Boosted Falcon

remember this POS they brought from America, in ... the late 90s I think it was?






Anyway, heres the 2010 model, from USA




vastly better looking these days imo, (although the rear is kinda muffed up) and the SHO model (pictured) sounds really good:


"the Taurus SHO features the new direct-injection 3.5-litre EcoBoost twin-turbocharged V6 engine which reportedly develops 272kW at 5500rpm and 474Nm from 3500rpm.

This power is channelled through a six-speed 6F55 SelectShift transmission with a sophisticated torque-sensing All-Wheel Drive System.

The SelectShift combines typical automatic operations as well as paddle controls for spirited driving which allow “match-rev” downshifts and will hold manually selected gears for precise control."



Anyway, this is the first time a Taurus has impressed me ... so I thought I'd share, hahaha...


PS: it impresses me, but not to the point that I'd be glad about rumors of the Taurus eventually replacing the Falcon becoming reality

Say hello to the new ford falcon after 2013

May as well be the first to say it won't impress me until it goes RWD.

Fark yeah give me a taurus!!

donno wrote:May as well be the first to say it won't impress me until it goes RWD.

Ford USA will more than likely never make the standard Taurus RWD unfortunatly ....
AWD does the job for their sports 'SHO' model though I guess.

looks all right.... and at least if its awd then it wont be hard to make it rwd...

sorta looks like aurion in parts though...

HELL YEAAHHH!! maybe once im off my P's AWD + 272kw+decent tune=aw gawd dam.

The shifter looks like the throttle of the Airbus A380

the new taurus does look good.
which is odd for a US family car

Looks heaps better than the last one for sure. Still don't think it could successfully replace the falcon however. Apparently they tried that on last time....

Not a fan.

And we wont need to worry about it replacing the falcon for a while. Because its unlikely.

But, imagine if the XR6T got that motor!

Frost wrote:Say hello to the new ford falcon after 2013

i agree
seems like fords answer to the caddilac

i love the front end, looks pretty pimp

When I saw the thread I thought oh no.. not another front wheel drive shitbox.

Pleasantly surprised! Looks tough from the front.

It look sreally nice from the front....dare i say it....it actually looks tough for a Taurus.....neva thought id say that about a Taurus in my lifetime!!!

But yea it'll neva replace da falcon! The only thing that may replace the falcon are its little sisters the mondeo, focus and fiesta bc of stupid petrol!!!!!!!

misk wrote:

Frost wrote:Say hello to the new ford falcon after 2013

i agree
seems like fords answer to the caddilac

Not really. Its not really a luxury vehicle. But it does have a lot of nice features, and a pretty good looking interior.

But because of the current world financial crisis, Holden confirmed the other week that they wont be bringing Cadillac here after all anyway ....

Nikk O'lass wrote:But, imagine if the XR6T got that motor!

It will, after 2013, unless Ford Australia decide to devlop their inline 6 further .... which I hope they do. Because the barra inline six is such a beast of an engine.

Frankly, I think the yanks should be using OUR engine. Wouldnt quite fit in mid size all wheel drive sedans though I imagine, lol.

just out of curiousity wtf is with Ford America and their novalty sized auto shifters?
That thing looks like it would take up my EB's center console, I remember driving a friend of mines GT500 and the thing had a shifter bigger then my hand in it.

Aych Es Vee wrote:

misk wrote:

Frost wrote:Say hello to the new ford falcon after 2013

i agree
seems like fords answer to the caddilac

Not really. Its not really a luxury vehicle. But it does have a lot of nice features, and a pretty good looking interior.

But because of the current world financial crisis, Holden confirmed the other week that they wont be bringing Cadillac here after all anyway ....

i was more referring to the size
most cars have similar luxury features these days anyway

Well fords idea of using the FG as the tarus just went out the door. Maybe the yanks didnt like it

[Sterling] wrote:HELL YEAAHHH!! maybe once im off my P's AWD + 272kw+decent tune=aw gawd dam.

I have heard you say "once im off my P's" so many times just get a boosted falcon already. Its not illegal till you get caught!!

Frost wrote:Well fords idea of using the FG as the tarus just went out the door. Maybe the yanks didnt like it

unfortunatly that idea went while they were still developing the FG Falcon.
..... Ford Australia didnt want to spend (or didnt have the money to spend) money on developing the car for left hand drive.

I wish they'd export the Falcon to other right hand drive markets though. At least England, and maybe even Japan.

Aych Es Vee wrote:..... Ford Australia didnt want to spend (or didnt have the money to spend) money on developing the car for left hand drive.

I wish they'd export the Falcon to other right hand drive markets though. At least England, and maybe even Japan.

I believe it was because Ford Aus. weren't given the cash injection needed from Ford Global that was required to fully engineer for LHD, I was working for Ford on the FG at the time and that was basically what we were told, that the business case for LHD wasn't good enough to attract the cash injection so it had to be scrapped.
Also I don't think there is a very big market in Japan for a large Aussie car and England is more inclined towards mondeo sized cars, but i may be wrong.

On topic I reckon that Taurus looks pretty good, especially the front, the rear doesn't disgust me but I reckon it looks like the Aurion crossed with a WRX, but maybe thats just me!

If this did ever replace the falcon (hopefully it would still roll off the Australian production line), then I reckon the worst marketing move Ford could do is continue calling it the Taurus, it would need to be slightly re-styled and re-named for Australia to help distinguish it from the overseas models so that the crowd who think "holdens are more Australian than Ford because Holden are not american" can be fooled into thinking that it is an "Australian" car.

Russ. wrote:

Aych Es Vee wrote:..... Ford Australia didnt want to spend (or didnt have the money to spend) money on developing the car for left hand drive.

I wish they'd export the Falcon to other right hand drive markets though. At least England, and maybe even Japan.

I believe it was because Ford Aus. weren't given the cash injection needed from Ford Global that was required to fully engineer for LHD, I was working for Ford on the FG at the time and that was basically what we were told, that the business case for LHD wasn't good enough to attract the cash injection so it had to be scrapped.
Also I don't think there is a very big market in Japan for a large Aussie car and England is more inclined towards mondeo sized cars, but i may be wrong.

On topic I reckon that Taurus looks pretty good, especially the front, the rear doesn't disgust me but I reckon it looks like the Aurion crossed with a WRX, but maybe thats just me!

If this did ever replace the falcon (hopefully it would still roll off the Australian production line), then I reckon the worst marketing move Ford could do is continue calling it the Taurus, it would need to be slightly re-styled and re-named for Australia to help distinguish it from the overseas models so that the crowd who think "holdens are more Australian than Ford because Holden are not american" can be fooled into thinking that it is an "Australian" car.

I also love how all the "experts" think Holden is so Aussie....Aren't/weren't they all based on Opels anyway?

dan1_721 wrote:I also love how all the "experts" think Holden is so Aussie....Aren't/weren't they all based on Opels anyway?

Thats what good marketing can do! The worst decision Ford Aus. ever made was to keep the Ford name, instead of something "uniquely Australian" like calling it Holden instead of GM Aus.

Another good example is both Ford and Holden are going to start building a small car locally, Ford said "we will build the focus in Australia", Holden said "We will build a small car in Australia". Ford are admitting that they are effectively duplicating an overseas car in their local plants, but while Holden are making a "new small car" which will be a duplicate of some other platform just as the Aus Focus will be, but they do a better job at hiding that from the masses to keep the patriotic image.
If Taurus replaces Falcon I hope they dont call it the Taurus!

dan1_721 wrote:I also love how all the "experts" think Holden is so Aussie....Aren't/weren't they all based on Opels anyway?

Every Commodore was based on an Opel counterpart up until the VE.
VE was entirely developed in Australia gladly. (as was the new Camaro too actually!)

But the 1978 Commodore was identical to the Opel Commodore in terms of looks. Aussie version was stronger to accomodate more powerful engines.
Each version of the Commodore got more and more different from the Opel Omega/Senator/Commodore as time went by.
By the time the VT/VX/VY/VZ series came along, all that was similar was pretty much the doors, a, b, and c pillar. Aussie version was far more superior.

To be fair to the Opels though, they put IRS in their 'Opel Senator' (1984 - 1988 VK and VL Commodores were based off this), but Holden kept the old setup in the VK and VL instead for some reason, and didnt introduce IRS into the Holden Commodore untill the mid 90s.

i would have thought the japanese would love a turbo falcon. imagine the mods they would do

Pretty sure the Japs all want light weight cars

This taurus should get good traction with AWD, has a decent sized engine... I rekon there will be a lot of after market parts for the engine too, if there isn't already.... will be interesting seeing what the American tuners do with it...

imagine if these 500+rwkw falcons had AWD... the traction they would have... wonder what 1/4 mile times they would get

A few point regarding the speculation of this being the next falcon.

-The taurus is built on the mondeo platform, and are similer in size, Australia allready has the Mondeo, so they won't need this.
-The Falcon provides Utes and the territory, if the falcon goes so do these cars.
-the 2013 date is also unlikly for model change, most model cycles last 10 years. So the next one is due in 2018.

Its fair to say that the falcon will loose its current engines soon, the i6 is certain till 2012 (to must best knowlage). After that we might see the v6 under the bonnet.

^^^^

Also, I always hear; "as long as the Mustang is RWD, so will the Falcon, because they'll end up using the same platform"

The BA/BF was recycled within 6 years?

Frost wrote:The BA/BF was recycled within 6 years?

Remember the BA was a major facelift for the AU, complete with mostly new mechanicals. So it was really 10 years. I think Ford once said 8 years is the standard time for a model change. It seems it's been going for a bit longer recently. I reckon with the FG it'll have a couple of minor facelifts, and one major one (aka EF and BA) before the next model comes out.

FG is also a MAJOR mechanical upgrade of the BA/BF. Not TOTALLY new.

Theres a TOTALLY new platform, SUPPOSED to be out 2012/2013. Codenamed 'Huntsman'. But maybe thats been scrapped, I dont know?

Aych Es Vee wrote:^^^^

Also, I always hear; "as long as the Mustang is RWD, so will the Falcon, because they'll end up using the same platform"

There was a plan not so long ago for a global large rear wheel drive platform to be developed, which was part of the Orion project (FG) but that was scrapped afaik
Australia was going to be the global development centre for this platform i.e. we design it, every other Ford corp. builds it, but as said i think it was scrapped

i dont mind the taurus nice inside and i dont see the outside of a car when i drive it lol its every one else who see's it. wasnt the bf a quicky till the fg was ready kinda the the ed was a quicky till the ef was out? not saying the eds a bad car i love mine boxy shape like ea and eb but all the fun of the ef lol

Aych Es Vee wrote:FG is also a MAJOR mechanical upgrade of the BA/BF. Not TOTALLY new.

Theres a TOTALLY new platform, SUPPOSED to be out 2012/2013. Codenamed 'Huntsman'. But maybe thats been scrapped, I dont know?

Fg was ment to be 80-90% new...Like going from a EL to a AU

Huntsman is canselled, it was the GRWD project.

Sorry to bring up an old thread of mine, but I went to the US in October 2009, and saw a few of these in the dealerships.... I was VERY surprised to see how big they were. Externally seeming 300C size.