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1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 4:19 am
by mooseman
http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums ... 91438.html

Anyone see this? Someone should buy it and fix it up. How do those engines go?

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 5:27 am
by FairmontXR6
Wonder why they went to the trouble of putting a Landcruiser V8 in a Falcon?? :blink:

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 6:08 am
by YBHVE4
the 1uz is form soarers and celsiors. i think the landcruiser is 2UZ

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 6:32 am
by Phillis
WHY?! :shock:

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 7:03 am
by private9
Phillis wrote:WHY?! :shock:

Agreed! Go take a stock 1U Soarer for a drive and you'll understand, pretty gutless in standard form.

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 7:15 am
by YBHVE4
private9 wrote:
Phillis wrote:WHY?! :shock:

Agreed! Go take a stock 1U Soarer for a drive and you'll understand, pretty gutless in standard form.


my mate has a 1uz in his celsior and it moves pretty good for a large car.

im also currently putting one in my 4runner

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 7:55 am
by Allen
I remember the build thread for this thing on AFF... Looks like the pics don't work anymore though

http://66.226.77.74/showthread.php?t=26877

I don't know about the 1UZ-FE being gutless... They go better than a HO Windsor! :P
They are a great motor to modify... All alloy quad cam, super tough bottom end etc. They respond very well to boost, and sound fantastic!

$2100 seems pretty reasonable considering the work that has gone into it. Half cuts with the 1UZ go for about that much.

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 8:13 am
by private9
Agreed that they have great potential and very strong, just saying that in standard form they're fairly breathless.

Kinda seems like a waste of time if all you're ever going to do is keep it stock, as the above example looks to be.

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 3:55 pm
by Phillis
private9 wrote:Kinda seems like a waste of time if all you're ever going to do is keep it stock, as the above example looks to be...


...and put it into an EB :scratch:

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 8:28 pm
by private9
Phillis wrote:
private9 wrote:Kinda seems like a waste of time if all you're ever going to do is keep it stock, as the above example looks to be...


...and put it into an EB :scratch:

.....Patiently awaiting some tard to bust out the "but it's unique and it's not a BA" bullshit!

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 9:03 pm
by nstg8a
200kw+ out of a stock 4 litre isnt gutless... plus itl be heaps more reliable, and probably a farkload more economical than either the ford i6 or the windsor 5.0l

gotta remember the soarers and celsiors are luxobarges, they would weigh friggn heaps, esp' compared to a eb.

smart conversion really, plenty of headspace for mods, tons of aftermarket gear, i still wouldnt mind one in my xf, but im leaning more towards a 2jz. just need that lotto win.

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 9:26 pm
by bushman
Nstg8a, a Aristo half cut can be had for pretty cheap, i not to sure on the exact price but around 3-3.5k.
you need the aristo sump as it sits the same as a falcon, where as a supra sump has the deepest part of the sump at the front, the exhaust exits the head on the drivers side of the motor same as what a 4L does and the fuel comes up the passanger side same as a falcon, i have researched this idea.

I know most people here wont agree with me on this but i personally think that a 1j, 2j or 1uz conversion would be a great conversion for a boxcar, like nstg8a said plenty of aftermarket gear and they are strong as an ox from the factory, i'm pretty sure the 1u has a 6 bolt mains too, as well as a wicked exhaust note to boot. while the 1u's may be fairly thirsty in celsiors those luxo barges weigh damn near 2 tonne, my el with me and a full tank of juice 1700kg, 300kg isn't to be sneezed at.

Now please feel free to tell me its a retarded conversion.

And if someone gave me a viper motor yes i would use that instead. lol

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 28th, 2009, 9:29 pm
by Dansedgli
bushman wrote:
you need the aristo sump as it sits the same as a falcon, where as a supra sump has the deepest part of the sump at the front,


Did you make a mistake here? Falcons are front sump.

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 29th, 2009, 7:31 pm
by Nikk O'lass
1UZ would be sick...

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 29th, 2009, 7:46 pm
by SnyperEB
Would be good the fact that its a wagon is the only shit part.

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 29th, 2009, 7:49 pm
by Nikk O'lass
haha...

Good sleeper but...

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 29th, 2009, 7:51 pm
by SnyperEB
If it was a sedan it would be nearly worth grabbing.

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 29th, 2009, 8:38 pm
by bushman
Dansedgli wrote:
bushman wrote:
you need the aristo sump as it sits the same as a falcon, where as a supra sump has the deepest part of the sump at the front,


Did you make a mistake here? Falcons are front sump.

Yeah my bad :oops:

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 29th, 2009, 8:41 pm
by Dansedgli
For $2100 what are the chances of finding a more powerful EB?

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 29th, 2009, 9:00 pm
by nstg8a
Dansedgli wrote:For $2100 what are the chances of finding a more powerful EB?


about the same as finding a white vt commodore owner that knows how to put a hat on....

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 29th, 2009, 9:04 pm
by Nikk O'lass
lol

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 30th, 2009, 9:03 am
by EBT04Z
It would be a great conversion, bottom end is as tough as door nails. The 1UZFE is 3969cc all alloy quad cam found in Crown/Lexus/Celsior/Soarer and the odd Japanese domestic Hi Ace ambulance (I kid you not). They have 2mm thick cast iron cylinder sleeves with six bolt main bearing caps and make around 260 horse/200Kw at the flywheel standard form. They have sintered and forged connecting rods plus a forged steel crank, which probably explains why some people have apparently been getting away with revving them to 9000 rpm on stock internals (for a brief time at least!). They generally look like the one below, which is from a LS400/Celsior and a pic of a standard rod. me and the old man are fitting one one in a RA28 Mustang shape Celica. The 2UZ are iron block and 4.7ltr with vvt as 3UZ went back to alloy block and 4.3ltr and vvt. Bottom end is not as tough as the 1UZ...

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Grout filled block with C.P's, Argo rods and 12mm studs...

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Note in bottom of pic, you can see the 6th bolt for main caps.

CNC heads with Kelford cams H/D valve springs with titanium retainers and shim under bucket...

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Powerglide with trans brake and 9" diff with 40 spindle axles...

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 30th, 2009, 7:10 pm
by Troutman
There were a few similar projects done a few years ago. One involved an NA Fairlane. Pretty good combination despite the effort I always thought; even as stock they are a solid motor. For those who say "why not just buy an LS400" you have to consider overall running costs. You don't see LS400s at Jolly Rogers...

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: October 30th, 2009, 8:32 pm
by Nikk O'lass
That 1uZ Celica will be one awesome care when finished!

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: November 5th, 2009, 6:22 pm
by turbo_nut
i saw a 1 fuzgte put into a eb sedan it hauled arse it was also in boost and zoom magerzines

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: November 8th, 2009, 12:47 am
by SNR
The fuel consumption figures for the 2+ tonne celsior are better than either an i6 or v8 falcon.

I've always thought one of these motors would be the way to go. Being all alloy they only weigh 12kg's more than a Mazda 4 cylinder (BP twin-cam) so there is a benefit in terms of net weight loss (although that may require re-thinking front springs etc?)

I also recall seeing the first start video on one of these forums, either FFAU or FM - of a white EA-D (can't recall if it was a sedan or wagon) with a 1UZ from a guy in QLD - I wonder if this is that car.

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: November 8th, 2009, 4:32 pm
by braad
Have a mate that has a 1uZ in a BMW E30 coupe. Standard with (obviously) custom exhaust. Sounds so tough, quick, and great fuel economy to boot. It has the best of all worlds! Great engine, always wanted to put one into my VN Calais (yeah... a mang machine)

a few hotroders have used them too. Like EBTO4Z said, they're strong as, and being toyota they've been built properly and bulletproof. Actually, i remember a Black RA-25/28 with a 1UZ and simmons almost a decade ago. was bloody hot

it'd be a cheap way of doing a conversion into a decent Boxcar

Re: 1UZ EB wagon?

PostPosted: November 20th, 2009, 7:41 pm
by EBT04Z
heres a motor for good 1uzfe conversion for only $25,000 lol...


http://www.race-cars.com/engsales/other ... 8700ss.htm