apprentice wages

by **jarryddelany** » January 4th, 2010, 10:01 pm

hey, i was wondering what age do adult apprenticeship wages start and how much is.

by **Frost** » January 4th, 2010, 10:14 pm

jarryddelany wrote:hey, i was wondering what age do adult apprenticeship wages start and how much is.

Depends on the apprenticeship, but not before 24, because the government classes you as a youth under 24 if you are an apprentice or at schooling (uni/tafe) and centrelink tops you up.

As for the wages, most start at around $250 per week for first year and it goes up every year about $50, but depends on the profession, but think about 3/4 years of being a tightass gets you a qualification for life.

by **CaRtZ** » January 4th, 2010, 10:51 pm

VICTORIA, light vehicle mechanic: 21 but u have to start the apprenticeship at 21 to count. im halfway through mine, about to turn 21 and i dont get graduated to a mature.

minimum wage for u/21, 1st yr is around $7.60/hr. im 2nd yr on $9.20/hr.

centrelink - if your parents come under the threshold u may qualify for some payments incl rent assistance for out of homers such as myself

by **holmsy** » January 4th, 2010, 10:55 pm

damn **** gettin $250 a week.
glad i got a good apprenticeship

but im pretty sure its 26 or 29 or something for adult apprenticeship

by **rhys** » January 4th, 2010, 11:53 pm

This point is EXACTLY why i left Nissan when i was an apprentice mechanic. I was working 8 am till 5.30 pm for $300 a week.

The worst part was the fully qualified guys there were on $17.80 or something an hour :shock:

Fvck that shit. I am earning that much with no qualification and i get to work in an air conditioned office and have way better perks and more respect. Also Ive got heaps of potential to move up in this job.

Plus half the mechanics there are dumb shits anyway. I asked one of the guys what caused the 'burble' on a certain car that was in (had an after market exhaust) and he said its probably something thats broken :lol:

by **jarryddelany** » January 5th, 2010, 4:52 am

thanks, im looking for an auto elec apprenticeship at the moment no luck as yet.

by **wicksy** » January 5th, 2010, 5:25 am

i know of ppl who are 1st year up here with apprenticeships clearing about $500 a week up here but that is with the mines or with someone like Hastings And Deerings though

by **DaNeOs** » January 5th, 2010, 7:39 am

Diesel Mechanic Apprenticeship Normal 1st year is approx 220$ or so and 4th year 460$ish ( after tax )

Adult starts first year at around 400$ and forth year is 450$ (after tax)

An adult apprenticeship is around about 90% of 4th year wages at the start and only up the slightest.

by **nstg8a** » January 5th, 2010, 10:40 am

fark, how do people survive on that? work two jobs?

by **CaRtZ** » January 5th, 2010, 11:03 am

nstg8a wrote:fark, how do people survive on that? work two jobs?

i spend $20-30/week on food shopping(no-name brand and only essentials), $130/week rent (share house incl. bills), bout $60 on fuel in the 2 rigs (e10 in the sedan), pre paid mobile cost 30 a month. then theres alcohol, out for dinner with mates etc.

centrelink pays 150ish a fortnight, 80 rent assist and the rest youth allowance as im an independant. dunno if it will continue after my 21st tho

auto elec would probably see more $$$ ring up an apprentice agency and ask the minimum wage etc, can't hurt

by **Frost** » January 5th, 2010, 11:44 am

Youth allowance is till your 24 if your enrolled in a educational institution

by **BRADMAN** » January 5th, 2010, 12:26 pm

As far as i knew adult wages were changed to 30+ thanks mr howard

As a 2nd year Sparky i get $10 per hour....which is like $397 take home from memory.

Its shit and it makes it hard to live....but theres nothing you can do about it.....well in my industry you can choose industrial which will double or tripple your age, but good old domestic like me get the worst jobs and the worst money

payback is when you finish your time

as said i would contact centrelink and see what money you can get....that and get a good accountant for when tax time comes....claim back tools etc

every 6mths you do get wage top ups...but they go directly to things like rego

brad

by **holmsy** » January 5th, 2010, 12:33 pm

**** man screw that. As 2nd year elec im getting around 600 a week take home

by **nstg8a** » January 5th, 2010, 12:46 pm

i looked into doing a adult apprenticeship about 6 months ago, didnt even get as far as finding out pay rates, the place i spoke to basically said i was wasteing my time, cos theres very very few places in brisbane willing to hire anyone over 21 for an apprentice.

by **sexyr6** » January 5th, 2010, 1:20 pm

Frost wrote:As for the wages, most start at around $250 per week for first year and it goes up every year about $50, but depends on the profession, but think about 3/4 years of being a tightass gets you a qualification for life.

dam I wish I got $250 a week in my first year (boiler maker) I was pullin a massive $169pw and that had to pay for the 65k round trip to work everyday, lucklily I was still living at home and didn't have to many other expences. I was rolling in it in my 4th year on $312pw, even got a car loan on that (for me ED)..

by **Frost** » January 5th, 2010, 8:26 pm

My brothers on $600 take home a week as a 2nd year Boat Builder, but thats only cause his boss wants to keep him from Flying in Flying out for work.

Depends on the job and who you know, a mate who is a 1st year Sprinkler Fitter is on 700 take home a week.

by **boostedbb** » January 5th, 2010, 8:38 pm

This point is EXACTLY why i left Nissan when i was an apprentice mechanic. I was working 8 am till 5.30 pm for $300 a week.

The worst part was the fully qualified guys there were on $17.80 or something an hour

fark that diesel mechanics shit all over that pay all our qaulifieds at work are on between $22 and $32 an hour
spare parts is the same when i was in light auto retail i was on like $16 per hour qualified now im in diesel spares im on upto $24.50 per hour (we get monthly commision)

when i started out in cars i was on a traineeship gettin 236 per week wouldn't even get out of bed for that anymore lol

by **rhys** » January 5th, 2010, 8:44 pm

Frost wrote: a mate who is a 1st year Sprinkler Fitter is on 700 take home a week.

wtf? there is apprenticeships for 'sprinkler fitting'?

by **krisisdog** » January 5th, 2010, 8:56 pm

It'd be ceiling mounted fire sprinklers, not garderners lol. Theres an art to it, I've done it for a couple of months... took home like 1k a week.

by **rhys** » January 5th, 2010, 9:05 pm

still would have thought that would just be a normal plumber, or perhaps a normal plumber with 6 months special training not a whole apprenticeship. oh well i guess its a good thing, if i was in a burning building id want the damn sprinklers working properly

would get pretty boring id imagine

by **krisisdog** » January 5th, 2010, 9:19 pm

Boring, meh same as every other job. Its shit because your in hot fucking roofs, insulation, cramped, sweating+insulation fibers = itch. No air circulation either.
Yeh its pretty shit.

by **Nardz27** » January 5th, 2010, 9:21 pm

in the last 2 months(after recieving a $20 payrise...wow) I have been getting a poor $294 p/week as 1st yr apprentice light mechanic then -$50 board to my parents, so really I end up with $244 p/week in my pocket... the 10 months before that, I was earning $277 p/week - $50 = $227 p/week..........but today was my 1 yr anniversary from startin my apprenticeship, so it will be interesting to see what i will now be getting paid as a 2nd yr. stuff all no doubt

by **DEVLXR** » January 5th, 2010, 9:21 pm

I'm a 2nd year panel beater next week, my first year I'm getting $288 a week, it's shit but I'm still at home paying board and in a bungalow out the back so I'm able to save a bit towards a house. But it still struggles, there's defiantly no way I could afford renting, or if I was I wouldn't be saving a cent towards a house. Things only get done to the car in bursts these days once I've saved enough coin to do so. Every 6 months I get a $250 apprenticeship bonus and a $500 wage top-up, which is actually due soon! :drinks2:

But as mentioned at least at the end of it I have a qualification under me and if I decide to go else where and make more money and things don't turn out, I can always come back to the trade.

by **nstg8a** » January 5th, 2010, 9:22 pm

and i thought my massive 48c an hour increase was shit...

oh yeah.thats right, it is shit. :banghead:

by **holmsy** » January 5th, 2010, 9:24 pm

makes me glad to get a payrise next week of around $200 a week or somethin

by **Frost** » January 5th, 2010, 9:26 pm

rhys375 wrote:
Frost wrote: a mate who is a 1st year Sprinkler Fitter is on 700 take home a week.

wtf? there is apprenticeships for 'sprinkler fitting'?

I could of said his offical Job Title - Pipe Layer.

But basically its a form of Plumbing/Building Construction

krisisdog wrote:Boring, meh same as every other job. Its shit because your in hot fucking roofs, insulation, cramped, sweating+insulation fibers = itch. No air circulation either.
Yeh its pretty shit.

He works on new sites, because we supply his boss computers etc for office/onsite quotes, all there work is brand new buildings mainly or upgrades when roofs have been pulled out.

You should become a Communications Trainee - Roofs all day, digging trenchs etc, when I was first year I was on 800 a week and had a car, but it was hard work.

by **Nardz27** » January 5th, 2010, 9:27 pm

fargin auto elec's...we work nxt door to an auto elec and the boss just bought a $140,000 range rover sport!!! must be some crazy money in that trade and all his work is coming from a small country town of 5000

by **Frost** » January 5th, 2010, 9:31 pm

Nardz27 wrote:fargin auto elec's...we work nxt door to an auto elec and the boss just bought a $140,000 range rover sport!!! must be some crazy money in that trade and all his work is coming from a small country town of 5000

Might not have the Money, but think he does, bank prolly owns it, and he uses it as a tax right off and that all he owns.

Exactly like my 2 bosses and there X6's

by **Nardz27** » January 5th, 2010, 9:40 pm

mmm trust me, he does have the money! he gets a new land rover every 2 yr's...for this range rover, he traded in his land rover discovery 3 which are worth $50-$60k

by **jarryddelany** » January 5th, 2010, 9:46 pm

sounds if i can get into a good auto elec place. After ive completed my apprenticeship i might be able to afford a awesum car. Like a fpv. I would love a gtho or gt40 or even a american mustang one of the new ones. But il settle with a xb coupe haha

by **Nardz27** » January 5th, 2010, 9:49 pm

some fpv gt's are as cheap as ba xr8's lol....if, for the first 2 yr's of an apprenticeship, you resist the urge to buy anything that you dont 'need', I reckon you can easily have $20,000 in the bank after 2 yr's

by **Frost** » January 5th, 2010, 9:51 pm

Nardz27 wrote:mmm trust me, he does have the money! he gets a new land rover every 2 yr's...for this range rover, he traded in his land rover discovery 3 which are worth $50-$60k

Still a difference between the business having the collateral and him having physical money.

by **nstg8a** » January 5th, 2010, 9:59 pm

could also be leased... using the lease as a tax break, salary sacrifice style.

by **krisisdog** » January 5th, 2010, 10:18 pm

Nardz27 wrote:some fpv gt's are as cheap as ba xr8's lol....if, for the first 2 yr's of an apprenticeship, you resist the urge to buy anything that you dont 'need', I reckon you can easily have $20,000 in the bank after 2 yr's

Doubtful!!
If you earn 250 a week for both years, you've only spent $6k on living for both years!!
If you can live off <$55 a week, then by all means go ahead.

by **Nardz27** » January 5th, 2010, 10:38 pm

If ur living with ur parents though?

by **holmsy** » January 5th, 2010, 10:57 pm

a mate at trade school living at home was putting away easily 2/3rds of his pay
and just bought a brand new sv6 ute (with a little bit of loan added to what he already had)

is a fair effort to do it tho.

by **CaRtZ** » January 6th, 2010, 12:33 pm

all depends how bad u want it. i moved out of home jan 07. i am just gettin my project under way but need to save a bit more yet as the list seems to be getting long as they do.

i could live on less if i got rid of a car and quit all the fun stuff but that just wouldn't be any.....well.....fun :-P

i have mates who live at home who own VL turbos n similar shit and other that live at home and drive 2000 shittas that they gunna build up but havent coz they piss up all thier pay. all depends on your choice of lifestyle really. i was a member of the "blow it all" clan however im sick of VLs dosin at me so the lifestyle has changed :good:

by **Frost** » January 6th, 2010, 5:49 pm

CaRtZ wrote:all depends how bad u want it. i moved out of home jan 07. i am just gettin my project under way but need to save a bit more yet as the list seems to be getting long as they do.

i could live on less if i got rid of a car and quit all the fun stuff but that just wouldn't be any.....well.....fun
i have mates who live at home who own VL turbos n similar shit and other that live at home and drive 2000 shittas that they gunna build up but havent coz they piss up all thier pay. all depends on your choice of lifestyle really. i was a member of the "blow it all" clan however im sick of VLs dosin at me so the lifestyle has changed

Is that how you do it, I just through you were a dealer cause you pulled 2k cash out of your top draw that day lol

by **CaRtZ** » January 6th, 2010, 6:49 pm

nah ur thinkin of Mr. "bikies took my silvia off me n comin back for the VL n break my legs coz i bought pills on credit n swolled em all with spoona" lol

nah mate took ages to save that, was for the wags coz it had no motor at that point but that was just as good a deal

by **Frost** » January 6th, 2010, 9:36 pm

CaRtZ wrote:nah ur thinkin of Mr. "bikies took my silvia off me n comin back for the VL n break my legs coz i bought pills on credit n swolled em all with spoona" lol

nah mate took ages to save that, was for the wags coz it had no motor at that point but that was just as good a deal

Hahaha.

And oh ok, Good deals are always besst drunk

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