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				Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:01 pmby Sunboost
				Hey Guys, 
(Fk Ima get flamed) 
I want to change the cam and valve springs in my EA this weekend or next and don't have the tools (spring compressor) / experience to do the valve springs. 
Just wondering if one or two people who know how to do it want to come over and give us a hand doing it either this Sunday or the one after? I can't have a full blown mod day, maybe like 1 or 2 people who know how to do it well come over and I'll throw a BBQ and all that junk. 
Let us know!
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:09 pmby someLS1
				i know how to do it but i have no tools like spring compressors.. john had all that stuff.. u also need an air compressor with a special fitting to put in the sparkplug holes to hold the valves alternatively john had some rope method if you dont have a compressor but i have no idea how he did that.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:19 pmby Gunns
				Rope method works well.  You need a strong magnet to remove the collets (just makes life easy).
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:22 pmby Sunboost
				I think Doug has the spring compressors and I have an air compressor - I can buy the other tool if need be. 
Help me Max !
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:26 pmby someLS1
				You can get fittings of the same thread type as a spark plug which has an inner that suits an airhose...buy them from repco or some shit.. i dont think it would be too expensive i did it at a mates and he had all that. I can help but this weekend im going to falls creek. If you cant get anyone this weekend, i can give a hand weekend after.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:29 pmby Sunboost
				Aight. I'll rip it apart this weekend and we can do it the week after if that suits you Max?! 
The milky bars are on me.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:34 pmby someLS1
				Sounds good to me dude ill have my license that weekend aswell so i can actually get there hahaha ill talk to you on msn about it or somethin
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:40 pmby Sunboost
				Sweet as.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:41 pmby spope
				Sunny I have all those tools that you need - spring compressor, collet tool and air compressor tool thingy.
I've only ever changed the springs with the head not in the car though. 

 Happy to lend you the tools though.
 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 1:46 pmby Sunboost
				Sweet, I'll keep it in mind Steve! Much appreciated. 
3 more posts and I've got 600. 
How fking sad.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 3:37 pmby -jjM-
				we have the tool to take out the springs, we just used the air compressor to pressure the cylinder tube, so the valve dosent drop, zervos use to just bring the piston all the way to the top and if the valve dropped, it didn't go into the head
more then happy to lend a hand or just take all the food, one or the other
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 7:31 pmby [D1SCNT]
				pay me and il do it.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 7:47 pmby John_LS1
				yeah its easy to do, just remove all spark plugs, it will make turning the engine easier. rope method works good and you definetly wont lose a valve in the cylinder. 

id lend a hand but you know....
 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 8:02 pmby Sunboost
				[D1SCNT] wrote:pay me and il do it.
I asked for lend of hand from "mates". If I wanted to pay someone I'd either buy the tool and follow the bodgily written Ford book or take it to Dynomotive. 
Max I'll let you know how I go! I'll try get Doug down and see if I can rope Dan in too. BBQ FTW 

 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 8:09 pmby [D1SCNT]
				o i get it now;)...
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 8:10 pmby Kenaz
				Sundeep wrote: BBQ FTW 

 
My ears just pricked up. 
I might come down to 'lend a hand'
 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 13th, 2007, 8:40 pmby DaNeOs
				sunny got all the tools also if you need them, just let us know...
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 14th, 2007, 9:41 amby Sunboost
				Kenaz wrote:Sundeep wrote: BBQ FTW 

 
My ears just pricked up. 
I might come down to 'lend a hand'
 
Sweet. You can cook then ey? 
Daneos thanks for the offer man if I need the tools I'll come grab 'em!
 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 14th, 2007, 9:44 amby needfordspeed
				Awesome i'll be there, i'm down for a BBQ 

 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 14th, 2007, 9:46 pmby Kenaz
				Sundeep wrote:Kenaz wrote:Sundeep wrote: BBQ FTW 

 
My ears just pricked up. 
I might come down to 'lend a hand'
 
Sweet. You can cook then ey? 
 
Indeed I can. 
Although that's not what I was alluding to. lol
But yes, I can come down to cook for ya's 

 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 19th, 2007, 5:17 pmby Sunboost
				Made some progress today after spending yesterday fixing Gill's car and doing some maintenance on the EL. 
Gill came round and ripped out the turbo manifold while I ripped all the cam related stuff out, so it's ready to have the valve springs changed. Max, if you are able to help let me know man, I want to get it done next Saturday morning ish if you're free. Let me know! I want to do the diff and shifter next Sunday once it's mobile again. 
On the list is as followed:
-Crow double valve springs
-Either a DEV4 cam or custom grind turbo cam
-New turbo and exhaust gaskets
-New diff and rear brakes (3.73:1, may possibly be changing the internals from EF case to EA)
-Billet Quick-Shifter
-14-15PSI 

Then after this is just the cosmetics and finishing the stereo gear, along with spraying the front bar and stuff. I have purchased a ED XR front lip as well.
Yay for the EA being ready for Summer two-thousand-and-never.
 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 19th, 2007, 7:23 pmby [D1SCNT]
				man if i had the time you know id chop you out, new job and other commitments have me fucked im sure you know how it is.
gl with it bro its not a hard job just tedeus.
p.s the plans sound sweet as, this bitch will be a fukin full muzzmobile when ur done... when ever that will be ay:D
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 19th, 2007, 7:41 pmby Damo
				good work man, i'm pretty sure I have a weekend off coming up finally, so will probably come give ya a hand if ya want. Should go nuts with the 3.7's and cam.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 19th, 2007, 7:59 pmby Sunboost
				That's cool Pat I know you're busy and sht bro. 
Yeah Damo I'm hoping the valve springs will help it rev out easier and smoother, like Gill's car does. The standard cam is way too restrictive and the standard springs probably float with the boost, and aren't doing a great job when it comes to smooth revving. 
3.73's will help decrease the load a tad hence a need for further boost 

 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 20th, 2007, 10:50 amby SNR
				Let me know how the springs go, it sounds like I might need valve springs too....
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 20th, 2007, 11:36 amby galapogos01
				Dont get the DEV4, get a custom grind!  Speak with Surecam, that guy REALLY knows his shit.  With all the cars you part out, surely you can afford the $230 he asks for a custom grind 

 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 20th, 2007, 12:08 pmby Sunboost
				I've got 2 cams! Got the custom one from Dan and the DEV4. If the DEV4 doesn't float my boat I'll go with Dan's. Dan's one will prob require me to get a retune though.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 20th, 2007, 12:28 pmby someLS1
				Hey Sunny sat morn should be fine this weekend is pretty free for me... as long as its not too early hahaha
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 20th, 2007, 12:38 pmby Sunboost
				10 or 11 sound good Max? I want to throw it back together then take it to Gill's to do the diff and rip shifter at his joint. Should be a fun day haha.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 20th, 2007, 12:58 pmby someLS1
				sounds good man ill talk to you about it all on msn
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 25th, 2007, 8:31 pmby Sunboost
				Jared, Max, Joe, Rips, Dan and Gill all put in a mammoth effort today and got the valve springs done and dusted! Was a top effort from Max and Jared who pretty much did the valve springs themselves after I got stubborn and with my fuked up turbo manifold and fixing it's studs. Spent the better part of the day getting a broken stud out and a hole retapped for it. In the end it's worked out pretty damn good. The manifold is now refurb'd and bolted back in and the valve springs await the DEV4 cam.
Big thanks to the boys for their help!!
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 25th, 2007, 10:42 pmby Steady
				No dramas Sunny, happy to lend a hand.
Be good to see the car back on the road!
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 26th, 2007, 11:48 amby -jjM-
				bigger turbo time, next mod day
also give me back my presious rope, i need it back
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 26th, 2007, 5:10 pmby someLS1
				No worries man it was easier to do on your car then mine for some reason.. maybe experience hahaha.. or it could be the air tool!!!.. remember no air tools and wear safety goggles any time you do a valve spring change
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 26th, 2007, 9:47 pmby Kenaz
				Sounds good mate. 
Be interesting to see how it goes with the new mods 

 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 27th, 2007, 9:37 amby ed40
				hey sundeep what p/n was ur crow double vlave springs? I got some the other day from my work and they were way too tall.. definately the wrongs ones but they were listed on the computer to suit ford 4l OHC EA-EL or something. I ended up buying a set of crane ones..
			 
			
		
			
				Re: Mod day for changing valve springs?!
				
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August 27th, 2007, 2:33 pmby Damo
				7333-12 - Crow Double Vale Springs