el surging using fuel generating heat split 2 brake boosters

[waynesworld66]

hi all i have an el 300k on it and its surging gutless and generating enough heat under the bonnet that it has split 2 brake boosters this week temp gauge runs hot but not boiling and fuel consumption is about the same as a b double you cant drive it in power mode its auto as it cant work out what gear to use but in economy it changes ok not properly but ok when you get to 100k if you are are very gentle on the throttle it nearly runs properly any ideas

[Steady]

checked for vacuum leaks?

[waynesworld66]

well i try its definately got one at the moment the booster is split to the centre

[galapogos01]

Timing massively retarded.

[weavahhh]

Timing massively retarded.

[BBQBurner]

Split or fallen off map sensor hose.

[waynesworld66]

thanks fellas i will check all that out today we have 40 acres under hotrods and toys prob got 16 odd ea b d lyin around but only one other el to rat and already used its booster so my other question would be does anyone have a cheapy for me can swap ya or pay

[95frd]

could it be a blocked cat ..??

[waynesworld66]

hey fellas i replaced the booster map sensor fitted a heat shield flushed out the radiator and replaced the bottom radiator hose even a new rad cap checked it over for split vac hoses etc everywhere it stopped the really bad surging still went like a slug give it a new air filter about the same not getting as hot so i hooked up the car trailer (it was night and had a couple of motors on it) and headed off to greta nsw from shep it was still a slug but doin the job by the time i went through syd the trailer was mt it was day and she was gettin hot so when we got to greta put the el on the trailer behind the unreg holden i bought went to woy woy to pick up a vw took the el off and me mate drove it followin me with the trailer it was still sluggy but doin ok on the heat side puled up in gundagai and the idler pully just started to squek as it idled at the pumps and then just fell off so its still there apart from gettin a new pully any more ideas its got a new thermostat and i cleaned the rad with the pressure washer before i left

[waynesworld66]

could it be a blocked cat ..??

it seems ok but i reckon i might just get rid of it cant hurt can it

[burnt turtle]

my head hurts after reading what you write
send it to a mechanic if you cant find anything!!
why the **** would you tow a car with a car you know if playing up/faulty????????????

[waynesworld66]

my head hurts after reading what you write
send it to a mechanic if you cant find anything!!
why the **** would you tow a car with a car you know if playing up/faulty????????????

it was towin a trailer at night in the cool not loaded with a car and really all that stopped it was the pulley that can happen its not part of the real problem its been like it for a bit and i reckon its been to mechanics accordin to the fella i got it off anyway

[galapogos01]

as has already been said, CHECK YOUR TIMING.

[Rollin]

Yes, TIMING!!!!!!!! Check the balancer hasn't slipped before you check the timing too.

After that, check the cat.

[_JP_]

burn it and buy a boxcar, problem solvered

[waynesworld66]

thanks fellas that and a few oyher bits and pieces i reckon we nearly got it

[waynesworld66]

Yes, TIMING!!!!!!!! Check the balancer hasn't slipped before you check the timing too.

After that, check the cat.

good point thanks

[waynesworld66]

thanks everyone its been a while but the el is all good, picked her up took her home another booster as the last one was leaking a new tensioner and a radiator checked the timing (it was retarded) it was also down a little tranny fluid and now its running as it should.