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in regards to high level brake lights, are they required?

ie, on a supra, if the center/high level light was deleted from the hatch (taken out, filled, painted), would that be legal?

i could be wrong, but im pretty sure there has to be a centre brake light, if the globe was out it would probs be considered un roadworthy

stav50 wrote:i could be wrong, but im pretty sure there has to be a centre brake light, if the globe was out it would probs be considered un roadworthy

need linky to ADR or something...

By the sounds of it its gonna make it difficult to get rid of my rear hatch to make way for stock spoiler goodness...

meh i dont have one. i took off my spoiler then put a ba gt parcel shelf in.

its probably one of those things you will never ever be picked up about... until the day your rear ended and the insurance assessor noticed you have deleted a hi-stop brake light. instant fail.

LOW_XR wrote:meh i dont have one. i took off my spoiler then put a ba gt parcel shelf in.

Yeah I remember speaking to bentley about it, he reckons that if you have the light there, it has to work, but if you dont have the light, then it doesnt matter.

mines gone completely as well, but wondering if its actually legal or not.

nstg8a wrote:its probably one of those things you will never ever be picked up about... until the day your rear ended and the insurance assessor noticed you have deleted a hi-stop brake light. instant fail.

blah blah blah

is it actually legal or illegal?

Links to ADR's and/or NCOP's people.

pretty sure you need one. just take your car to the cop shop glen and show them , and ask if it leagal hahaha.

by australia adr laws, there must be an eye level brake light.

glenneaux wrote:

nstg8a wrote:its probably one of those things you will never ever be picked up about... until the day your rear ended and the insurance assessor noticed you have deleted a hi-stop brake light. instant fail.

blah blah blah

is it actually legal or illegal?

Links to ADR's and/or NCOP's people.

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legisla ... ADR+60-00+[FINAL+FRLI].pdf

Only un roadworthy if there is no globe but provisions for one. Cos hole is gone snip the loom and it's legal. It's also unroadworthy to have one in body and on a spoiler (4 in total)

LOW_XR wrote:pretty sure you need one. just take your car to the cop shop glen and show them , and ask if it leagal hahaha.

sure thing dylan, we can go for a 2 for 1 deal

nstg8a wrote:

glenneaux wrote:

nstg8a wrote:its probably one of those things you will never ever be picked up about... until the day your rear ended and the insurance assessor noticed you have deleted a hi-stop brake light. instant fail.

blah blah blah

is it actually legal or illegal?

Links to ADR's and/or NCOP's people.

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legisla ... ADR+60-00+[FINAL+FRLI].pdf

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Bentley?

They wont pick up on it as missing anyway. The hole is filled well. A rwc mechanic / cop isnt going to remember any fast and furious scenes or know enough about supras to know its missing.

Falcons got the middle brake light in EA series 2 from memory, so its been a law since about then.

ive been picked up on it 3 times when i have gone to get a roadie after getting a major canarie. they do look for them and vicroads is being quite harsh on roady worthy licenced testers now.

the eye level brake light is needed. one guy i know has been done for not having one

i hate cars that dont have a working high-mount brake light.

but if your going to delete it, hold SHIFT at the same time, so you permanently delete it, and doesnt go in the recycle bin.

my road worthy guy at work said theres nothing wrong with not having one... what if u take a spoiler off a gt.... how do you put one in? also what about ba/bf/fg utes..... no eye level brake light from factory.

my el xr6 had a soiler so the light on the parcel shelf was never connected. took the spolier off and had it roadworthied. they didnt pick up about the light

OED666 wrote:i hate cars that dont have a working high-mount brake light.

but if your going to delete it, hold SHIFT at the same time, so you permanently delete it, and doesnt go in the recycle bin.

what about if theres not one there at all??

in the supra the high mount brake light is in the back of the hatch, mines been taking out, filled and sprayed.

doesn't look like it ever had one.

glenneaux wrote:

OED666 wrote:i hate cars that dont have a working high-mount brake light.

but if your going to delete it, hold SHIFT at the same time, so you permanently delete it, and doesnt go in the recycle bin.

what about if theres not one there at all??

in the supra the high mount brake light is in the back of the hatch, mines been taking out, filled and sprayed.

doesn't look like it ever had one.

thats road worthy... if it has a red reflector and the fitting and wiring for one and theres no globe or the globe is blown then its unroadworthy... thats what the roady guys at my work all said...

OED666 wrote:i hate cars that dont have a working high-mount brake light.

but if your going to delete it, hold SHIFT at the same time, so you permanently delete it, and doesnt go in the recycle bin.

haha i hate sending deleted items to the recycle bin. SHIFT+DELETE is where its at

ps your a homo. Remember buying a globe for my high mount on the way home from port? ocd hehe...im taking it out right now

You fucken knob

I got pulled over the other week n got a minor, seat belt didn't retract quick enough, bonnect release cable was hanging down and the rear brake light (parcel shelf) wasn't working...Spoke to vic roads and they said if it came with the car factory it has to work..

Seat belt didn't retract quick enough? WTF. I'm fucked if I can find anywhere in the RWC rules that state x amount of cm/second retraction requirements for a seat belt. The cop must have been a full on Nazi, or you must have been a massive kunt to him.

If the car was fitted with an eye level brake light from factory it would have been fitted to make the vehicle comply with ADRs.

If you remove it, the vehicle no longer complies with ADRs, so you may be dicked by the cops. You may have someone run up your ass, and then you may be dicked by the cops.

I'm unfamiliar with the exact design of the headlining of a supra, but you may be able to fit a roof mounted eye level like a VE? You'll be able to find something to fit it without too much trouble I reckon.

Rollin wrote:Seat belt didn't retract quick enough? WTF. I'm fucked if I can find anywhere in the RWC rules that state x amount of cm/second retraction requirements for a seat belt. The cop must have been a full on Nazi, or you must have been a massive kunt to him.

Victorian cops do seem to check that one a fair bit. They checked it on mine one night when they were giving my car a going over.

bentls wrote:also what about ba/bf/fg utes..... no eye level brake light from factory.

Commercial vehicles have different (lower) safety standards.

Places like Autobarn sell LED 3rd brake lights that are positioned similar to an NF Fairlane (top centre of rear glass) in various sizes. They are discreet and should end the debate once and for all. I'm not aware of any argument in favour of not having one.

bentls wrote:Only un roadworthy if there is no globe but provisions for one. Cos hole is gone snip the loom and it's legal. It's also unroadworthy to have one in body and on a spoiler (4 in total)

what about in the back window? like uve got the brake light in the back window, one on spoiler and two std brake lights? do i have to dis-connect my rear window brake light because i have 4?

Rollin wrote:Seat belt didn't retract quick enough? WTF. I'm fucked if I can find anywhere in the RWC rules that state x amount of cm/second retraction requirements for a seat belt. The cop must have been a full on Nazi, or you must have been a massive kunt to him.

Nah i know that rule, i got done while getting a rwc for that. Had to get a new drivers side seat belt. I was told it has to retract quickly because it cant be loose on your body, like if you lean forward then back and have an accident ull shoot forward before hitting the seat belt. meh its ok they arent that expensive, or you can just give the retracting mechanism a good clean out. my belt was frayed aswell so i had to replace anyway.