Au - Ba Weight Difference

[Sterling]

Hi everyone, had no idea where to put this so just threw it here.

is it true AU's are lighter than BA's?? If so, how much?

[bentls]

yes by approx 100-200kg depending on model for what purpose do you need to know?

an au v8 fairmont ghia is prob heavier than a ba xt tho...

[Sterling]

theres been alot of talk about the i6 barra swaps..giving me stupid ideas.. suppose there wouldnt be much point if your only saving max 200kg's over a ba.

[bentls]

i personally would never put a ba motor into an au, when the cost involved would be around the same as buying a ba in the first place and then the car wont look like an aborted foetus with a ba motor


that being said, its a good conversion for e series guys because their cars are so much lighter

[Mr_4.0]

200kg weight saving is nothing to be sneezed at tho!! That's like 4 bags if cement!

[bentls]

that 200kg saving is like from base au forte to a optioned up xr6t with zf tho...

au is like 1560 and ba xt is like 1650 or something

[Sterling]

true, the e series with barra's is pretty cool. and yeah bentls, your right, my car + $3000 = Au with barra, or my car plus $3000 = buy an xt. lol

and yeah 200 is a bit, but i moreso look at it as passengers, basically sounds like if i put the ba motor in, and had 2 or 3 passengers, it would be as fast as it is now.. with the stocko.

[Parfrey]

AU with live axle is probably lighter than IRS too..

[AaronEF8]

live axle AU is like 90kg lighter. AU2/3 is also about 80kg heavier than S1.

[Sterling]

yeah mines a solid rear. intresting to know

[Sunboost]

Basic searches on the internet turn-up these details ASAP. I hate having a forum full of guesstimates and shit posts.

AU XR6 = 1465
BA XR6 =1690

[bentls]

wikipedia says
AU Curb weight 1,437 kg (3,170 lb)–1,645 kg
BA Curb weight 1,620 kg (3,600 lb)–1,740 kg

Does this post please you more Sir. Sunny?

[EFFalcon]

arn't some AU's lighter then the equiv EF/EL?

[Sunboost]

wikipedia says
AU Curb weight 1,437 kg (3,170 lb)–1,645 kg
BA Curb weight 1,620 kg (3,600 lb)–1,740 kg

Does this post please you more Sir. Sunny?

Shoulda done that in the first place!!

[bentls]

I shouldn't have... Sterling should have

[EFFalcon]

Since we're using wikipedia
EL Sedan: 1,536–1,704 kg

take it with a grain of salt, these could be with/without fuel etc.

but wikipedia does say ~35kg was shaved from the EL to AU.
so if its worth going DOHC in an Eseries, its just as worthwhile in an AU.
especially given one of the 'difficulties' isnt an issue in AU.

[Sterling]

**** wikipedia, asking on forums is more fun.... if everybody just searched the internet instead of posting half the threads would disappear.

intresting what EFFalcon just said though, and yes it would definately be easier in an AU.

some wreckers did a converion a while ago on AFF.

apparently there was some custom work with power steering hoses, and you have to frankenstein the ba air intake to the au body.

otherwise it all bolts together... even engine mounts.

only real trouble they had was getting the VCT working. and that itself, opened up a whole can of worms.

and yeah some car manufacturers weigh there cars without oil, coolant etc, let alone fuel. all that can add alot of weight.

in the end its not a world of difference still from the ba to the au

[EFFalcon]

FTG Autosalvage did the BA Motor into AU in the earlier days, when using the factory BA ECU was deemed tricky.
locked cam gears, using the AU coil pack etc etc.
They never really went into detail about how well it ran.

Its not really much different to an eseries, other then the cross member being more friendly in an AU.

[Sterling]

yeah thats the one, FTG Autosalvage

[Sunboost]

**** wikipedia, asking on forums is more fun....

And it's statements like that that have made you look like a right dickhead in the past.

Everything you've said and asked for in this thread has been covered several times over many years, and is easily accessible with a basic search.

[Sterling]

lol this is rediculous, if you see a thread about a question that has been asked before,

and you cant be bothered replying, then dont reply.

dont hate people who are too lazy to search.. everyone knows forum search engines are useless.

and as for wikipedia, sometimes they are wrong, too. and people who have been elbow deep in fords for years know the proper answers...

[Dansedgli]

Forum search engines always work for me. Are you putting the words in the right box?

Who cares about weight saving. 350kw B series are fast. The same motor in an AU is at least just as fast.

[.tapeworm]

I wonder where Ford saved weight in the AU as it's a fair bit bigger than the E-series. MY EF weight 1594kg according to the Facotry log book so I'm blown away that an AU can weigh as little as 1430kg or whatever it is. Does anyone know if they throw out these weights as dry weight? deescuss.

[brad_m]

**** wikipedia, asking on forums is more fun.... if everybody just searched the internet instead of posting half the threads would disappear.

OK people, Who here would be upset if all the threads like the one we are in disappeared.


Yes Half the threads would never have been posted, BUT that half would the be shit useless ones and real info would be easier to find.

[Dansedgli]

Damn straight.

[Sterling]

**** wikipedia, asking on forums is more fun.... if everybody just searched the internet instead of posting half the threads would disappear.

OK people, Who here would be upset if all the threads like the one we are in disappeared.


Yes Half the threads would never have been posted, BUT that half would the be shit useless ones and real info would be easier to find.

thats a good point, didnt see it from that way.

[AmmoJammo]

From redbook

2001 AU III Futura Wagon - 1600kg
2003 BA Futura Wagon - 1634kg

2001 AU III Futura Sedan - 1514kg
2003 BA Futura Sedan - 1644kg

I have no idea how the BA sedan weighs more than the BA wagon, while the AU sedan weighs less than the AU wagon...

I don't believe any of these figures :p

[EFFalcon]

IRS would be a good start to explain the difference.

[nothin suss]

And the fact a sedan has all the parcel shelf and the c pillar area.
Wagons are just a tin can with a tailgate.