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Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 11th, 2010, 12:22 pm
by ZEROPSI
Rollin wrote:I think the problem with nitrous is it's not a good idea to get on and off the throttle with it, it can cause backfires through the intake and stuff. Maybe if you had port injected n2o and a really good controller for it you could get away with it... :scratch:

You could just put a windsor in if you wanted more power.


Don't the D1GP run nitrous? I can't imagine it being safe to do so with your average dry kit though.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 11th, 2010, 12:47 pm
by suspect
ZEROPSI wrote:
I'm sure you've been around the block a few times. You'd be almost a pro at picking out fellow homosexuals. But sadly, you're wrong this time. I smash more box than suspects eb.



AY! Dont you bring my box smashing skills into this! Besides, I think Rollin beats me in Box smashing!

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 11th, 2010, 12:48 pm
by NUT347
NUT347 wrote:For this zeropsi bloke the gaymeter is up there too.


I'm sure you've been around the block a few times. You'd be almost a pro at picking out fellow homosexuals. But sadly, you're wrong this time. I smash more box than suspects eb.[/quote]

Lol.

That sort of comment reminds me of the children taunt "I know you are but what am I?"

Your a arse ramming tryhard that probably couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dogs arse, so Stfu.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 11th, 2010, 1:26 pm
by ZEROPSI
NUT347 wrote:
NUT347 wrote:For this zeropsi bloke the gaymeter is up there too.


I'm sure you've been around the block a few times. You'd be almost a pro at picking out fellow homosexuals. But sadly, you're wrong this time. I smash more box than suspects eb.


Lol.

That sort of comment reminds me of the children taunt "I know you are but what am I?"

Your a arse ramming tryhard that probably couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dogs arse, so Stfu.[/quote]

Although it was you that brought in the gay jokes, you don't think thats a childrens taunt? More so the reply of calling me a arse ramming tryhard? That's not childish? I think you need to take a long look at yourself buddy, you're the one that's acting offended here..I 'll leave this comment then head of into the world without a second thought about your comments. Where as I'm sure you'll be back with more distasteful "insults" and your buddies will try to back you up, when the only person who realises actually how much of a loser you're making yourself out to be.

Cheers, Tim.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 11th, 2010, 2:11 pm
by BI6TIM
Rollin wrote:I think the problem with nitrous is it's not a good idea to get on and off the throttle with it, it can cause backfires through the intake and stuff. Maybe if you had port injected n2o and a really good controller for it you could get away with it... :scratch:

I can certainly understand those concerns but I think this is one of those cases where theory and practice aren't quite the same.

I'm not a 'nitrous guy' as such, I will never put nitrous on my skyline for example, but I would love to put it on matt's eb and see how it goes at a Friday night QR practice.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 11th, 2010, 3:41 pm
by CaRtZ
cant u set nitrous to activated at certain throttle positions? id look more at 70-75% throttle. would be interesting to see it done but not as effectie as a turbo setup due to having to refill bottles, backfires as mentioned etc.

can we keep it on topic??

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 11th, 2010, 7:53 pm
by BI6TIM
This is on topic. Fitting nitrous to your car would be part of setting up the car for drifting. You can not focus on only one area of the car for it to be an effective drifter.

Cartz, do you have any other videos of you drifting on a track?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 11th, 2010, 8:29 pm
by bushman
Nitrous backfires are most commonly caused by human error, meaning that dumb **** shouldn't be using oxidising agents, at the drags, a nitrous backfire is generally caused when someone stalls their car and forgets that they have to turn off the nitrous, on their solenoid operated nitrous system before starting the car, now the solenoid activates the nitrous at what ever throttle position it is set to inject nitrous into the motor at, which at the strip is full throttle, and the poor basterd in his haste to restart his shitta puts the foot flat forgeting about the giggle gas, and when the motor fires it has a belly full of nitrous and pretty well explodes resulting in you no longer having a bonnet or intake manifold. the rest of nitrous caused from a bad setup or running to much nitrous for the given amount of fuel, or running a "too" big of a shot of nitrous and bending or breaking rods.

It is not the product, its the application and the set up that causes blown motors and wallets when using nitrous.

*Note NUT347 Has actually been around the block a few times, most recently in an awesome Mq short wheel base patrol with a small block ford engine :)

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 12th, 2010, 10:28 am
by CaRtZ
how reliable is n2o? does it develop problems frequently or can u set it up and forget about it? fair enough to use it in a straight line for a few seconds but how would it hold up out on a hot track all day?

BI6TIM, a mate has a lost memory card in his house with more vidz on it so no, not really. hoping to get back on track on the 17th october with budget turbo setup

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 12th, 2010, 10:41 am
by krisisdog
In the long run I'd think a mild turbo setup would be better, refilling n2o would slowly add up if you're a regular competitor. That and it'd be much easier to control rather than getting a kick out of nowhere regardless of rpm..

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 13th, 2010, 2:20 am
by Another_ef
I think nitrous would make things worse than do much more good, i think adding boost would be more simple than adding nitrous to a drift car

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 13th, 2010, 10:44 am
by CaRtZ
hard to tell if no1 has done it...

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 21st, 2010, 3:00 pm
by ausedwagon
whens the next off street drift day?

are there any open days or fun days. wouldnt mind getting the wagon out on a track rather than risk getting booked on the street... lwb wagon drifting!!

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 22nd, 2010, 5:02 am
by CaRtZ
Winton, VIC

open drift practice: 17th Oct. (last open practice day for 2010, there is Vic Drift member's only 4th Sept. and 11th Dec.)

Fun day: 12th Dec

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 23rd, 2010, 3:02 pm
by ausedwagon
has anyone ever taken there e series wagon out to drift?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 29th, 2010, 3:02 pm
by Another_ef
How good are your shockies on your leaf springs? I've seen wagons drift before man it looks cool, but i've never seen an e series wagon sliding

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 29th, 2010, 10:29 pm
by CaRtZ
havent seen a e series wagon, i used to have a go with my wag back in its glory days but the auto was a big fail... there's an XF ute that does really well

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 30th, 2010, 1:03 am
by Another_ef
I've seen a blue xf ute with a turbo au motor in it and lpg system drift fine and never struggled once or axle tramped. Melbourne plates on it and he knew what he's doing with it too :)

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 30th, 2010, 8:59 pm
by pimpke
his names john dreyer, he moved to qld though so no more skids at winton for a while.
here's a vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLhTh3ze ... re=related
his on his 3rd or 4th engine now, keeps melting pistons.
back in 2008 he came 3rd running on 5 cylinders at tassie, that was the last event i saw him at..

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 30th, 2010, 9:15 pm
by bentls
yeah johns a gun, he was at powercruise i hear....

http://vimeo.com/6543905

thats how its done

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Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 30th, 2010, 9:37 pm
by ed40
love that fucken ute and how its driven

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 30th, 2010, 11:48 pm
by Rollin
It does look bloody tough! Any pics of the wheels with the car stationary? They look like black sunraysias or something :scratch:

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 31st, 2010, 12:02 am
by bentls
They are. Read under the pics lol.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 31st, 2010, 12:57 am
by krisisdog
He's got a mad sticker on the side of it too - "Offset - Learn It" lol. He was easily one of the best out on track, pwnd all them jap bangers haha.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 31st, 2010, 10:43 pm
by Another_ef
There negative offset sunrasias i think 16 or 17x8's or 9's on the rear and i think 7's on the front, last i saw it it had a ford drifting team sticker on the back window too

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 31st, 2010, 10:44 pm
by Dansedgli
How does it sit so flat through the corners?

Whats he done to the rear?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: August 31st, 2010, 10:58 pm
by krisisdog
It pretty much looks like zero suspension travel all round when hes out drifing lol, skateboard spec.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: September 1st, 2010, 9:36 am
by Another_ef
Yeah it looks like it doesn't move it has body roll but like 2 5th's of f@%k all, the only time i saw the body move was when it went over a ripple strip the car bounced and that was it!.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: September 1st, 2010, 9:50 pm
by bigdell
Another_ef wrote:There negative offset sunrasias i think 15x8's or 9's on the rear and i think 7's on the front, last i saw it it had a ford drifting team sticker on the back window too

they look like 17's to me.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: September 1st, 2010, 11:26 pm
by Another_ef
Cant remember exactly i know there bigger than standard sorry i'll edit the post :)

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: September 1st, 2010, 11:35 pm
by CaRtZ
still runnin leaf's, pretty sure there's a few extras in there n no doubt some sweet shocks n roll bars

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: September 19th, 2010, 8:07 pm
by bushman
Be smooth on the wheel and you get good feelings, Be smooth with woman also get good feelings.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: February 28th, 2011, 9:54 am
by kustum
BI6TIM wrote:
lawler wrote:Or 25/30 a bit of stuffing to get it to handle right

No such thing as handling right with a 6cyl in an S-chassis car. My 200 will never have anything other than SR20 in it. If it breaks again while drifting it will not drift again, simple.

Back on topic of handling, if you want to greatly improve the handling of your falcon, put an SR20 in it! Throw some Pedders coil overs in the front and my custom King springs and Oztec shocks in the back. 30mm front sway bar and 28mm rear bar (which I can also supply for you). That would be a sweat setup for drift.
All that stuff above would also be sweet in a falcon even without an SR20 :P


How did you know about the Pedders coilies? They didn't come out till Sept 2010?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: March 1st, 2011, 7:37 pm
by NUT347
Pedders coil overs came out for the front only in e series years ago. Read his posts properly.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: February 7th, 2012, 6:38 am
by OMY-747
Thinking of having a crack at this with the white manual eb wagon, mrs don't want it anymore. Wants something newer now we have a baby on the way. So it's either getting sold or I'm gonna skid it

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: March 28th, 2012, 12:09 pm
by 4ord4u
Rollin wrote:Fail. Can't do much with E-series. Maybe fit rack end spacers but I haven't bought a set to see if it's possible.

I reckon you could do some cool stuff with AU suspension but of course you have to fit it first :/


Hey Guys,

I brought lock spacers for my falcon, put them in, and only really achieved 4 degree more lock cause of my sway bar,

I have a set if you wanna try them rollin, if you put a 30mm spacer on you should be able to get the extra 15 degree more lock.

Would be awesome :)

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: March 28th, 2012, 2:18 pm
by OED666
the guy with the KE in the video is nuts!! the XF is pretty good too!

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: March 29th, 2012, 12:17 am
by SNR
My wheels already hit my swaybar! 4ord4u, try using bolt on spacers with e-series offset wheels and see if that gets you more lock? You might need to take your front quarter panels off to try, but it would be interesting.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: March 29th, 2012, 5:07 pm
by bentls
rack spacers and shorten your knuckles.. remove swaybar if its a big deal and get decent coilovers...

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: June 26th, 2012, 7:21 pm
by lawler
4ord4u wrote:
Rollin wrote:Fail. Can't do much with E-series. Maybe fit rack end spacers but I haven't bought a set to see if it's possible.

I reckon you could do some cool stuff with AU suspension but of course you have to fit it first :/


Hey Guys,

I brought lock spacers for my falcon, put them in, and only really achieved 4 degree more lock cause of my sway bar,

I have a set if you wanna try them rollin, if you put a 30mm spacer on you should be able to get the extra 15 degree more lock.

Would be awesome :)


We have fitted them to my mates. He has 18x9.5 +12 with 25mm spacers. It only touchs sway bar jacked up but no where near on the ground. Gained about an extra 10-15degs lock. Its done a couple of private test track runs and 2 laps of the track with out an issue.

It has almost has as much as my old r31 which had lock spacers, and s13 knuckles with 10mm cut out of them