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Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 10:59 am
by Allen
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/art ... _news.html

BREAKING NEWS FORD will continue operating its Geelong engine plant, saving 1300 jobs – 400 at Ford and up to 900 among its suppliers.

"$21 million will be invested in plant and equipment and further investment will go towards engineering the inline-6 engine to meet the stringent Euro IV environmental standard,'' Federal Industry Minister Senator Kim Carr saiod this morning.

The inline-6 is a unique Australian engine that uses components from suppliers in Geelong and across the country.

All three Australian-based motor vehicle producers will now be making engines to meet the new Euro IV standards when they are introduced into Australia in 2010,'' Senator Carr said.

Ford will invest the $21 million continued use post-2010, as well as invest in considerable engineering development of the I6 engine to ensure compliance with stringent Euro IV emissions standards.

This adds to the $200 million that the company has previously invested in facilities and product development in Geelong since 2006 and will supplement the company's ongoing Geelong-based stamping, R&D and Proving Ground facilities, the company said in a statement just issued.

"This decision is good news, not only for our employees in Geelong, our suppliers and the surrounding community, but also for the many fans of our I6 engine, which will now be re-engineered to achieve Euro IV emissions standards," said Ford Australia president and CEO Marin Burela.

Ford said that in addition to direct employment benefits for the Geelong region, retaining the engine plant was expected to provide an on-flow of business to local service providers. Australian component suppliers would also benefit due to the continued requirement for a number of engine components, including intake manifolds, engine pistons, gaskets and bearings.

"This is the first step in a broad product investment strategy to reduce emissions and deliver improved fuel economy across our locally built vehicle line-up, including Falcon, Falcon Ute and Territory."

Ford said it believed the Federal Government's new Green Car Innovation Fund provided a framework for the company to investigate an additional range of environmentally-oriented product investment initiatives which, when combined with emissions improvements to the popular I6 engine, wouldl increase future competitiveness.

"Our I6 engine continues to receive rave reviews for its performance, fuel economy and quietness. Keeping this engine in our product line-up will allow us to maintain our competitive edge and provide a distinct advantage over our direct competition," said Mr Burela.

"When added to our other proposed future product actions, we will offer consumers a range of choices that will allow them to continue enjoying all the benefits of Australia’s only locally manufactured vehicle to achieve a 5-star safety rating, along with continued fuel economy improvements and reduced emissions."



Good news for our local industry!

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:04 am
by edfairmont4.0
THANK FUCKING CHRIST. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MORE 4.0L :mrgreen:

please not be bullshit. :roll:

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:13 am
by Dezza
Awesome news! The current 4.0litre is so good it's great news that it'll continue for a little longer at least!

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:15 am
by edfairmont4.0
I wonder if they will produce the 4.0 In an alloy block? - I think thats what they needed to do to pass Euro 4 emmissions... apparently the cast block slows warm up time- thus cold start mixture is too long thus... more pollutants bla bla...

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:16 am
by nommic
Interesting news.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:19 am
by Commando
Hopefully they bring back the 302 :P

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:25 am
by EF ECTIV
sweet, no v6.... awesome news....

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:34 am
by edfairmont4.0
Commando wrote:Hopefully they bring back the 302 :P


hahahahah the way the boss performs do it lol copy holden stroke it to over 6.0L and have a big lump of pushrod goodness :p

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:36 am
by BLC
Tis nice to see some positive news regarding the automotive industry for once!

Glad the 4.0 is staying :mrgreen:

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:38 am
by get_an_ea_today
Sweet as :D

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 11:54 am
by donno
YES FARKEN!!!!

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 1:18 pm
by Bipolar
Just about brought a tear...

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 1:30 pm
by Malakai
Good news indeed!

"When added to our other proposed future product actions, we will offer consumers a range of choices that will allow them to continue enjoying all the benefits of Australia’s only locally manufactured vehicle to achieve a 5-star safety rating, along with continued fuel economy improvements and reduced emissions."

I wonder if this means that they will still be doing the V6. They have just decided to keep the I6 going as well.

Read that part carefully, I think that is what they are saying.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 1:37 pm
by Bipolar
I think that's more referring to LPG and hydrogen versions.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 3:24 pm
by nothin suss
Great news, spirit has risen down here for sure!

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 4:20 pm
by ford_racing_8
wow, finally some good news from ford.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 5:39 pm
by Steady
Funny how the world works.
A global economic crisis saved the 4L.

Can't help but think of missed oppurtunity though, going to a global engine ala Duratec based V6 would have been a good thing for people modifying them.
Good news for Geelong though!

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 5:56 pm
by LUXO_8
Steady wrote:
Can't help but think of missed oppurtunity though, going to a global engine ala Duratec based V6 would have been a good thing for people modifying them.

i agree.... i wonder if we're still going to be designing the global platform here or if thats gone as well.... i think it required the V6 driveline

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 6:15 pm
by CaRtZ
great to hear some good news..... today i heard Holden will become Japan based and in the U.S. GM, Ford and another major player (name escapes me right now) will be struggling to stay open after xmas

they will have to eventually go to V6 as it will cost too much to develop the I6 to meet the Euro V standards

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 6:18 pm
by holmsy
what i find funny.
they make this announcement about a month after most people at the geelong plant received offers for packages.
even the apprentices wer offered i think it was 9 grand if they left.
now they are sayin pretty much they didnt need to go.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 6:36 pm
by EBOOST
yeah this is very good news and cartz it will cost alot to develop it and get it to pass but once the developments and engineerings done they just have to make more the same so if theyre spending the money now i doubt theyll go to a v6 any time soon.
cheers josh.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 7:32 pm
by EdFairmontGhia
Mark hope you can help save the company when you start up with them next year...

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 10:17 pm
by Frost
Who says its even going to be Petrol :O

Diesel I6 anyone?

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 10:21 pm
by edfairmont4.0
hahahahhahaha Yeah right. I think there will be options but I6 diesel only LOL :lol:

Suppose holden would love that the sv6 MAYYYYY have a chance against the I6 in diesel form :P But thats pushing it. :|

SV6 run 16.0 :|

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 10:22 pm
by edfairmont4.0
Be good if they made it Euro 4 relativelly easily... then exported falcons with the I6. Would be nice.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 10:26 pm
by Frost
I remember reading somewhere, that they couldnt just start casing an alloy block because it is a large motor and it would get too hot.

Diesel I6 + Turbo in a BA XT now that would be nice lol.

Mondeos and Focus's pull quite hard for a TDI, then you get the xr versions are slightly more tweek'd n they pull harder again. But base model mondeo has a TDI motor, no reason why falcon xt couldnt have a TDI 4lt as a base model.

If they could get injected LPG to be straight without out needing of petrol that would be cool too.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 10:32 pm
by edfairmont4.0
Agree...

and yeah the LPG model needs to improve. They should be LPG injected factory and they would actually gain power and torque + fuel economy = win, but cost is probably an issue.

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 20th, 2008, 10:46 pm
by Russ.
I've heard from a few sources ( I used to work at Ford and a number of my mates have worked at Prodrive, Holden etc. as engineers) that they were having MASSIVE trouble fitting the v6's into the FG engine bay, which they needed to overcome, because the V6 was supposed to be released into the FG (or next "faelift" model). I wonder if that has had an influence...

Re: Ford 4.0 to stay in production

PostPosted: November 21st, 2008, 1:17 am
by edfairmont4.0
Awesome and may a V6 never fit a falcon body :D