E-Series wub V's Import thud

[Dansedgli]

psst John. Your EF doesnt look mildly modified.

[Malakai]

I'd love an FG G6ET, but can't justify $50k on a car.
spending $1000 here and there on making my car my own is much more rewarding.

but hey, i'm not like a lot of people who plan on selling their cars in 6months time.

losing $25k over a 3 year period is more of a headache then fixing niggling car issues.

My thoughts exactly! I couldn't have said it better myself.

[AaronEF8]

I would buy a train which I could also afford.

ROFL. Best post ever.

I'd love a factory XR6T as well. But after paying a premium for my EF then watch them drop to be worth next to nothing, I'd rather not buy another newish car that I plan to modify. I'd get a VW Mark V Golf GT Sport TDi and sell it in 2 years instead.

Don't believe what you read on AFF all the time either. BA's aren't all that bulletproof, they have more than their fair share of troubles. Problem is, they still cost a lot to fix, you can go to a wrecker or look on here for E-Series parts nowdays. Failing drivelines is certainly not an E-Series only problem. And it's a problem on E-Series because people think a HD clutch equipped T5/BTR with no cooler will take 200+rwkw for a decent length of time.

Not knocking new cars, I've just been there, done that and learnt it's a waste of money to buy one, modify it then sell it later on. If you get your jollies over family members going 'ooh nice car' then a new car will suit you nicely.

Imports aren't on my radar these days, the local cops HATE them, and hitting a roo then watching it slide up the bonnet into my face doesn't appeal to me much.

Get a job with a company XR6T, edit it and bob's your grandmothers son.

[EFFalcon]

psst John. Your EF doesnt look mildly modified.

true, it looks mildly shit

but honestly, what would you call it?

externally it looks like an EF Fairmont slammed on 18's with custom plates.

[Gozza]

I couldn't give a fck for your love of E-Series, or what you can and can't afford on dealer mechanics wages.

I'm not dissing the beloved E-Series, just your intelligence.

get a dose up ya.

You should be thanking me anyway, I'm the only one thats calling you out on your bullsht cause everyone else is too busy trying to kiss your arse.

Tall poppy syndrome eh - ? Jealous Steady ? would you like your ass to be kissed

ps Dosing is fucking gay

[Sunboost]

The reason why there are so many cars on today's new car market is because everyone's taste varies to a high degree. It's the same reason we all own Falcons but modify them to suit our tastes.

As for this fread, just buy whatever the fck u like.

[Dansedgli]

psst John. Your EF doesnt look mildly modified.

true, it looks mildly shit

but honestly, what would you call it?

externally it looks like an EF Fairmont slammed on 18's with custom plates.

Not to mention the bodykit. It looks highly modified. Not mildy modified.

I am also surprised that you havent been pulled over yet.

But then again cops dont look at my maverick either. Thats the benefit of not driving an import.

[EFFalcon]

bodykit hasnt been on the car for mooooooooonths

but in all honesty, everyone knows there are a selection of cars that will always get picked in a carpark.
commodores and imports top the list.

4wd's are probbaly closer to the bottom
falcon's somewhere in the middle

the important part is, WHEN you get pulled over in an import, the turbo gear isnt something they sting you for, its the small easier to fix shit

[Steady]

I couldn't give a fck for your love of E-Series, or what you can and can't afford on dealer mechanics wages.

I'm not dissing the beloved E-Series, just your intelligence.

get a dose up ya.

You should be thanking me anyway, I'm the only one thats calling you out on your bullsht cause everyone else is too busy trying to kiss your arse.

Tall poppy syndrome eh - ? Jealous Steady ? would you like your ass to be kissed

ps Dosing is fucking gay

If you're gonna be the one that's doing the kissing I'm sure we could figure something out.

But actually no, if I talk bullshit, I'd hope people would call me out on it.
I'd rather be wrong and know it then think I'm right and be wrong.

[EFFalcon]

Turbo > No turbo
why argue for?

[Dansedgli]

For serial, my laptop screen ftl. I thought the kit was on in the Philip Island picture I saw.

[EFFalcon]

hahahaha
nah the car was kitless at PI.

[EF ECTIV]

Ive got my turbo eseries.... Fully roadworthy (emissions and all) and engineered.... No probs....

Id never go down the import path myself, just not my scene.... Good luck to those who do though.....

Each to their own... horses for courses.....

[Bipolar]

I don't get pulled over, but ever since OED666 got fisted a few weeks ago I've been bloody paranoid about even giving her a stab here and there. Would you Melbournians agree a wing would attract more attention than just a kit?

[Gozza]

LOL Bipolar - if anything you'll get pulled over and court ordered to take it off

[Rollin]

I couldn't give a fck for your love of E-Series, or what you can and can't afford on dealer mechanics wages.
Just don't speak bullshit like built SR20s costing twice as much as a built 4L, it makes you look(?) like an idiot.
You'll notice in that post I never called E-Series crap, so relax guy, I'm not dissing the beloved E-Series, just your intelligence.
Take a chill pill, build a bridge, get a dose up ya.

You should be thanking me anyway, I'm the only one thats calling you out on your bullsht cause everyone else is too busy trying to kiss your arse.

I see nobody in this thread kissing my ass?

Basicaly, you read one line in my initial 5 paragraph post and thought "OOHHH!!! OMFG!!! Rollin is wrong, now is my time TO SHINE!!!!!" then 'called me out' because one line of that initial post was wrong, (which I then amended/retracted in my second post after doing some of my own research, rather than just referring to a PM from a guy I was talking to on nissansilvia.com with a 320rwhp S15).

You completely ignored my first and last lines:

"I agree with private9 - My ex has an S15, it is pretty impressive in that it handles and stops well (for a stock car)"

(which I thought was very complementary, as there are few stock cars which have impressed me in the handling department, and if anything I did a pit of Private9 ass kissing myself, rather than the other way around.)

"I guess it really just depends on what you want though - you'll never get a falcon to turn corners as well as a 180 mod for mod, but in a straight line, with twice the capacity and a tuff base engine teh Falc is teh pwnage."

Is that a biased opinion do you think, or would you consider it fact?

You pretty much jumped the gun (something your gf tells me you do quite often) skimmed through my post and failed to read or comprehend my post in nearly any way shape or form.

Maaatt Damon.

P.S. Dan - I noticed last night that TUFED6 seems to have dropped off the face of the earth recently....do you know what the go is? He seemed well keen to get his car back to the track after it shit itself in december, but no updates since then...

[Dansedgli]

He got his s13 on the road and gives no fark for the 4 litre anymore

[Gozza]

well i guess 1 can only stay in the closet for so long

[Steady]

I couldn't give a fck for your love of E-Series, or what you can and can't afford on dealer mechanics wages.
Just don't speak bullshit like built SR20s costing twice as much as a built 4L, it makes you look(?) like an idiot.
You'll notice in that post I never called E-Series crap, so relax guy, I'm not dissing the beloved E-Series, just your intelligence.
Take a chill pill, build a bridge, get a dose up ya.

You should be thanking me anyway, I'm the only one thats calling you out on your bullsht cause everyone else is too busy trying to kiss your arse.

Basicaly, you read one line in my initial 5 paragraph post and thought "OOHHH!!! OMFG!!! Rollin is wrong, now is my time TO SHINE!!!!!" then 'called me out' because one line of that initial post was wrong, (which I then amended/retracted in my second post after doing some of my own research, rather than just referring to a PM from a guy I was talking to on nissansilvia.com with a 320rwhp S15).

This is correct, I took the part of your post that WAS bullsht, and singled that out for my vicous attack.
I didn't feel it necessary to attack the bits that weren't bullsht, cause that would have just been spiteful.
I did not attack your car, I did not attack your prowess in the bedroom (I don't think that needs attacking, you seem to post quite regularly that you don't get any?).

I just take umbrage to this comment...

Shove your F6 up your ass you fuckwit.

That made me a saaad panda.
What has my F6 ever done to you?
Who here really has the tall poppy syndrome?
I don't know by the way, I'm just asking.
Players at home can answer that themselves.

Now I'm pissed off though, I didn't get paid for this fcking post, and the soup I was eating has gone cold cause I was trying not to spill it on the fcken keyboard.
Arsehole.

[dcstraight]

Cookie Jared ?

[pHaT`eL]

F6 FTW..

[93edxr6]

Rollins turbo FTW


but yes


f6's rock

[EL XR8]

It's alright Jared, we can't compete mate.
Your F6 and anyone elses 'car', whatever it is, cannot even come close to a modified 4L E series.
I reckon there's more people on here that would want a new car over some fucking E Series Falcon!
Hmm, jealous much?


Is there something in the water up there in banana land, that makes every response either:
a) fucking homosexually related. Very inventive Gozza!
b) A personal insult for no real reason.

Now I bet they wouldn't be so forthcoming if they were in person, now would they. Its like the big bad internet playing bodyguard for tools.

[Fairmont888]

this thread is now about as useful as flogging a dead horse.

[Rollin]

I reckon - people totally missing the point FTL.

[Gozza]

Now I bet they wouldn't be so forthcoming if they were in person, now would they. Its like the big bad internet playing bodyguard for tools.

Hmm - in saying that you are proving your own point - well done

I like to think along the same lines - wow we have somthing in common - but refer above - its pointless

If your in QLD and ever want to catch up for tea and crumpets - PM me and ill forward my details

[Fairmont888]

If your in QLD and ever want to catch up for tea and crumpets - PM me and ill forward my details

last i heard he had moved to the gold coast and isnt far from me, having said that i dont have a problem with anyone

[OED666]

Well i could easily afford a BA/BF XR6T etc... I have driven my in-law's XR6T alot over the 2 1/2 years they had it... Sure, it was quick and had the looks, but the driving position, and overall feel when driving wasnt quite as nice. They replaced the XR6T with a VE SV6.. I have to say it slightly feels better on the road handling then the XR6T, and probably better than mine, but it doesnt have the visibility and also driving position that i like.

I also have a Mazda SP23, and its a great car, but doesnt have the go fast that i require. Previous to owning the Mazda I also had a Barina, and I could throw that thing in its standard form through round-abouts faster than my car.

Until another car comes out that i am comfortable in, box car it is.

[AaronEF8]

An SV6 'probably' handles better than yours? VE SV6's are one of the best handling Australian cars ever made, as much as I hate to say it. Gun rear suspension, brilliant front end with a front mounted rack, and big dollar tyres designed for the car. Not saying they're a great car, but they do handle well.

[edit] If you spent 6 months straight in one, you would be comfortable with it too.

[OED666]

it might handle better sure, but not how i like to drive. rear visibility is shithouse, and they also have a ute, which is even worse. i think the rear window is there for looks. i havent driven a ba/bf ute, so they could be just as bad.

[Bipolar]

I too can afford any Ford/FPV I want, but the $-value ratio just doesn't stack up. I'd get a new Aussie car not only for the comfort/handling balance, room and straight line stonk, but also coz it keeps someone here in a job so they can put food on their table. And to keep one of the most resourceful car industries in the world kicking on like it deserves to.

Is there something in the water up there in banana land, that makes every response either:
a) fucking homosexually related. Very inventive Gozza!
b) A personal insult for no real reason.

No-one's answered my random and off topic question.

















lol

[Rollin]

An SV6 'probably' handles better than yours? VE SV6's are one of the best handling Australian cars ever made, as much as I hate to say it. Gun rear suspension, brilliant front end with a front mounted rack, and big dollar tyres designed for the car. Not saying they're a great car, but they do handle well.

Are you saying that because you have driven one and agree, or because Motor says so?* The SV6 might be one of the best handling Australian cars ever made** (in it's standard form) but you'd have to have driven OED666s car*** to compare the two, and at the same time, your decision would be based on which car you 'feel' is better, which is entirely subjective.

My car is rock hard and skatey as fcuck. I reckon an SV6 would probably drill it inside out on any kind of technical circuit (ie, not much in the way of straights...or braking areas ) but i'd still prefer to take mine to the track...because it feels better to me...

*Note that I am not disagreeing with you, just asking the question - Don't want to get Steady or EL XR8 all upset by letting them think I'm stepping on your toes too.

**It does have a very good ride, and the weighting of the steering feels quite nice, brakes clearly shit on e-series ones. Front suspension is very clever, rear is a massive PITA to work on but seems to deliver better tyre wear than the previous horrific setup, provided the top arms are positioned correctly when being assembled...

***OEDs car does need a little more in the way of front spring rate and more shock all round to be perfect, in my humble opinion.

[oneredED]

Fukk yeah this forum is going off lately! Thanks for reviving my love of internet forum wars, much appreciated.

Sick 'em kunts

I'd get involved but I bought a sucky euro POS so I have no leg to stand on...

[AaronEF8]

Are you saying that because you have driven one and agree, or because Motor says so?* The SV6 might be one of the best handling Australian cars ever made** (in it's standard form) but you'd have to have driven OED666s car*** to compare the two, and at the same time, your decision would be based on which car you 'feel' is better, which is entirely subjective.

Motor have said good about the handling? Honestly I skip past SV6 comparos. I'm saying that because I have driven lots of SV6's, and not just around the block either. I haven't driven OED666's car no, but I'm fairly sure it has the stock upper rear control arms, stock watts link mounting locations, stock radius rods, stock upper front wishbones and a stock power stering rack. Standard they're all pretty average, and no spring/shock/swaybar combo will totally fix this.

All in all though, anyone who is a sensible driver will only go as fast as they feel comfortable, IIRC it took me at least 6 months to be comfortable enough in my EF to start driving it hard. And to me, driving fast-ish on the road is more about fun and control, rather than outright cornering speed. Anything can corner hard enough to lose your licence, but where's the fun if you just need to turn the wheel a bit to do it. Track work is a different story, and I'd say an SV6 would be pretty damn boring..

Off-topic for a minute, whats this about the upper arm positioning on VE's? We got some VE's that killed tyres in under 10,000km, and others that lasted 50,000 at my old work. Never did work out why, and everyone else there will be too busy walking into walls and shit to work it out now.

Oh yeah, and you can only buy specially designed Turanza's for most VE's, doubles the cost of buying tyres, if anyones thinking about a VE.

Don't worry about stepping on my toes, I wear steel-caps

[Rollin]

The way you wrote that sentence looked like it could have been cut and pasted from a Motor article

Yeah VE tyres are pricey as fcuck - higher load rating and taller sidewalls. I actually priced a rear tyre to suit a VE clubby when they came out, IIRC it was a touch over 1k. Just for 1 tyre. Ouch. Cheaper to buy the 20x9.5" factory rim it was mounted to....

The rear mount (or "P bracket"as they call it) bolt holes for the rear upper arm on VEs are slightly slotted to aid in assembly at factory. If the 'P bracket' bolts are tightened when the bracket is closer to the center of the car it results in excessive toe change as the wheel moves through its travel, which flogs out the tyres.

The fix is to loosen the bolts half a turn and lever the P brackets as far outward as they will go, before tightening the bolts motherfukka tight again.

[Nikk O'lass]

Shitz this thread has turned into WOW...as much as i love my ED, fuel prices + the want of a turbo car + needing an easy car to work on points towards a 180, plus they look awsome. Iv'e talked to a car yard, he is going to look aroud, and there is noe for sale in town, its lived a hard life but and has a big price on it...

...i can still see my self owning a E-series later on in life!

I just feel bad about selling my car after working on it, i wish i could keep it...

...who knows

[EL XR8]

If you're after a 180, don't just look around your town.
Whenever i've bought cars, i'll look almost anywhere to get one.
I got mine from Sydney, my old man got his from Bathurst, and we lived in Melb at the time.