Poll : The drag racing issue? Whats your view?

by **SnyperEB** » June 5th, 2009, 12:55 pm

The issue is and it came up in yesterday's wild thread.

Spooling up your car on the line after the light has already turned green.
Personally I dont agree and dont believe it is a true 10ET.

Sure enough spooling up before it turns green but still sitting there after it has turned green I dont believe its a true time.

Sorry Max and Steady I know your going to be upset. xx

by **-jjM-** » June 5th, 2009, 1:02 pm

with people like commando around, ill keep my mums name off the forums....

edit: dammit shaun you cant just go changing stuff like that, regardless ill leave my previous reply up there....as a warning...

by **needfordspeed** » June 5th, 2009, 1:13 pm

No point building a 10sec turbo car if it can't spool off the line, i'm sure most of them would need to.

If it comes up on the board as a 10 sec pass it's a 10 sec pass.

by **Steady** » June 5th, 2009, 1:14 pm

Thats okay, I don't think your car makes 230rwkw

Make a poll.

by **ClassicAU** » June 5th, 2009, 1:18 pm

T2TE50?

by **Bipolar** » June 5th, 2009, 1:21 pm

Steady wrote:Make a poll.

plus juan

I guess you could say that you're car can go 10 seconds down the quarter, but can't get a proper 10 second ET. That'd cover both bases.

by **SnyperEB** » June 5th, 2009, 1:22 pm

Steady wrote:Thats okay, I don't think your car makes 230rwkw

Make a poll.

Oh thats a bit harsh Jared.

I dont know how to make a poll.

by **Steady** » June 5th, 2009, 1:31 pm

haha it's not an insult where I come from, I don't think the Sprint had the 151 that it pulled at Dynomotive.
I don't put much stock in anyones dyno figure.

Theres a 'Poll' tab down the bottom when you make a new thread.

Bipolar wrote:I guess you could say that you're car can go 10 seconds down the quarter, but can't get a proper 10 second ET. That'd cover both bases.

Thats a copout

Don't be so diplomatic!

by **67rce** » June 5th, 2009, 1:39 pm

Bipolar wrote:
Steady wrote:Make a poll.
plus juan

I guess you could say that you're car can go 10 seconds down the quarter, but can't get a proper 10 second ET. That'd cover both bases.

And that is exactly my thoughts, i probably should have said it that way last night

by **SnyperEB** » June 5th, 2009, 1:40 pm

needfordspeed wrote:No point building a 10sec turbo car if it can't spool off the line, i'm sure most of them would need to.

If it comes up on the board as a 10 sec pass it's a 10 sec pass.

Im all for spooling on the line thats cool just going when the light turns green not waiting.

by **Allen** » June 5th, 2009, 1:42 pm

Just do a really quick skid, stage straight away and start spooling up whilst the other guy is still doing his burnout... Should be plenty of time to spool up fully before the last amber light, if you do it this way.

If you are on street tyres you shouldn't really need to do a skid anyway, just roll through the water box, and give it a quick stab to dry them off.

Sitting in front of a green christmas tree spooling takes the fun away from racing... although technically it would still be a 10 sec pass if you don't break the staging beam, it ruins the spectical of racing as both cars don't race each other, they are racing timeslips...

by **Bipolar** » June 5th, 2009, 1:47 pm

Agreed. People pay money to watch this shit.

by **Dansedgli** » June 5th, 2009, 1:56 pm

15 seconds of spool time for 10's is gay.

For 8's its fine.

by **SnyperEB** » June 5th, 2009, 2:02 pm

Dansedgli wrote:15 seconds of spool time for 10's is gay.

For 8's its fine.

Ill second that!!!

by **Steady** » June 5th, 2009, 2:23 pm

Allen wrote:Sitting in front of a green christmas tree spooling takes the fun away from racing... although technically it would still be a 10 sec pass if you don't break the staging beam, it ruins the spectical of racing as both cars don't race each other, they are racing timeslips...

So don't go to test and tunes, go to see bracket or heads up racing LOL

We are talking about a 10 second pass being a 10 second pass, regardless of how long it takes you to build boost/get it up on the transbrake/get it into gear/finish masturbating.
I don't give a fukk if you kunts think it's boring watching a car build boost, the question isn't "is building boost boring"?!

This forum is starting to feel like streetcommodores.

by **SnyperEB** » June 5th, 2009, 2:30 pm

Steady wrote:
Allen wrote:Sitting in front of a green christmas tree spooling takes the fun away from racing... although technically it would still be a 10 sec pass if you don't break the staging beam, it ruins the spectical of racing as both cars don't race each other, they are racing timeslips...

So don't go to test and tunes, go to see bracket or heads up racing LOL

We are talking about a 10 second pass being a 10 second pass, regardless of how long it takes you to build boost/get it up on the transbrake/get it into gear/finish masturbating.
I don't give a fukk if you kunts think it's boring watching a car build boost, the question isn't "is building boost boring"?!

This forum is starting to feel like streetcommodores.

by **someLS1** » June 5th, 2009, 3:25 pm

cbf adding to the awesomeness

by **oneredED** » June 5th, 2009, 3:45 pm

It's a 10 second ET right, meaning "elapsed time" ? So like it or not, no matter how you achieve it, a 10 second ET is 10 seconds... BUT I still think it's gay as all ****. Seriously, isn't it all about "racing"? The point of a "fast car" that wouldn't be fast at all from A to B if it was to race from a "3-2-1-GO", is fairly homo.

It should be like this; GO on green... Antilag manual launches FTW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7QeykXmNHU
OR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfi-kb9S2s

by **justa6** » June 5th, 2009, 10:35 pm

i think it's a 10, all depend's what your trying to do, beat the joker next to you or get the best et you can.

by **bentls** » June 5th, 2009, 10:39 pm

whats the difference between spooling it before the green and after.... spooling a turbo off the line is a part of racing.. dont like it then leave.

same argument na people say "wahh i lost cos he has a turbo"

i dont often agree with steady but this time i do lol

by **komprezzor** » June 5th, 2009, 10:45 pm

If you cover the distance of the quarter in 10 seconds, you just did a 10 second quarter. End.

by **james88** » June 5th, 2009, 11:20 pm

If started from green. Reaction times would play a big part could change it from a 10.9 to a 11 or higher. But I think if someone says they have done a ten second it is from the point they leave the line till the point they cross the line shouldn't matter what the lights are doing.

by **krisisdog** » June 5th, 2009, 11:33 pm

bentls wrote:
same argument na people say "wahh i lost cos he has a turbo"

Only fuktards would even think thats an excuse for losing a drag. "Oh shit I lost because he has 200hp more than me! wahh!"

My opinion on the topic, the car is a 10 second car as its measured from when it crosses the start line to when it crosses the finish line.
Therefore the car is capable of a 10sec pass at the quarter.
However, on the street, it would probably get whooped by 12, or even low 13 second cars.
But its still done a 10sec quarter.

by **Hiboost** » June 6th, 2009, 12:30 am

When people go to FRIDAY night drags they go out to have FUN and to get a DECENT time. BUT when competing once the light Goes GREEN THEN U GO otherwise U LOOSE. That’s why MOST OF the BIG BOYS USE NOS to get the boost quicker on the converter, and leave the line once its green... at the end of the day a 10 sec pass is 10sec no matter what...

by **LTDHO** » June 6th, 2009, 10:48 am

IF you are racing 'head to head' then it fine as the other car will win. lol

IMO - spool up for and get shit R/T is entirely up to the driver, as long as they get the ET they want. It's not cheating if you are aiming for a best ET.

I'd race a 10sec car for 'pink slips' if they want to spool for 10 sec's, that will give me 20 sec in the XR to cross the finish line.
(Shit I hope it can do it in 19.99 lol)

by **Malakai** » June 6th, 2009, 11:06 am

I voted yes.

Does anyone have any links to examples of a long spool time before the run? I looked the other day because I think it is shit hot to watch and I've been looking just now and I still can't find any. :-(

I have seen 6BOOST's blue panel van do it at Willowbank in person and it is sooo good to watch.

by **dcstraight** » June 6th, 2009, 1:12 pm

Yep I agree-gree with Steady - a 10 sec pass is a 10 sec pass.

As it was said - if you get through your staging nice and quick (heck I go around it and wait at the Christmas tree most times!) then you *should* have ample time to start spooling and get your junk together.

If you're on the highway and the light goes green and you're still sitting there...then yeah - you look like arse.

by **bentls** » June 6th, 2009, 1:37 pm

lol how long does it take people to spool... takes like 2-3 seconds in my car to build some boost on the spot

by **wolf** » June 6th, 2009, 2:00 pm

if time slip says 10 secs its 10 secs

by **oneredED** » June 6th, 2009, 5:32 pm

Malakai wrote:I voted yes.

Does anyone have any links to examples of a long spool time before the run? I looked the other day because I think it is shit hot to watch and I've been looking just now and I still can't find any.

I have seen 6BOOST's blue panel van do it at Willowbank in person and it is sooo good to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFfZDcoF5Ng

Note how the other car has already finished by the time the VL starts LOL. Sick VL though.

by **justa6** » June 6th, 2009, 7:26 pm

holy fucken horse shit.

by **krisisdog** » June 6th, 2009, 8:31 pm

IMHO, watching that VL was shithouse. thats 30 seconds do run a 10.

Heres a 10 sec pass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK79quQY5BM

Even though I voted a 10sec is a 10 sec, that run is how I think a 10 sec pass should be done.

by **Dumpsta** » June 6th, 2009, 9:53 pm

Speaking as the audience, not as a bloke that has ever put a car down the strip... not saying spooling is right or wrong but Imo a good drag is when both cars launch at the same time... that VL for example... fricken awesome car and no doubt quicker.. but in the end he still lost the the race from A to B and well... I reckon thats what its all about. Go on green and still beat that clown... . As its already been stated.. 10 seconds ET is 10 seconds no matter what but it takes the fun out of dragracing. Difference is.. 'My car can do faster times then yours' or 'I can beat you to that white line over there'. :scratch:

Huh..Sounds the same but obviously theres a difference.

by **iceman** » June 7th, 2009, 1:08 am

i would agree that its a true 10sec ( 1/4 mile drag car ) however its far from being a 10sec (street car )

wow with that much spool time why bother!!!, **** even i would convert to supercharger if thats what it takes lol

by **iceman** » June 7th, 2009, 1:21 am

just a thought, how would this claimed 230rwkw go againts this 10 sec car on the track ( both launching at the green light? )

would be interesting to see what times these cars get if this was the case? not taking sides as i am no expert as i have NEVER raced 1/4 street/track just some thoughts from you guys maybe we can setup one of these big power cars againts a 230rwkw with the rules above

cubic inchs and the big v8 will always rule in my eyes :shock:

by **bentls** » June 7th, 2009, 8:51 am

that vl runs like low 8s.... so cant be compared to 10 second spooling haha.

by **Rollin** » June 7th, 2009, 11:24 am

Spool time is teh gay.

These cars run 7.99 or better with bugger all spool time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEeo6l3a6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZymTLk2a8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1N7hDUV ... re=related

Yes they have enormous engines, but if they spool for 1 second before the green, then an engine half the capacity or a bit under (like a RB30 or 4.0) shouldn't need more than 4 seconds at the most.

I guess it's just the way people race when they go to a test and tune. In QLD pretty much everyone runs the quarter as if it was a set of lights on the street - they practice for reaction time as well as ET/MPH, 99.9% of cars f*ck off as soon as the light goes green, nobody ever sits on the line to get the perfect rpm for launch - if you don't have your shit sorted by the time the light goes green you just launch anyway and learn to get it organised faster for the next run.

Even though ET does obviously count for a lot, we generally consider that the guy that gets the light on the timing board is the one who has 'won' even if it's a 12.00 compared to an 11.00 with a crap RT. 11.00 second car is 'faster' but the 12 second car 'won'.

by **oneredED** » June 7th, 2009, 12:10 pm

Agree with Rollin.

by **Malakai** » June 7th, 2009, 5:14 pm

I can't believe you don't like the long spool time Rollin. I agree with everything you said except that the long spool time is "teh gay".

by **EBTO4Z** » June 7th, 2009, 6:52 pm

Bracket racing time starts once the green light on but every week street meets time starts once you break the line. The officials don't give you enough time to stall up once your stage, that's why for me i like to be the first one to stage so i have enough time to stall up. If you leave on the green and haven't stalled, you wont do as good E.T, if you stalled up after the green light same ppl will stay its not a true 10 second car. It does "REALLY" have nothing to do with spool more with stall, I have 3000 stall i want to use the whole potential of it, To make the best E.T as possible. The higher i stall the better my spool is. If you can do a quick 60ft time, the quicker everything else multiples to make it a faster E.T...

Should you be able to Spool Up after the green has gone.

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