Death of a forum? Xfalcon vs ozfalcon

by **nstg8a** » March 19th, 2013, 6:24 pm

I'm sure the members on here that are also members on xfalcon have seen what happened on xfalcon over the last week or two, for those that don't, xfalcon was sold to an American partnership that basically only runs forums for revenue.
This lead to 99% of the long term members jumping ship to support the new forum, created by some of the original xfalcon members.
http://Www.ozfalcon.com.au

The reason behind this thread is two fold, one, obviously to raise awareness of the new forum, and secondly, just a reminder for people not to take things for granted.

Is boosted controlled by one person? Or a team? I know we have admins and everything, but who name is actually on the domain title?
As that's all it took for seano to sell out xfalcon.
Even though it was supposedly a joint ownership deal, because the domain was in just one persons name then no one else has a leg to stand on.

One wrong move and ill sell it. They offered $3 but I'm gonna hold out for $4.

by **Troutman** » March 19th, 2013, 6:48 pm

This is already a spin-off of another forum, which was in turn spun off from an international one.

by **NUT347** » March 19th, 2013, 7:19 pm

I own it.

You're all fucked.

by **Commando** » March 19th, 2013, 7:37 pm

Fordforums.com... Lol

by **EFFalcon** » March 20th, 2013, 7:30 am : **Wes Likes this post**

wasnt aware of what happened to XFalcon... certainly interesting as they had such a decent following.

In terms of the controling of the main aspects of this site, my name is on everything.

If there came a time where i wanted to step down, i'd hand it to someone within the club to control
but in saying that, theres SFA to do.

its not like it takes bulk amounts of time/resources

by **SnipeZ** » March 20th, 2013, 9:29 am

Till death do you part aye John?

Cheers

by **Sunboost** » March 20th, 2013, 9:54 am

How much coin was XFalcon worth? :cool:

*serious question.

Theres too many ford forums. Fk them all off I say.

Who needs a forum with 10 members??

Honestly if AFF wasn't run by a pack of downies I'd say everyone should just use that.

by **Staff** » March 20th, 2013, 11:18 am

xfalcon was a good site, was originally set up for XD to XF but recently opened to all X-series.

Then sold.

Sad IMO, but Meh.

by **Eb Barbie** » March 20th, 2013, 11:59 am

Way too many forums around. You don't need a seperate forum for every make/model.

Central place for all wins IMO.

TUFED6 wrote:Honestly if AFF wasn't run by a pack of downies I'd say everyone should just use that.

^^ Agreed!

by **Commando** » March 20th, 2013, 12:26 pm

I disagree. Bring back vicfords!

by **Sunboost** » March 20th, 2013, 12:40 pm

TUFED6 wrote:Theres too many ford forums. Fk them all off I say.

Who needs a forum with 10 members??

Honestly if AFF wasn't run by a pack of downies I'd say everyone should just use that.

I hate it how I have to jump on here and browse through 3 different forums to see build threads, on AFF there's a million different forums for different makes / models etc, then other forums - then there's remembering passwords and shit like that.

Sucks balls.

by **Basstr0m** » March 20th, 2013, 1:41 pm

Most domains are held either by a company or an individual depending on the way it's all set up.

I helped set up a new site for one "club" and had the domain in my name for a while. Then I left (aka felt like I got shafted) and transferred it to someone else's name.

I agree though, there are too many out there. In SA there's at least 4 or 5 different clubs or chapters of a national forum. Too hard to keep track of it all.

Don't sell this one :-P

seems to be one of the best from what I've seen.

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by **ford_racing_8** » March 20th, 2013, 2:38 pm

Xfalcon is now owned by Americans..... Unlucky.

by **nstg8a** » March 20th, 2013, 3:46 pm

Sundeep wrote:How much coin was XFalcon worth?

*serious question.

New owner claims to have paid 10k +.

by **nstg8a** » March 20th, 2013, 3:47 pm

Staff wrote:xfalcon was a good site, was originally set up for XD to XF but recently opened to all X-series.

Then sold.

Sad IMO, but Meh.

Opened up to all x series, and advertising added to make it more sellable.

Apparently ad revenue was $350ish a month.

by **misk** » March 20th, 2013, 8:26 pm

I reckon the **** that left are having a fuckin teary for something that really doesn't have anything to do with them.

So what if it was sold to an American?
Why leave when nothing has changed as yeti understand if shit was changed to make the site a shit place to be, but it just seems like everyones acting a little childish

by **EFFalcon** » March 21st, 2013, 7:39 am

$350 a month!
holy F

by **TUFED6** » March 21st, 2013, 8:29 am

I know right - and that still wasn't enough cash for them?! Even if they got $10k they would have made that money in a few years assuming ad revenue stayed at the same levels.

Amazingly short sighted, or someones hooked on the shards.

by **nstg8a** » March 22nd, 2013, 8:44 am

I think seano just wanted out, and wanted as much cash out as he could get in one hit.

It was always supposed to be a not for profit set up, any funds raised were uaed to pay costs, pay for banners and stuff. Even the nz rep got sent a xfalcon banner to use at meets/shows.

And people were happy to donate their time to help, now its being run purely for profit, whos gonna want to donate their time now the funds are headed off shore.

Makes me curious to see what aff revenues would be, they seem to be purely run as a business.

And have massive amounts of sponsors and advertising.

by **EFFalcon** » March 22nd, 2013, 9:28 am

I'd love to know AFF's bottom line.

their hosting costs would be high, but other then that... theres a lot of sponsors!

Their staffing costs would be high also.

I imagine they would need a team of special needs carers running around putting corks on everything sharp for their retarded moderators.

by **private9** » March 22nd, 2013, 4:31 pm

I must be missing something, but why the hate just because the owner sold the forum?

by **private9** » March 22nd, 2013, 4:34 pm

EFFalcon wrote:$350 a month!
holy F

Only 2 sponsors on there though - and going by the activity of the forum, that seems pretty damn high! I certainly wouldn't pay it.
Great forum, but does not seem hugely active (enough) to justify those amounts...

by **nstg8a** » March 22nd, 2013, 5:51 pm

Justin, the hate is because it was never really his to sell, it was always a joint ownership deal, was just his name on the domain title.

To be honest I'm stunned it sold for that much, and somewhat dubious about it. One of the other members did some research and worked out it was valued around the 6-7k mark on some flipping website, and it didn't sell on there, so I don't see why someone would pay more.

And unless the new owner plans on charging for access, or upping the merchandise sales or something, then it seems a pretty poor investment idea.

by **private9** » March 22nd, 2013, 7:38 pm

nstg8a wrote:Justin, the hate is because it was never really his to sell, it was always a joint ownership deal, was just his name on the domain title.

To be honest I'm stunned it sold for that much, and somewhat dubious about it. One of the other members did some research and worked out it was valued around the 6-7k mark on some flipping website, and it didn't sell on there, so I don't see why someone would pay more.

And unless the new owner plans on charging for access, or upping the merchandise sales or something, then it seems a pretty poor investment idea.

Yep, now I follow!

by **iCER** » March 22nd, 2013, 9:23 pm

ummmm...lol @ 10k for a forum. forums are more for builds and support where neither need to be live and can be hours/days between posts where people who want to be more social move to facebook groups.

I offered to host AFF for free same as i did offer to John here just cause i like to support the community.

They were saying they have a dedicated server and with the specs they showed it would roughly cost them 200$-300$ a month. Pretty sure they get that back in advertisement as it is. shame all these sites are hosted in .AU. Reason is cause noone offers any decent servers with massive limits and decent bandwidth.

I could host them on a monster server on our 10mbps fibre (dont forget we are an ISP).

by **nstg8a** » March 22nd, 2013, 10:54 pm

Giving icer control of the intrawebs.... What could possibly go wrong

by **justo** » March 13th, 2014, 11:42 pm

i know this is old news but the american that bought it is selling it and at 53 bids it sold for $5,000

by **justo** » March 13th, 2014, 11:44 pm

or 190 a month

by **EFFalcon** » March 14th, 2014, 7:28 am

Hahaha yeah
way to go new owner

by **vegabass** » March 14th, 2014, 8:43 am

From what I know, AFF sponsors pay a fair bit PA to be on there.

It certainly pays for all those before mentioned "corks"

by **Rollin** » March 14th, 2014, 7:17 pm

The way aff protects is sponsors they would have to be paying top dollar.

If you mention a non-sponsor in anything other than a negative light (or speak ill of a sponsor) you get the banstick.

I absolutely fucking love boosted because we don't cater to the lowest common denominator.

by **nstg8a** » March 14th, 2014, 8:38 pm

And it appears xfalcon has been nuked.

There was supposed to be a changeover to an aussie based server with the new owner, since then xfalcon is goneski.

5k is a lot of money to blow on a forum lol

by **MAD** » March 14th, 2014, 10:14 pm

Rollin wrote:If you mention a non-sponsor in anything other than a negative light (or speak ill of a sponsor) you get the banstick.

I've never seen that. I've never been given a warning for calling out sponsors when they make a "the best" claim without factual evidence.
I loathe marketing spin and always call BS whenever an opportunity presents itself.

The only warning I've been given over there was for saying I wished there was a myxomatosis that targeted the 'extremist' gene.
Apparently that's not on as I was barracking for chemical weapons. :cray:

by **nstg8a** » March 16th, 2014, 1:37 pm

Xfalcon is live again

by **Falcon12345** » March 27th, 2014, 5:34 am

justo wrote:i know this is old news but the american that bought it is selling it and at 53 bids it sold for $5,000

Any idea what the Americans bought it for in the first place?

by **Commando** » March 27th, 2014, 7:52 am

Any idea what the Americans bought it for in the first place?

$10k+ as per viewtopic.php?f=2&t=27535&p=522552#p494652

But really a box of door handles would've sufficed.

by **Falcon12345** » March 27th, 2014, 8:30 am

Commando wrote:
Any idea what the Americans bought it for in the first place?

$10k+ as per viewtopic.php?f=2&t=27535&p=522552#p494652

But really a box of door handles would've sufficed.

Oops, missed that one, my bad.

That's quite an embarrassing loss for them there then! I can't see why that would make any sense at that price anyway in the first place!

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