Noob question bout ricers

[G3R3N]

Was having a doob with a mate n we had to pop the bonnet on his Mazda 323 vv

And the engine bay looks more or less like this vv


My question is: if the headers are at the front of the engine, how does the tailshaft hook up to the crankshaft??? Chain driven??
Whereas, on the Fords, the engine is inline with the tailshaft etc...
I have no idea how this engine setup could drive the wheels... Even if it's FWD...

Can anyone please shed light on this most likely simple engineering for a dumbass??? thanks
Chris

[Steady]

I highly doubt the engine bay in his 323 looks like that, but I'll play.
The gearbox is sideways.
Axles with CV joints go into it.
Surprisingly, because there is no drive at the tail end of the car, there is no tailshaft.
There is no diff, because you don't need anything to turn the drive 90 degrees, because it already is.

[syko4d]

its called east west mount or something like that it is basically the same except the tailshaft is c.v joints wich go straight to the wheels

so your gearbox is your diff aswell

i know what you mean by the qustion and if you ever are unlucky enough to have to change a clutch in a fwd car youll see its actually a easy little system and as i said looks pretty much the same as a normal one

[G3R3N]

Steady, no that engine is not my mate's.. lol but yeah there for reference
So the gearbox is much smaller in these than in an E-series for example?
And then how do u work the gearbox? Is it electric or still mechanical..?

[spope]

Have a look at this:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential1.htm

Will give you the best idea of what is happening.
Wether the gearbox is bigger or smaller depends on the car configuration and what sort of engine is being used.
It is still an entirely mechanical system.
It's really hard to give more detail without giving heaps more (somewhat boring) engineering information.

One thing though - don't believe anyone who flat out says front wheel drive is crap. EVERY drivetrain configuration has positives and negatives.

[Steady]

FWDs are crap to do engine swaps on
Namely if that FWD is in an 85 astra, I don't recommend it.
The only time I've almost died for the sake of a fucken car...
Working under a ford scissor jack.

[[D1SCNT]]

FWDs are crap to do engine swaps on
Namely if that FWD is in an 85 astra, I don't recommend it.
The only time I've almost died for the sake of a fucken car...
Working under a ford scissor jack.

you know your a madknt mechanic when u work under scissors.

[nommic]

Here's something I whipped up in Paint.



j/k

http://www.procarcare.com/icarumba/reso ... shaft1.asp

[G3R3N]

That last diagram is tops!!
Makes a lot more sense to me now, thanks nommic

[Malakai]

I'm tempted to ban everyone who participated in this thread. Unbelievable!

[syko4d]

why it was a simple question of curiousity?

[Airved]

+1 for ban everyone on these forums.

Happy Australia Day.

[EL XR8]

Ban yourself for writing that last comment about everyone...

[G3R3N]

...ban everyone

hahaha.. BAN EVERYONE!!! BAN BAN BAN!!
BWAHAHAHA BAAAANNN!

[Damo]

+1 ban


/bandwagon

[syko4d]

u wont ban us all youre scared hahahahaha

[EL XR8]

Sorry Airved, that wasnt meant towards you, it was for 89AIT

[Malakai]

Your proving my point by defending yourselves.

[Rollin]

And to think some kent posted on here the other day, thinking he was a noob for asking how to convert from CFi to MPFi . You guys are shocking. I'm not angry, just disappointed

[Airved]

Ban Rollin!

[AaronEF8]

FWD? Like a forklift?