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hoon laws

PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 6:55 am
by 93edxr6
hey guys

do any of you know with the hoon laws if the strikes go to the driver or the car/rego?

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 7:06 am
by Steady
Driver.

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 7:10 am
by Malakai
Yeah three strikes and they crush YOU on ACA... that's how it works isn't it?

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 7:38 am
by t1MMy
Strikes go to the driver AND the rego is recorded for other members of the police to keep an eye out

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:09 pm
by 93edxr6
so after 3 times what happens on the 4th time?

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:21 pm
by edfairmont4.0
crushies

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:40 pm
by t1MMy
Should have learnt ya lesson the 1st time.

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:43 pm
by Sunboost
They don't crush anything.

Your car can be taken off you for good on the THIRD time, not the FOURTH.

First is 48 hours, second is 1 month or something and third offence is for good.

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:44 pm
by 93edxr6
what happens the 4th time?

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:49 pm
by Steady
You get fukked in the arse courtesy of Victorias 'Justice' System?
Theres probably no set penalty for the 4th time, bar the set penalties for whatever offence you happen to be committing at the time you get busted.

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:50 pm
by t1MMy
93edxr6 wrote:what happens the 4th time?


No fourth time. You will more then likely be informed that you no longer have a drivers licence on the 3rd occasion
Then you find a pushy to get around on.

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:56 pm
by Steady
t1MMy wrote:
93edxr6 wrote:what happens the 4th time?


No fourth time. You will more then likely be informed that you no longer have a drivers licence on the 3rd occasion
Then you find a pushy to get around on.

So he will lose his license after the 3rd offence FFFFOOOOORRRR EEEVVVVAAAAAAAAAAAH?

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 1:59 pm
by t1MMy
Road Safety Act 1986 gave police the power to immediately impound or immobilise the car driven by a person they reasonably believe has committed a hoon-related offence.

Any driver committing a second hoon-related offence within three years may have their vehicle impounded for up to three months

And if a person is found guilty of three hoon-related offences inside three years, their vehicle can be permanently forfeited by the Court

Vehicles can be impounded, immobilised or confiscated if drivers commit any of the following hoon-related offences:
· Improper use of a motor vehicle, where the driver has intentionally caused one or more tyres to lose traction;
· Exceeding the speed limit by 45 kph or more (or travelling at over 145 kph in a 110kph zone);
· Engaging in a race or speed trial; and
· Repeat ‘drive whilst disqualified’ behaviour.

Police must also give the alleged offender 28 days notice before applying for the three month or permanent forfeiture, and the Magistrate must hear the views of all parties who are served such notice

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 2:11 pm
by Steady
You must have cut off the bit that covers the 4th offence within 3 years.

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 5:58 pm
by Frost
In NSW its different.

Its per vehicle.

So you get your car impounded twice your mate buys the car of you gets it impounded once and he looses it for life.

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 9:13 pm
by EFripin50&HSV
What about car mods in NSW can u get away with a set of 22s and darken taillights?

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2008, 9:21 pm
by Commando
no and no

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PostPosted: December 10th, 2008, 7:18 am
by Steady
Frost wrote:In NSW its different.

Its per vehicle.

So you get your car impounded twice your mate buys the car of you gets it impounded once and he looses it for life.

Have you got a reference for that information?
I know NSW is a shithole of a place full of idiots, but I find it hard to believe that they would plagiarise NFS Most Wanted when making their legislation.

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PostPosted: December 11th, 2008, 10:43 am
by edfairmont4.0
Steady wrote:
Frost wrote:In NSW its different.

Its per vehicle.

So you get your car impounded twice your mate buys the car of you gets it impounded once and he looses it for life.

Have you got a reference for that information?
I know NSW is a shithole of a place full of idiots, but I find it hard to believe that they would plagiarise NFS Most Wanted when making their legislation.


Amen. I hate nsw lol but I was in Newcastle biggest shithole in aus. 10 months I would like to forget.

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PostPosted: December 11th, 2008, 10:50 am
by Gozza
NSW is lovely place. whats so good about Victoria or Queensland

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PostPosted: December 11th, 2008, 10:56 am
by Steady
They don't have Sydney in them.

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PostPosted: December 11th, 2008, 10:58 am
by Gozza
I can agree on that. There more to NSW than Sydney. Just like there is more to Victoria than Kebabs and Muzzas and More to Queensland than shit drivers and dash melting weather

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PostPosted: December 11th, 2008, 1:12 pm
by Snaken
Steady wrote:They don't have Sydney in them.


HAHAHAHAHA

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PostPosted: December 11th, 2008, 3:39 pm
by edfairmont4.0
Steady wrote:They don't have Sydney in them.


Sydney or Newcastle.... fucking holes.

Id prefer exciting ADELAIDE over both 10000 fold

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PostPosted: December 11th, 2008, 6:57 pm
by Frost
Sorry Steady. Its the 3rd offence.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulati ... nouts.html


Motor vehicle sanctions

Under the current laws, NSW Police have the power to confiscate the car of a driver who commits a street racing or aggravated burnout offence. Under new measures to be introduced, police will have the additional options of clamping a vehicle, or giving the driver or registered operator of the vehicle a notice requiring that the vehicle be produced at a specified place within 10 days. If the vehicle is not produced a court imposed penalty of $2,200 can apply, and the RTA may suspend the vehicle’s registration for a period of 3 months.

Where a court finds a person guilty of a street racing offence or aggravated burnout offence as prescribed under sections 40 and 41(2) of the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Act 1999, the following will apply.

Where the driver is also the registered operator of the vehicle
In cases where the driver is the registered operator, the vehicle may be clamped or impounded for a period of 3 months for a first offence. For a second or subsequent offence, the vehicle may be forfeited to the Crown and may be sold or released to the RTA for crash testing (see below for more about crash testing).

Where the driver is not the registered operator of the vehicle
In cases where the driver is not the registered operator, the RTA may issue a suspension warning notice to the registered operator warning that if the same vehicle, or any other motor vehicle registered to that person, is used in a second offence, the registration of the vehicle used in a second offence may be suspended for a period of 3 months.

If a second offence is committed within 5 years after a suspension warning letter is given, the registration of the vehicle used in a second offence may be suspended for a period of 3 months. If a third or subsequent offence is committed within 5 years after a suspension warning letter is given, the vehicle used in the third or subsequent offence may be forfeited to the Crown to be sold or released to the RTA for crash testing (see below for more about crash testing).

In cases where the registration cannot be suspended by the RTA (eg. the registration is already suspended or has expired) the police will cause the vehicle to be clamped or impounded for a period of 3 months.

It is not intended that vehicle owners be penalised for the driving offence committed, but rather for failing to adequately supervise use of their vehicle on repeated occasions.
Crash testing by the RTA

Current laws already provide that the cars of repeat offenders may be forfeited to the Crown. Usually, those vehicles are sold and the money used to recover storage and collection costs. The new laws will allow certain forfeited vehicles to be released to the RTA for crash testing.

The RTA will use the unique tests to investigate the potential effects of certain modifications on overall crashworthiness and the wrecks of these vehicles will be displayed at education days for young drivers, or at other RTA presentations.


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I read that as the driver that owns the vehicle gets it impounded twice, and then his mate who brought it gets it impounded a 3rd time and he looses it.