Boosted Falcon

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 11:00 am**

http://www.streetperformance.com.au/article-5--0-0.html

Turbo boys, tell us what you think.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 11:05 am**

crap arse wastegate.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 11:21 am**

like that say after the price, it is prity cheap....

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 11:22 am**

Looks half decent. Master Power turbos are a good option- wont disintegrate like the Chinese ones.

You can get decent results using a log manifold.

The kit doesn't mention any kind of inlet or intercooler plumbing, so budget for some more dollars there I guess.

I haven't used the (chinese?) HKS copy wastegates, but I guess EFFalcon reckons they are shit and is probably speaking from experience?

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 11:51 am**

$1650 for the majority of a kit bar cooler and exhaust/dump pipe sounds pretty damn cheap.
Thats about half you pay for snort or other kits.
Considering people dont want to spend huge amounts to turbo their e-series that should be pretty popular!

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 12:10 pm**

my wastegate appears to be leaking.
Jared (onereded) had similar issues with the same wastegate.
unless some of the newer ones are better.

it is cheap, some people pay that much for a turbo and oil lines, this u get a manifold too.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 12:54 pm**

So is the turbo alright, or would you be better off paying more for something better?

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 1:02 pm**

I read somewhere that the cheap knockoff HKS waste gates are pretty much the same bodies but with cheap internals, when they fail just replace the internal parts with genuine HKS parts.

Although probably best just to get a good name brand one to start with, I know I have decided to stick to all TurboSmart gear when things need replacing on my car.

If stuff is cheap enough though and you can get 12 to 24 months out of it before having to replace it, that could be acceptable.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 1:06 pm**

XRated wrote:So is the turbo alright, or would you be better off paying more for something better?

The turbo is ok the SLOWEB has a masterpower turbo and have not had a problem with it.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 1:13 pm**

i'd happily use that turbo/manifold.
i'd just seek a replacement for the wastegate.
which equals a few extra hundred bucks!

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 2:29 pm**

sent the guys an e-mail to find out more and if theres a possibility of a group buy, i think we'd need some definate numbers before anything progressed further but this is what he gave me so far

Intercooler is an extra $200 - 600x300x76Piping (Aluminium with joiners) is an extra $250. However, these are not measured for fitment, so extra modification of the piping may be needed. As a kit $1950 with intercooler and piping. (Non group buy) With regards to the group buy, I would have to check with the supplier of the manifold, but yes I believe we could do a group buy. $1499pp for the base kit, turbo, manifold, wastegate, oil lines.. MINIMUM of 6 buyers $1850pp with cooler and aluminium piping. MINIMUM of 6 buyers Problem is with suppliers, but if you start an EOI and get some solid numbers I will get back to you with the status mate.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 2:40 pm**

umm, o so tempting...

personally i would still prefer a 6Boost or Snort manifold....

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 2:53 pm**

Do it!

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 3:25 pm**

oh, i am considering... trust me. i have spent hours at work investigating things that i need.

my problem with the AU motor is the compression.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 3:52 pm**

OED666 wrote:my problem with the AU motor is the compression.

Say the magic words: "Decomp plate"

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 4:00 pm**

even then, it will be over 9.1 compression...

i think i need BA pistons and rods...

some dude is selling them on ebay, but its local pickup only, and he is in Melb.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 5:03 pm**

OED666 wrote:even then, it will be over 9.1 compression...

i think i need BA pistons and rods... some dude is selling them on ebay, but its local pickup only, and he is in Melb.

Buy them and pay for them. I will pick them up and the Vic government will pay for postage to get them to you. + you will owe me a drink when you come to Melbourne.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 5:49 pm**

OED666 wrote:oh, i am considering... trust me. i have spent hours at work investigating things that i need.

my problem with the AU motor is the compression.

Hi comp+boost FTW, Tristan (ebmanul) made 206rwkw on 7 pound on his stock AU motor

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 6:08 pm**

Would the BA rods and pistons go straight into an E-Series 4.0l block? What compression would it bring it up to? Would the crank fit? Heh.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 6:31 pm**

I wouldn't worry about hi-comp. Look at the LS1's- 10:1 comp ratio and they still love boost.

Needing low comp to run boost is a myth. If you drop it too much you'll just make it a slug off boost.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 6:34 pm**

XRated wrote:Would the BA rods and pistons go straight into an E-Series 4.0l block? What compression would it bring it up to? Would the crank fit? Heh.

BA (or AU) rods & pistons slot straight in, but you might need to cut a valve relief to suit the positioning of the SOHC valves (in the case of BA). You have to use AU/BA pistons with AU/BA rods though- they have the gudgeon pin positioned closer to the deck face than an E-series piston.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 6:44 pm**

Mmm well that makes the ones on eBay very tempting

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 6:48 pm**

what CR do standard XR6T's have ?

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 7:02 pm**

ahha. the boys over at AFF are already onto this. so would any stock internals have to be changed to run this? (eb engine- 200,000'ks auto)

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 8:28 pm**

XRated wrote:Mmm well that makes the ones on eBay very tempting

Dont even think about it...

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 8:49 pm**

TUFED6 wrote:
XRated wrote:Would the BA rods and pistons go straight into an E-Series 4.0l block? What compression would it bring it up to? Would the crank fit? Heh.

BA (or AU) rods & pistons slot straight in, but you might need to cut a valve relief to suit the positioning of the SOHC valves (in the case of BA). You have to use AU/BA pistons with AU/BA rods though- they have the gudgeon pin positioned closer to the deck face than an E-series piston.

how hard is it to do what ever for the valve relief???

i just heard back from the guy off ebay... the rods and pistons have done 30 thousand k's

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 8:56 pm**

i have a snort manifold/gate/screamer to get rid of i want a tuned length one now for the positioning of my new turbo. (had a T04e oringinally)

the kits seems pretty cheap for a T70. i just paid 1g for a T70 off a mate, he had two that he was gonna put on his 350 but now im using one on my falcon and so is he ( i converted him

) and considering i would sell my stuff ive never even used for roundabout 500-600 its reasonably cheap for a brand new kit.

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 9:02 pm**

what brand gate?

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 9:55 pm**

Its just been confirmed on AFF by Owen (the guy that runs the site, boostdef) that the turbo is NOT a master power, but he's trying to get specs off the distributor. For the price, my money is on cheap chinese knockoff. Bad news for you guys, but makes me feel a lot better about the deal I got

(s/h but new kkk 600r, wastegate, oil lines, dump and screamer pipes from older snort kit $900).

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 10:43 pm**

To fit BA rods and pistons you need to run an AU block and crank as the offset is diffrent to the eseries 4L

Posted: **September 12th, 2007, 11:27 pm**

Thanks Al.

So if you get an AU engine it's fairly straight forward getting the BA rods and pistons in? What sort of compression would you be looking at? Has anyone actually done this, or is it all theory?

Posted: **September 13th, 2007, 3:08 am**

Gunns wrote:To fit BA rods and pistons you need to run an AU block and crank as the offset is diffrent to the eseries 4L

im pretty sure you dont need an AU block because I ran AU Rods and Pistons in an EF block which i rebuilt for my ED but never ended up installing. It all turned over fine and the guy who bought it installed it in his EF with no drama's. the BA conrods are the same size as the AU from memory.

Posted: **September 13th, 2007, 8:39 am**

Ef_frmnt wrote:i have a snort manifold/gate/screamer to get rid of i want a tuned length one now for the positioning of my new turbo. (had a T04e oringinally)

the kits seems pretty cheap for a T70. i just paid 1g for a T70 off a mate, he had two that he was gonna put on his 350 but now im using one on my falcon and so is he ( i converted him ) and considering i would sell my stuff ive never even used for roundabout 500-600 its reasonably cheap for a brand new kit.

Talk to me skrotum!!! I am interested.

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