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Intake Mod- Opinions?

PostPosted: July 16th, 2008, 1:51 am
by serial_fool
Just stubbled upon this article
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_110600/article.html
Basically Ford made a system designed for their supercharged V6s that cooled the air (aka intercooler) but decreased the ambient temp futher by directing air into it from using a uprated air conditioner.


Now I'm just wondering if it would at all be applicable to run air produced from the normal run of the mill EA falcon air conditioning unit into the log manifold ( via the PCV valve hose)to produce a gain in power? I know it sounds retarded and it won't likey do anything with the stock E series air conditioning unit/fans but the general rule is colder air = denser air= more power.

Just putting it out there, any thoughts to why it wouldn't/ shouldn't work?

Re: Intake Mod- Opinions?

PostPosted: July 16th, 2008, 6:49 am
by Commando
You can certainly get it to work, but your power output will be LESS than before.

Power to get a/c working >> potential power increase from air-conditioned intake.

Re: Intake Mod- Opinions?

PostPosted: July 16th, 2008, 7:06 am
by Bipolar
What an electric unit could be sourced? Would the amp drain negate the advantage then? I suppose the other side is if you plumbed in your current AC and ONLY ran it when you wanted to your cabin cooler, there wouldn't be any unnecessary power being drained.

Re: Intake Mod- Opinions?

PostPosted: July 16th, 2008, 8:05 am
by Commando
Probably a similar deal...

Power to get a/c working (this time from the alternator/electric motor + electrical system) >> potential power increase from air-conditioned intake.

Re: Intake Mod- Opinions?

PostPosted: July 16th, 2008, 8:12 am
by Steady
Laws of thermodynamics and shit.
Energy is not created, it just changes states, and the best scenario you can hope for is no loss, there can be nothing gained.

That ford system is alot more complex then what you are suggesting LOL
For those that CBF reading, it's basically a water to air intercooler with a large header tank and no heat exchanger in the circuit, that isn't recircing the water all the time.
The AC cools the 'water', then when engine is under load and charge air temp goes up, it recirculates the stored 'water' through the intercooler to take heat out of the charge air.