BTR PIECE OF SH*T

This is a general discussion forum, open to all participants

BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 3rd, 2008, 6:36 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 12th, 2008, 3:42 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 3rd, 2008, 7:07 pm

should i put a t5 in? t56? c6?
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby Dansedgli » February 3rd, 2008, 7:08 pm

C6 is an auto.

T56 would be good but its pricey. The T5 wont like being behind a boosted windsor.
User avatar
Dansedgli
Melting Pistons
 
Posts: 9734
Joined: July 13th, 2007, 11:35 am
Location: Melbourne
Has Liked: 75 times
Been Liked: 542 times

2001 Ford Falcon Ute

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 3rd, 2008, 7:18 pm

how much for t56 conversion you think?
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby Dansedgli » February 3rd, 2008, 7:25 pm

I think a conversion from mal wood is $8k ish.

A tko 5 speed is just as strong and would be around $5500.
User avatar
Dansedgli
Melting Pistons
 
Posts: 9734
Joined: July 13th, 2007, 11:35 am
Location: Melbourne
Has Liked: 75 times
Been Liked: 542 times

2001 Ford Falcon Ute

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby private9 » February 3rd, 2008, 7:26 pm

CMYWPN wrote:how much for t56 conversion you think?

I got quoted close to 8k by Mal Wood for this. :cry:
Image
User avatar
private9
Hitting N2O
 
Posts: 3388
Joined: August 13th, 2007, 7:58 pm
Location: Not in the diner Alf, not in the diner...
Has Liked: 4 times
Been Liked: 185 times

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 3rd, 2008, 7:28 pm

8 grand for what? the box will cost so much, then theres the clutch, flywheel, tail shaft, mount, bell housing, master and slave cyl.....shit it all adds up i suppose?
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby John_LS1 » February 3rd, 2008, 7:33 pm

pretty sure for the 8K you get everything required?
VZ Berlina 408 stroker, TH400 with TCE 4500 converter, 3.9's with trutrac, difilippo 1 7/8 headers and 3 inch Exhaust.
User avatar
John_LS1
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 749
Joined: July 16th, 2007, 1:11 am
Has Liked: 2 times
Been Liked: 4 times

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 3rd, 2008, 7:45 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 24th, 2008, 11:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby private9 » February 3rd, 2008, 7:53 pm

John_LS1 wrote:pretty sure for the 8K you get everything required?

Yep 8k for all required - then you've still gotta put the bastard in!
Image
User avatar
private9
Hitting N2O
 
Posts: 3388
Joined: August 13th, 2007, 7:58 pm
Location: Not in the diner Alf, not in the diner...
Has Liked: 4 times
Been Liked: 185 times

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby private9 » February 3rd, 2008, 7:53 pm

CMYWPN wrote:fek that, i might just put a t5 in and sell the POS

If that's the intent, just grab another BTR.
Image
User avatar
private9
Hitting N2O
 
Posts: 3388
Joined: August 13th, 2007, 7:58 pm
Location: Not in the diner Alf, not in the diner...
Has Liked: 4 times
Been Liked: 185 times

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby Commando » February 3rd, 2008, 9:00 pm

replacement V8 BTR, $400ish
Previous: 1982 XE GL 3.3: 5 speed | 1991 EB Ghia 5.0: Vortech, Tiptronic, 4.11s, 232rwkw | 1995 EF GLi 4.0 wagon: LPG | 2006 BF Fairmont 4.0: JTG LiLPG
Now: 2016 Hilux SR HiRider
User avatar
Commando
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11559
Joined: July 13th, 2007, 12:08 pm
Location: Stradbrokeback
Has Liked: 110 times
Been Liked: 516 times

2006 Ford Fairmont

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 3rd, 2008, 9:35 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 24th, 2008, 11:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby Commando » February 3rd, 2008, 9:40 pm

sif get new paint instead of 2nd hand paint :P

Well good luck with the rebuild then. It is an exceptional car after all.
Previous: 1982 XE GL 3.3: 5 speed | 1991 EB Ghia 5.0: Vortech, Tiptronic, 4.11s, 232rwkw | 1995 EF GLi 4.0 wagon: LPG | 2006 BF Fairmont 4.0: JTG LiLPG
Now: 2016 Hilux SR HiRider
User avatar
Commando
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11559
Joined: July 13th, 2007, 12:08 pm
Location: Stradbrokeback
Has Liked: 110 times
Been Liked: 516 times

2006 Ford Fairmont

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 3rd, 2008, 9:45 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 24th, 2008, 11:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby 67rce » February 4th, 2008, 12:44 pm

rollin spent around $4k and made the rest himself
Cammed Suzuki Baleno, Haltech PS1000, E85
User avatar
67rce
Breaking Intake Welds
 
Posts: 4073
Joined: October 27th, 2007, 3:39 pm
Location: Brisbane
Has Liked: 170 times
Been Liked: 100 times

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 4th, 2008, 5:01 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 24th, 2008, 11:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby Commando » February 4th, 2008, 5:52 pm

drivability =
Rollin wrote:eleventy billion
times better with a 6 speed!
Previous: 1982 XE GL 3.3: 5 speed | 1991 EB Ghia 5.0: Vortech, Tiptronic, 4.11s, 232rwkw | 1995 EF GLi 4.0 wagon: LPG | 2006 BF Fairmont 4.0: JTG LiLPG
Now: 2016 Hilux SR HiRider
User avatar
Commando
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 11559
Joined: July 13th, 2007, 12:08 pm
Location: Stradbrokeback
Has Liked: 110 times
Been Liked: 516 times

2006 Ford Fairmont

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby EBOOST » February 4th, 2008, 6:03 pm

someone told me the windsor kits were $6k but i might be wrong.
cheers josh.
Get Stroked!!
AU Stroked 5.6L Ghia.
User avatar
EBOOST
Hitting N2O
 
Posts: 3506
Joined: July 20th, 2007, 12:27 pm
Has Liked: 437 times
Been Liked: 93 times

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 5th, 2008, 4:37 pm

pulled the auto out last night and dropped it off to preston's, they are repairing it for me, most ill have to pay is parts. should be in tomorrow night.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby Gozza » February 5th, 2008, 5:05 pm

Who cares about resale value? why spend another 10 grand on Turbos n shiz? To have fun and enjoy spending money
Its a stack of f*ck shit, on top of itself niggaaaaaa
User avatar
Gozza
Hitting N2O
 
Posts: 3609
Joined: August 10th, 2007, 11:31 am
Location: Brisbane
Has Liked: 1 time
Been Liked: 3 times

1992 Ford Falcon

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby EFFalcon » February 5th, 2008, 6:18 pm

20's, respray, stupidly worked motor, big brakes and ur worried about resale :P
either way, tough BTR is the way to go.
manuals MEH!
1995 Falcon GLi | 1997 EL GT | 1995 Falcon Futura | 1983 Thunderbird Heritage | 2003 Fairmont Ghia
User avatar
EFFalcon
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 14797
Joined: June 4th, 2007, 8:26 pm
Location: Carrum Downs
Has Liked: 26 times
Been Liked: 766 times

1995 Ford Falcon

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby AaronEF8 » February 5th, 2008, 7:54 pm

I'd go the auto too, esp. if you're thinking of going turbo.

If you want to sell your car one day and make anywhere near what you paid for it, DON'T BUY A FALCON!!! Get a VW Golf Turbo Diesel.
Commando wrote:seriously, this thread is now a complete cyber skip bin filled with all kinds of waste from the internet...
AaronEF8
Full Boost
 
Posts: 2675
Joined: July 20th, 2007, 11:40 pm
Location: Melbourne East
Has Liked: 55 times
Been Liked: 245 times

1997 Ford Fairmont

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 5th, 2008, 9:00 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 24th, 2008, 11:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby Frost » February 6th, 2008, 2:29 pm

CMYWPN wrote:spending 8g's on an extra pedal and the choice of manually selecting an extra 2 gears wont make car look any better, wont make car go any better, wont make car stop any better.


I beg to differ, you will have less drive trainloss with a t56 making it go quicker. You will also use less fuel.

Also it will stop you quicker if you compression lockup on down change :)
Frost
Full Boost
 
Posts: 2543
Joined: August 21st, 2007, 9:25 pm
Has Liked: 4 times
Been Liked: 3 times

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby TUFED6 » February 6th, 2008, 2:45 pm

CMYWPN wrote:10g's on a turbo will make the car 3 times as quick, 8g's on a 6 speed manual will make the car slower- go figure.

as for resale value comments, i put the 20's on to make car look good when im cruisin, resprayed to make car look good while cruisin, big brakes to make car look good and stop good, spending 8g's on an extra pedal and the choice of manually selecting an extra 2 gears wont make car look any better, wont make car go any better, wont make car stop any better. yeah should spend double what i paid for the car on something that will do very little. See where im coming from AMIGO!


My $0.02, if your serious about making power with the turbo setup you will probably need to upgrade the trans anyway. T5 isn't going to take much abuse and the BTR will definitely need all the good shit inside if its going to last.
User avatar
TUFED6
Full Boost
 
Posts: 2926
Joined: July 13th, 2007, 12:21 pm
Location: I put the fuk into shima
Has Liked: 2 times
Been Liked: 434 times

1994 Ford Falcon

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 6th, 2008, 2:55 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 24th, 2008, 11:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby Gozza » February 6th, 2008, 4:39 pm

Hostility? I wasn't asking why would you spend money on go fasts bits..it was rhetorical . I think it has been comprehended incorrectly.

My point was we all do so much more than the car is worth and none of it will be recouped if sold.....My response was to your comment about the T56 conversion and it not getting any money back...It doesn't take a genius to realise big power needs a strong box . Also the conversion can be done half as much as you preach .....You won't get far with a TT V8
Its a stack of f*ck shit, on top of itself niggaaaaaa
User avatar
Gozza
Hitting N2O
 
Posts: 3609
Joined: August 10th, 2007, 11:31 am
Location: Brisbane
Has Liked: 1 time
Been Liked: 3 times

1992 Ford Falcon

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby AaronEF8 » February 6th, 2008, 5:00 pm

"Gears are for going, brakes are for slowing". If you need to compression lock to slow down, get some bigger rear brakes. Compression locking kills clutches, the only good thing about it is when drifting (actual drifting, not getting sideways leaving a corner).

CMYWPN - Does the BTR have kevlar bands etc like a worked XR6T box? If it's built properly it'll handle 600rwhp for a decent length of time.

BTR's are a great box on paper, the biggest 2 problems are BTR's (total lack of) quality control, so you get some great boxes, and some utter dogs. The other problem is Ford's 'attempt' at tuning the TCU.

Oh, and the biggest trans cooler available will help too. BTR = Burns The Road :P
Commando wrote:seriously, this thread is now a complete cyber skip bin filled with all kinds of waste from the internet...
AaronEF8
Full Boost
 
Posts: 2675
Joined: July 20th, 2007, 11:40 pm
Location: Melbourne East
Has Liked: 55 times
Been Liked: 245 times

1997 Ford Fairmont

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 6th, 2008, 5:13 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 24th, 2008, 11:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby EBOOST » February 6th, 2008, 5:36 pm

no good man. i hate wen people try and play u wen u dont no that much about trans and diffs.
diff guy did it to me but i wrecked him coz i asked around just like u.
hope all goes well.
cheers josh.
Get Stroked!!
AU Stroked 5.6L Ghia.
User avatar
EBOOST
Hitting N2O
 
Posts: 3506
Joined: July 20th, 2007, 12:27 pm
Has Liked: 437 times
Been Liked: 93 times

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby AaronEF8 » February 6th, 2008, 6:00 pm

I would ask why the bush slipped. There are a LOT of BTR's that are taking more power, and (I presume) more of a thrashing, and they don't have slipping bush problems. The only way I can see the bush slipping (if it did) is from faulty workmanship, which is the workshops problem.

If the bush didn't slip, then the C3 clutch drum wouldn't need replacing, and the band wouldn't need replacing.

If all else fails, give the ACCC a call and see what they suggest from there.
Commando wrote:seriously, this thread is now a complete cyber skip bin filled with all kinds of waste from the internet...
AaronEF8
Full Boost
 
Posts: 2675
Joined: July 20th, 2007, 11:40 pm
Location: Melbourne East
Has Liked: 55 times
Been Liked: 245 times

1997 Ford Fairmont

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 6th, 2008, 9:23 pm

.
Last edited by CMYWPN on March 24th, 2008, 11:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby sphell » February 6th, 2008, 9:46 pm

That sucks mate but really, what can you do? Your gonna have to pay it I guess. Still, $550 is better than spending 8k on a new box.
User avatar
sphell
Cruising
 
Posts: 338
Joined: July 27th, 2007, 6:18 pm
Location: Melbourne
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time

Re: BTR PIECE OF SH*T

Postby CMYWPN » February 6th, 2008, 9:48 pm

.
Brad Evans, AKA WAGGIN- Your such a coward. I go out of my way to help you out and you cant even return what does not belong to you. Shame Shame Shame!
CMYWPN
Spooling Up
 
Posts: 771
Joined: July 19th, 2007, 5:42 pm
Location: Brisbane QLD
Has Liked: 0 time
Been Liked: 0 time


Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users