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Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 24th, 2011, 11:46 pm
by cp1pgo
Hey just wondering. Ive recently purchased hids for my car... There 6000k.. Are they illegal?

Cheers

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 10:50 am
by Rollin
Proper HID is, if you've just got different bulbs then no.

If they are too 'blue' you might find the cops will defect you - for some reason they have quite a hatred for bluish headlights.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 11:06 am
by BROCKYB8
Yeah they are in melboure. Xr lighting got defected for having them in his car.
Ive got them in mine and havent been pulled up yet

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 3:08 pm
by iCER
if i recall ig goes by rating. like 6000s and higher are illegal.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 3:21 pm
by Rollin
IF IT IS A PROPER HID KIT IT IS ILLEGAL.

IF THEY ARE REPLACEMENT BULBS WITH THE SAME WATTAGE BUT A DIFFERENT COLOUR LIGHT IT WILL DEPEND ON THE COP AS TO YOUR LIKELYHOOD OF GETTING A DEFECT.

Kind regards,

Rollin.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 3:32 pm
by AaronEF8
viewforum.php?f=21

Look at the stickied thread in that subforum... And try doing a search.

They're illegal and shit in every state.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 3:58 pm
by Dumpsta
The Narva replacement bulbs I've used are all crap.. had both the Ultra Blues and Platinums now, they look great but suck for vision. Not much different then driving by your parkers :P

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 5:01 pm
by XH XR6
Dumpsta wrote:The Narva replacement bulbs I've used are all crap.. had both the Ultra Blues and Platinums now, they look great but suck for vision. Not much different then driving by your parkers :P


Whilst a bluish or really white globe looks impressive when looking at them. They are useless as far as visibility.
A yellowish globe has a longer wavelength and improves visibility, but look like shit from the front.

Ben

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 5:08 pm
by bentls
ok HID KIT
ILLEGAL unless a load levelling kit is also fitted... like a factory HID setup

the only good aftermarket halogen globes are phillips crystal vision IMO.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 25th, 2011, 5:21 pm
by XR_Lightning
BROCKYB8 wrote:Yeah they are in melboure. Xr lighting got defected for having them in his car.
Ive got them in mine and havent been pulled up yet


yeah got defected going through a booze bus, they are unroadworthy if you dont have self-levelling headlights & self cleaners, and I was chatting to the cop and bright lights is a big thing they are going to be cracking down on

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 28th, 2011, 2:08 pm
by Adumb
illegal and fucking annoying too, no one likes being blinded

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: February 28th, 2011, 7:30 pm
by XR_Lightning
Adumb wrote:illegal and fucking annoying too, no one likes being blinded


if there adjusted properly they are fine

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: March 1st, 2011, 11:41 am
by Troutman
HID by definition involves a kit including ballasts and capsules. Almost all OEM installations run through projector headlamps running the pure white 4300k colour temperature.

Higher colour temperatures are illegal because blue lights are supposed to be reserved for emergency service vehicles, aside from looking for all the world like an embarrassingly cheesy attempt at turning a Civic into a prestige vehicle.

HID capsules do not mate with regular non-projector headlamps which have been carefully designed for filament bulbs. The result is blinding of oncoming traffic which is also illegal. When running through halogen projector headlamps (such as an ED XR6) the results are better but still illegal.

A proper HID retrofit involves fitting purpose-build HID projectors into the headlamps of a non-HID vehicle. Such a set-up will have a proper cut-off line as the light will be optimally aimed. This is a relatively major project but on the HID Planet forums you will see that many have successfully completed the operation. If done to this standard, it should be legal - I'm not clear on the legal requirements for washers and so forth.

Conventional blue-tinted light bulbs are a compromise, adding heat which damages the lighting internals whilst reducing output. A very light tint won't do much harm, but stock bulbs really are the best overall. Quality white LED 194 bulbs are nice for number plate lights and such if you want to do something a bit different. As for headlamps, best to do it right or not at all.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: March 1st, 2011, 12:09 pm
by AaronEF8
if there adjusted properly they are fine

For other drivers yeah. But you end up with bright light about 10m in front of the car, then nothing. Doing 100km/h you cover that in under half a second.

I use Philips +30's, seem pretty good. Maybe 29 times better than +1's.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: March 1st, 2011, 5:22 pm
by XR_Lightning
AaronEF8 wrote:
if there adjusted properly they are fine

For other drivers yeah. But you end up with bright light about 10m in front of the car, then nothing. Doing 100km/h you cover that in under half a second.

I use Philips +30's, seem pretty good. Maybe 29 times better than +1's.


nah, mine was spot on perfect height, high enough for me to see, while not blinding other cars, helps when you have access to a headlight aligning machine too I guess

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: March 1st, 2011, 5:28 pm
by bentls
AaronEF8 wrote:
if there adjusted properly they are fine

For other drivers yeah. But you end up with bright light about 10m in front of the car, then nothing. Doing 100km/h you cover that in under half a second.

I use Philips +30's, seem pretty good. Maybe 29 times better than +1's.

i can do maths good...

29 x 1 = 29 :P

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: March 1st, 2011, 5:30 pm
by AaronEF8
While it hasn't been covered in this thread, it has been in the stickied thread, and about a billion other times.

HID lights work in projector headlights. They are gay in refractor/reflector type headlights.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 18th, 2013, 1:05 am
by Saremon
cp1pgo wrote:Hey just wondering. Ive recently purchased hids for my car... There 6000k hid kits.. Are they illegal?

Cheers


It is not legal. It could blind another driver.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 18th, 2013, 7:57 am
by Staff
Mining much?

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 18th, 2013, 9:21 am
by SnipeZ
Put your pick axe away.


Cheers

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 18th, 2013, 12:47 pm
by XR_Lightning
Saremon wrote:
cp1pgo wrote:Hey just wondering. Ive recently purchased hids for my car... There 6000k.. Are they illegal?

Cheers


It is not legal. It could blind another driver.


Your 1st post and you replied to a post that was posted over 2 years ago :P

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 19th, 2013, 6:43 am
by thebeast.
Hid are illegal, ultra blue and Platinum by narva also are not adr approved.
Have found the best to be narva plus120

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 19th, 2013, 7:09 am
by falcon4life
Read the back of the packaging all narva ones have a colour temp and if they are too bright they will say for off road use only

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 19th, 2013, 12:34 pm
by thebeast.
On the front up the top they will say adr approved

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 19th, 2013, 7:40 pm
by XR_Lightning
thebeast. wrote:Hid are illegal, ultra blue and Platinum by narva also are not adr approved.
Have found the best to be narva plus120


Yeah same here, I also find Narva Plus 120 to be the best globe.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 21st, 2013, 4:07 pm
by Adumb
Osram night breaker plus are very good, getting great life out of them too

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 21st, 2013, 4:24 pm
by 67rce
Narva is Phillips cheapskate line.

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: June 21st, 2013, 6:24 pm
by staunchxr
I had a set of those phillips ultra blue 4300K globes on my ef xr6 were awesome :)

Re: Hid kits illegal?

PostPosted: July 27th, 2013, 10:11 am
by Olskool351
I've had a bit to do with these in NSW.
The RMS doesn't allow them because the ADR require self-levelling and headlamp washers.
I am also led to believe the lens are different on HID.