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Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 7:42 am
by EFFalcon
Was having some issues the last week or so, car was hesitating on boost, backfiring, just feeling average.
figured the plugs probably needed to be changed.

i was right :)

This one is from Cyl 1, compared to the new plug.
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This one is from Cyl 2, this is where my car is burning most of its oil!
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i can't wait for a new motor!

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 7:46 am
by TUFED6
Has #1 melted part of the electrode off?

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 8:01 am
by EFFalcon
possibly :P
i don't know where its gone lol

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 10:46 am
by Commando
So does this mean motor #4?

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 11:46 am
by Damo
Those spark plugs are heaps thrashed. Good work!

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 12:19 pm
by fordbaby
yeah johnny boy you could say they were well beyond use.
but it still back fired heaps this morning....... it was sooooo loud hehe

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 12:24 pm
by EFFalcon
It would be motor #3... but nup.
this one is still going :)
motor #3 will go in early next year.

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 1:48 pm
by galapogos01
is that oil past the #2 plug?

all of your engines have oil dramas, not good!

are you using thicker oil to try and stop as much of the blowby as possible? are you running a catch can?

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 1:58 pm
by EFFalcon
correct Jason... oil in Cyl2, has been since we put it in though.
first one had no oil dramas till i overheated the oil :P
using thick oil but its not helping much, catch can is there but again, not helping much :P

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 2:26 pm
by Malakai
Oh crap what usually causes the electrode to go? Anything in particular?

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 3:17 pm
by Steady
It says alot for E-Series motor strength that you havent blown up more motors John LOL
You hear of BA XR6T guys taht have bent rods on 10psi generic tunes after one backfire because they forgot to regap plugs.
And yet yours keeps going LOL

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 3:26 pm
by EFFalcon
mine backfires a few times a week... fairly big ones too.
the other day when it was raining i was sideways and it backfired, all i could see was a spray of water out the edge of the bonnet where the BOV is.
it may not be too fast, but its been pretty reliable.
even with near no oil pressure! :P

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 3:38 pm
by Kenaz
Built Ford tough, eh?

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 4:11 pm
by EL XR8
I swear thats exactly how my plugs looks after about 2,000kms or less in the EL. Mine haven't lost the electrode yet though. But they get burnt or blacked up.
Oh well, it keeps going strong *touch wood*

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 4:26 pm
by TUFED6
Missing electrode is usually severely lean :P

I reckon pre-AU rods are probably much stronger than BA onward. Shorter/lighter & from what I hear better material.

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 10:35 pm
by Rollin
A tune, a tune, my kingdom for a tune......

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 6th, 2007, 11:05 pm
by Steady
EL XR8 wrote:I swear thats exactly how my plugs looks after about 2,000kms or less in the EL. Mine haven't lost the electrode yet though. But they get burnt or blacked up.
Oh well, it keeps going strong *touch wood*

Yours is black from being richer then bill gates I think Dave.
We'll fix that when we stop the belt from slipping!

And wilson, how much longer does this motor have to last?
Cause I got $20 on you not being able to get it throw a rod.

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 7th, 2007, 7:48 am
by EFFalcon
umm, until the wagon is drivable :P
i dont' thinki it'll throw a rod, it'll do bearings first.

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 7th, 2007, 7:55 am
by galapogos01
yeah, backfiring on LPG is usually a lean problem too?

you're running 2 B2s arent you?

let me know if you want to make a retarded spark map for your stock ECU :)

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 7th, 2007, 8:53 am
by EFFalcon
every time my cars backfired its been an ignition issue, not running lean.
since i changed the plugs it hasnt back fired.

i'm not concerned yet, once i replace the motor i'll check mixtures etc again.
then yes.. i might consider a new ECU map for ignition retard.

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 7th, 2007, 8:56 am
by Sunboost
I haven't checked the plugs in the green machine for over 10000km. I think it might be time :S

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 7th, 2007, 8:56 am
by Sunboost
Whoops, scratch that. I have :P Did it when Max, Dan and Jared changed the valve springs :)

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 7th, 2007, 9:24 am
by EFFalcon
10,000 meh...
these have maybe 25-30,000 km's on them.

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 7th, 2007, 12:21 pm
by fordbaby
EFFalcon wrote:every time my cars backfired its been an ignition issue, not running lean.
since i changed the plugs it hasnt back fired.

i'm not concerned yet, once i replace the motor i'll check mixtures etc again.
then yes.. i might consider a new ECU map for ignition retard.



it so has back fired, it done a huge back fire yesterday morning, what ever morning it was

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 7th, 2007, 12:23 pm
by EFFalcon
yeah, start up backfiring is different, but yes, you're right :)
apparently its a coil pack thing.

Re: Not normal

PostPosted: December 9th, 2007, 8:20 pm
by -jjM-
if u replace it, will it stock blowing mustard gas out the back of your car?