?
could be a sick and easy way to get shit done up in billet or whatever
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby needfordspeed » June 24th, 2012, 10:38 pm

EFFalcon wrote:Image


Hey I recognise that!

What's a 3D printer worth these days? Looks like it'd be alotta fun
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby AaronEF8 » June 24th, 2012, 10:54 pm

What's the polycount like on the guards and tyres?

Can these be imported into 3dsmax?

rFactor2 is in beta atm, it uses 3ds for the cars :P
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby Bipolar » June 25th, 2012, 10:40 am

That's sick.

Was also wondering if that could be CNC'd.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby ausedwagon » June 25th, 2012, 11:10 am

let me know if u can do a car, im working with a mate doing a salt racer and a 3d scan of the car could help with tweaks to reduce drag
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 25th, 2012, 11:43 am

Rollin wrote:That comes up pretty well!

Once you've got it sussed I'll drive Gloria down so you can do a 3d scan of her so I can have a miniature too :)


FIrst thing i'll be doing will be trying to make some miniatures :P

i'd like to attempt a scale model I6 with a turbo on it :P (not functional, just for looks)
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 25th, 2012, 11:49 am

misk wrote:would it be possible to transfer the scan to a CAD or machining err machine (ie. CNC)?
could be a sick and easy way to get shit done up in billet or whatever


deffinately, it needs to be converted, but it can be done.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 25th, 2012, 11:51 am

needfordspeed wrote:
EFFalcon wrote:Image


Hey I recognise that!

What's a 3D printer worth these days? Looks like it'd be alotta fun


anywhere from $1000 to $2000 seems to be the range for a majority of them now.
limited by layer thickness, but i'll give it a crack anyway.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 25th, 2012, 11:51 am

AaronEF8 wrote:What's the polycount like on the guards and tyres?

Can these be imported into 3dsmax?

rFactor2 is in beta atm, it uses 3ds for the cars :P


can't recall, the poly counts, but they can easily be reduced.
when scanned its massive, but they can be optimised fairly quickly.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 25th, 2012, 11:53 am

ausedwagon wrote:let me know if u can do a car, im working with a mate doing a salt racer and a 3d scan of the car could help with tweaks to reduce drag


will keep this thread updated, i know it *can* be done.
but how good the results are in the typical outdoor / garage have to wait to be seen :P

If it ends up being relatively simple, i might look at buying another laptop to make the process simpler
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby Rollin » June 25th, 2012, 2:58 pm

As I said on FB a 1/10 scale 'print' of a boxcar would be awesome for a buck that you could then use to make lexan RC bodies. I'd buy a couple!
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 25th, 2012, 3:48 pm

figured i'd have a crack at the whole car :P

started with the Territory, which was a fail.
White car = bad apparently.

However, i was doing it outside...

So the BA got the go..
Reflections have a big impact on the ability to scan it, however only really bright reflections (ie. The sky)
applying shodow over problem areas helped significantly.

Once i've got room to get a car back in the garage i'll have another attempt, alternatively, i might try a canopy over the car to see if that can help.
I'd also like to try it at dusk, or later in the evening to see what difference that makes.

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Re: 3d Scans

Postby Bipolar » June 25th, 2012, 9:40 pm

Never thought about it before, but a B-Series would look sweet as a convertible!











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Re: 3d Scans

Postby holmsy » June 25th, 2012, 9:49 pm

scan the death wagon. matt paint might not reflect so much :P
then again it may not like black either?
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 25th, 2012, 10:03 pm

nah, i actually thought about that tonight, was kinda annoyed with myself for not thinking about it when i had all the equipment setup :P
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby ausedwagon » June 26th, 2012, 10:48 am

well if u need a lacky to help let me know i should have my car running again in a couple of weeks
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 26th, 2012, 10:58 am

cheers for the offer, ordered a 2nd PC last night, just gotta pick up a decent graphics card to drop in it then i can hopefully be a little more portable :P
was going to get a laptop, but was looking like i'd need a $2k+ laptop to get something capable of doing what i need reliably, $2k on something that *might* work doesn't sound like a good idea :P

also ordered a 3d printer today, unfortunately there is an 8 week wait, but eh :P
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby apoc » June 26th, 2012, 11:46 am

What sort of video card you after? I may have one lying around.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 26th, 2012, 11:50 am

I need atleast a Radeon HD 5870 (what i've tested on)

A GTX 550 upwards may work too.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby apoc » June 26th, 2012, 1:23 pm

Ah. Takes some serious grunt then! Best I've got in the parts box is a 4870.

A GTX560Ti is pretty cheap nowadays anyway!
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 26th, 2012, 1:28 pm

yeah its all graphics card :P
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby apoc » June 26th, 2012, 1:33 pm

So the better the video card the better it can compensate for reflections / scan with higher accuracy? Or is it more a speed thing?
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 26th, 2012, 1:44 pm

bit of both... the better the video card the better it can process in real time.
the more video card memory, the high resolution and/or bigger area you can scan at a single time.

I'd like to see what a card with 2GB on memory can do, my current one has 1GB and does a reasonable job
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby apoc » June 26th, 2012, 2:25 pm

GTX690? :grin:
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby Rollin » June 26th, 2012, 2:45 pm

Does it use the camera or the infra red? If it's not the actual 'normal light' camera it might work best in the dark?
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 26th, 2012, 2:46 pm

lets not get too excited here :)
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby Sunboost » June 26th, 2012, 4:05 pm

That's pretty cool. BA pic reminds of when I was doing work experience at Ford back in June 2001 and they let me have a run of their 3D imaging shit that could bring up all the BA parts.

Excuse my ignorance, but why would you want to 3D print any of that stuff?
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 26th, 2012, 4:10 pm

i wouldn't necessarily want to print any of the stuff i've scanned, its more a matter of working out what does and doesn't work.

in saying that, scale model's are big business, people collect small versions of things they already own, or wish they could own.

just exploring whats possible.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby EFFalcon » June 26th, 2012, 4:12 pm

Missed your post Rollin: the depth information comes from the IR feed. i intend to try it in the dark to see what difference it makes.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby ausedwagon » June 26th, 2012, 4:30 pm

print a model car.
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Re: 3d Scans

Postby apoc » June 26th, 2012, 10:47 pm

Model of the deathwagon would be sweet! haha!
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