Recommend A Dyno That Straps Down Monsters In Melb?

by **SnyperEB** » October 21st, 2010, 7:18 am

Sundeep wrote:Links to ETstreet and XR6T forum threads ploiz.

http://www.etstreet.com/index.php?/topi ... ntry245892

by **nstg8a** » October 21st, 2010, 7:45 am

SnyperEB wrote:
Sundeep wrote:Links to ETstreet and XR6T forum threads ploiz.

http://www.etstreet.com/index.php?/topi ... ntry245892

linky no work?

#10342 We could not determine which forum this topic is in.

by **NUT347** » October 21st, 2010, 8:01 am

Steady wrote:if i was a workshop owner who had a customer that was a confirmed idiot, and whose car had a massive convertor, i wouldn't waste my time trying to explain to him why the dyno figure is low, because i know that he wouldn't understand and eventually he'd only rag on me via the internet anyway.
i'd just tell him that his car was so powerful that i couldn't even strap it down.

But icer already made 350rwkw on that dyno a few months back.

Dansedgli wrote:How does a car that wheelspins on a Dyno get tuned?

Guesswork?

I would like to hear the answer to this too!

by **SnyperEB** » October 21st, 2010, 9:08 am

nstg8a wrote:
SnyperEB wrote:
Sundeep wrote:Links to ETstreet and XR6T forum threads ploiz.

http://www.etstreet.com/index.php?/topi ... ntry245892

linky no work?

#10342 We could not determine which forum this topic is in.

Wierd.

by **iCER** » October 21st, 2010, 10:03 am

link works fine. sign up to view supporting member section!

by **nstg8a** » October 21st, 2010, 10:07 am

iCER wrote:link works fine. sign up to view supporting member section!

too much effort lol

by **EFFalcon** » October 21st, 2010, 10:09 am

don't you have to sign up and pay money for access to that section?

by **SnyperEB** » October 21st, 2010, 11:37 am

EFFalcon wrote:don't you have to sign up and pay money for access to that section?

Yeah whoops.

by **misk** » October 21st, 2010, 11:40 am

lol i was around when ET street first started and i still havent paid for that section.

by **EFFalcon** » October 21st, 2010, 11:43 am

perhaps because you were there when it first started?

by **LTDHO** » October 21st, 2010, 11:44 am

Many places can tune 350rwkw monsters. They are not rare.

Regardless on whether you want to run a 15 or 9 sec quarter, if you want a dyno print out, get one.

by **[Sterling]** » October 21st, 2010, 12:04 pm

BPR tuned Tristans typhoon with 500hp at the treads no worries.
Maybe your "Monster" is just an R-Tard.

by **iCER** » October 21st, 2010, 2:18 pm

ill repeat myself for you slower people.

the car power output is not the problem. the dyno and tuner is not the problem. He has a 800+hp BA with the same 4sp auto i have (CLINIC 9sec BA). My converter is difference. The convertor is why there is constant wheel spin on how it brings up power.

ill repeat that in 3 more posts again.

by **t1MMy** » October 21st, 2010, 2:24 pm

Soooo the power isn't the problem, but it's how the power is delivered? :scratch:

by **NUT347** » October 21st, 2010, 2:26 pm

iCER wrote:ill repeat myself for you slower people.

the car power output is not the problem. the dyno and tuner is not the problem. He has a 800+hp BA with the same 4sp auto i have (CLINIC 9sec BA). My converter is difference. The convertor is why there is constant wheel spin on how it brings up power.

ill repeat that in 3 more posts again.

Soooooooooo

If you can't get traction on the dyno (with slicks) how the **** are you going to race it?

by **Steady** » October 21st, 2010, 3:48 pm

iCER wrote:ill repeat myself for you slower people.

the car power output is not the problem. the dyno and tuner is not the problem. He has a 800+hp BA with the same 4sp auto i have (CLINIC 9sec BA). My converter is difference. The convertor is why there is constant wheel spin on how it brings up power.

ill repeat that in 3 more posts again.

i still reckon it'll be less wheel spin and more convertor slip that's killing your power, but anyway...

the drag radials were probably the worst tyre you could possibly use on the dyno.
you want a hard compound. because you are strapping the car down with so much force, the amount of force on the tyres is way over what they would normally see, and they'll heat up beyond where they make optimal grip. in the case of the ETs, hot enough to melt them.
a harder compound isn't going to heat up as much.
i've heard of **** using light truck tyres before, like a few guys do for burnout comps as well, for basically the same reason.

does your convertor have lockup still? because the other possible trick is to force it to lockup, i guess it'd still be the S7 solenoid in the BA BTRs.
i dunno if that'll break something at that power level though, so keep that in mind :lol:

as for a place that will strap it down hard, find someone that uses a horsepower heroes style hydraulic strapping system.
HPF would have to be one that would?

if all that fails and you are still desperate for a 400+ dyno sheet, buy a T5 conversion and put some cheap brass button clutch with a fuckload of clamp in it. if it doesn't make 400+ then, you aren't making 400+, if you get what i mean.

i reckon you should just give up on dyno figures though. building a car to go quick on the dragstrip and building a car that makes big power on the dyno are two completely different things. look at TRYHRD.

by **Allen** » October 21st, 2010, 4:27 pm

Perhaps try finding a place with a hub dyno?

They do the job for push started speedway cars... They can't use a normal dyno due to not having a clutch.

by **LOW_XR** » October 21st, 2010, 9:05 pm

as it was said but was not answered- if its spinning the wheels on the dyno, how has it been tuned?

and sunny- im pretty sure it was icer talking up his missus. (what a surprise) and i like how he hasnt responded to you about it? :lol:

by **iCER** » October 21st, 2010, 11:22 pm

lol if you want to check out the missus, let her add you to facebook.com/Mizmia

i doubt she will add you.

Tuner said they tune the car by monitoring the air flow meter and tune is nice and safe. As for more details, ask any tuner. Car feels friken tuff as after 120 and kept traction! See how we go on the track next few weeks

ill keep yas posted!

by **Parfrey** » October 21st, 2010, 11:51 pm

with the converter that loose/high will it hurt your 1/4 time or what? won't it make it a prick to launch?

by **67rce** » October 21st, 2010, 11:58 pm

iCER wrote:lol if you want to check out the missus, let her add you to facebook.com/Mizmia i doubt she will add you.

Tuner said they tune the car by monitoring the air flow meter and tune is nice and safe. As for more details, ask any tuner. Car feels friken tuff as after 120 and kept traction! See how we go on the track next few weeks ill keep yas posted!

bahahaha Tuned by monitoring Airflow Meter. iCER, **** you speak some shit, but that is better than all it so far!

by **Rollin** » October 22nd, 2010, 12:41 am

Airflow meter on a car with a MAP sensor? Good job :thumbsup:

Seriously though, I reckon if you got proper (normal) wheels and tyres and went back there now that they would have had a few different cars on the dyno you'd probably have more success.

I reckon the et streets you had melted a little onto the dyno rollers which would have made them slippery, so they just would have needed a few cars (or some brake clean, scrubbing brushes, rags and a lot of effort) to 'rub' the soft rubber off. Should be good now.

by **iliov** » October 22nd, 2010, 2:42 am

i added ur gf

by **wicksy** » October 22nd, 2010, 4:50 am

I will add her aswell

by **LTDHO** » October 22nd, 2010, 7:07 am

If a dyno can not handle the convertor, then you will have to do it the drag racers way, on the track!

by **iCER** » October 22nd, 2010, 10:02 am

if you people read the 1st post carefully, you can see i said we put stock 17" xr6 rims and tyres on and same output.

Got car back. shitmyself from 120+ onwards. heaps of change top end, and off the line. mid range still the same. cant wait to give it a crack at heathcote shortly! Will keep yas posted. Else, see yas on the hwy tonight

by **superhuS!** » October 22nd, 2010, 10:28 am

iliov wrote:i added ur gf

post of the century!

by **SnyperEB** » October 22nd, 2010, 10:29 am

iliov wrote:i added ur gf

Did she accept though?

by **nstg8a** » October 22nd, 2010, 12:29 pm

she looks all right to me.... if its her posing in front of the 'z' car...

by **EFFalcon** » October 22nd, 2010, 12:37 pm

Hey icer, have you got any photos of ur old EF?

by **ELXR_96** » October 22nd, 2010, 12:49 pm

really is amazing this thread has gone as far as it has

by **iCER** » October 22nd, 2010, 4:25 pm

my old ef was almost stocker why would i have photos

rims, lowered, zorst + ebay chip, resprsyed.then bough the in like 2003 and ef became a daily run around.

and yes, that is my missus posing infront of the blue zx. its hers. 310rwkw

by **Dansedgli** » October 22nd, 2010, 4:39 pm

What turbo mods did you do? Gt42?

by **NUT347** » October 22nd, 2010, 4:52 pm

Someone post the pic here ffs.

by **holmsy** » October 22nd, 2010, 5:01 pm

by **NUT347** » October 22nd, 2010, 5:03 pm

I'll rail that.

But that's not his mrs.

by **Steady** » October 22nd, 2010, 5:12 pm

you willing to put your life on that?

by **Rollin** » October 22nd, 2010, 6:18 pm

iCER wrote:if you people read the 1st post carefully, you can see i said we put stock 17" xr6 rims and tyres on and same output.

Got car back. shitmyself from 120+ onwards. heaps of change top end, and off the line. mid range still the same. cant wait to give it a crack at heathcote shortly! Will keep yas posted. Else, see yas on the hwy tonight

If you read my above post carefully, you'll notice I supplied a possible reason why you still couldn't get it to stick when you put 17s on it.

by **NUT347** » October 22nd, 2010, 6:53 pm

Steady wrote:you willing to put your life on that?

Your kidding right?

by **wicksy** » October 22nd, 2010, 8:03 pm

Haha I'd give her a length