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Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 7:56 am
by galapogos01
http://www.theage.com.au/national/man-t ... -8nfw.html
A FATHER whose car exploded, killing his eight-year-old son and severely burning his three other children, is suing mechanics who installed and checked its faulty LPG system.
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Mr Clay, a tyre fitter, bought the car from his former boss at the Bridgestone Tyre Centre in Doveton, mechanic David Beaney. He said he insisted on the LPG system being checked because Mr Beaney had installed it himself, so Mr Beaney arranged a mobile gas cylinder tester, Gary Martin, to come to their workplace.

Mr Clay is also suing a third man, Stephen Young, who gave the Ford Falcon a roadworthy certificate.

Terence Casey, QC, for Mr Clay, said the backyard LPG conversion was described as "dreadful" by a forensic scientist, who found an incorrectly fitted fuel line had cracked and released gas into the car.


Look out for dodgy installs!

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 8:01 am
by Barnsy
Moral of the story get a licensed fitter to install your lpg setup

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 8:02 am
by Dansedgli
I hate reading sht like this. My 2nd gas tank is right behind my front seats. 200 litres of the stuff would go boom pretty good.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 8:14 am
by EFFalcon
is this an old story?

suprised they couldn't smell it?

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 8:36 am
by galapogos01
it happened a little while back, but the legal case is just happening now.

i guess you can only smell large enough quantities...?

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 8:38 am
by EFFalcon
i dunno... you can smell it pretty bad when you've just finished filling the car :P

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 8:44 am
by Commando
Yeah, with the initial discharge upon releasing the trigger, it's an obvious smell inside the car. If there were a significant leak, you'd think the smell would be overpowering? If my car suddenly smelt very strongly of gas I'd pull the fukk over & run!

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 9:19 am
by Sunboost
Happened at least 5 years ago from memory. It was a XF, and he had just filled up gas after picking up the kids from their mum's house. The kid that died told his dad he could smell gas but his dad lit a cigarette anyway and the XF went kaboom.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 9:27 am
by Gozza
owned

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 9:37 am
by TUFED6
If the guy is a smoker he probably doesn't have much of a sense of smell. What a fuckhead anyway for smoking in the car with his kids in the back seat.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 9:38 am
by Dezza
Sundeep wrote:Happened at least 5 years ago from memory. It was a XF, and he had just filled up gas after picking up the kids from their mum's house. The kid that died told his dad he could smell gas but his dad lit a cigarette anyway and the XF went kaboom.

Well, if this is the case, the dad doesn't deserve a cent. Sure it's bad he lost a child and had a couple more injured but what kind of moron would light up a cigarette after being told they can smell gas.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 9:57 am
by Allen
I disagree Dez, he had every right to light a smoke in his car.

The fact that he did it with kids in the car saying they can smell gas makes him a dickhead, but it all boils down to the fact the car wasn't safe, and yet got passed for a RWC & the Gas cylinder check.

Its the "Professionals" in this case that did a sub standard job and as a result has indirectly killed a child and injured others. The cigarette was just the catalyst for it.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 10:04 am
by EFFalcon
wonder if he went for a dodgy RWC on purpose?

also... since when do mobile LPG tank testers check the whole install?
its not their job to check the whole car, they check/test the cylinder,stamp it and thats their job done.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 11:11 am
by LTDHO
The guy sounds as dodgy as the gas conversion, now he's trying to make a dollar of it.

IMO - no one should smoke in a car with children.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 11:57 am
by Dezza
Fairlane_Ghia wrote:I disagree Dez, he had every right to light a smoke in his car.

The fact that he did it with kids in the car saying they can smell gas makes him a dickhead, but it all boils down to the fact the car wasn't safe, and yet got passed for a RWC & the Gas cylinder check.

Its the "Professionals" in this case that did a sub standard job and as a result has indirectly killed a child and injured others. The cigarette was just the catalyst for it.

What I meant was he did have the right to light one up, but it's just stupidity to light it up AFTER being told that it smells like gas.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 12:28 pm
by galapogos01
I think the issue with the gas release must be related to the relief valve venting gas into the boot instead of outside, and therefore it got into the cabin. How else would filling it let gas into the car? Hence the claims about the tank inspector not doing a proper job.

Either way the dodgy installers should be stopped - whether the guy is a dick for smoking or not the car was still made unsafe by the same people.

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 2:22 pm
by Frost
the tank should have a releif valve on it, and there should be in a sealed unit with its only outside air contact a tube out the side of the unit to under the car

Re: Bodgy LPG installs

PostPosted: March 4th, 2009, 4:45 pm
by SnipeZ
im pretty sure its illegal to install gas systems without having aw cert 4 in gas fitting and your a registed gas fitter :S
the mechanic who did the road worthy should have checked if there was a gas compliance plate also...

feel sorry for the bloke :(