Boosted Falcon

Posted: **October 20th, 2010, 11:07 pm**

Copied from: http://forum.streetfords.com.au/showthread.php?t=4975

Just seems too good to be true, and lets not get started on the dyno figure ay. But if it is true, you heard it from me first

I wonder how the ZF version would go, should be a fair bit quicker, can't wait to see what the aftermarket guys do with one of these.

Hi,

I just ran the new BOSS 335 GT at WSID tonight, it reeled of the following times.

This car is a 6 speed manual, and I did the times with the traction control turned off.

13.21@112.20mph

12.92@113.99mph :drivin: :worship:

13.66@108.59mph (tramping and spinning the tyres in 2nd)

13.96@96.44 (tramping and spinning the tyres in 2nd)

15.00@109.68mph (tramping and spinning the tyres in 1st and 2nd)

I will have pics and slips up tomorrow.

Times were run with the car weighing in at 1822kg WITHOUT driver.

I'm at least 120kg.

Full street trim, BP Ultimate, factory tyres (didn't let the tyre pressure down either)

No changes to the car at all from when I picked it up from Ford.

Here is the clincher, forget the decals on the gaurd that say 335, we dynoed the car on Gerry's Automotive Dyno Dynamics dyno prior to going to the track.

Gerry dynoed my XW and that has run the correct mph for the given rwhp my XW has, so there is no need for me to dispute these figures.

It did have Gerry and me scratching our heads though!

It spat out...353rwkw! That's 473.9rwhp! I'm not joking!

The worst run was 465rwhp.

We decided to check how much boost this car was REALLY making, it turns out it was more than the Ford quoted figure of 6psi.

It was 7.1psi at peak 473.9rwhp. Torque peaked at 1700N.

The 465rwhp run, it made 9.1psi.

Just imagine what the power will be when the aftermarket guys get hold of them?

Ford really has produced an animal here to hand HSV and other cars their backside on a silver platter!

Do yourself a favour and test drive one upon release.

Imagine this driveline in an early girl with about 250-300kg less weight = EVEN BIGGER WEAPON!

WELL DONE FORD!

I guess the days of Ford understating their power levels have made a return, ala 1970's style.

Come to think of it back then the Jap cars were 4 cylinders and fuel efficient while the Phase 3 guzzled it.

Today we have the Toyota Prius Hydrid using less fuel etc and Ford bringing back the BIFF!

I just hope it doesn't become another Supercar Scare...actually I do.

I better go order a 'green' BOSS 335 GT-H...

Cheers,

Roy

ps My time is 0.5 seconds quicker and 3mph faster than 'other' magazines!

Posted: **October 20th, 2010, 11:15 pm**

my first words as i seen it....get fucked lol that is quick, tuners are going to love this car

Posted: **October 20th, 2010, 11:16 pm**

I saw you reading that thread when I was! Some mint times there!

Posted: **October 20th, 2010, 11:23 pm**

wicksy wrote:my first words as i seen it....get fucked lol that is quick

Same haha. The dyno figure is the part that I still cant get over... an extra 20kw, at the wheels over whats quoted at the fly... I wonder why the boost varied so much though?

Posted: **October 20th, 2010, 11:31 pm**

i don't doubt the time... hopefully they can run high 12's. but the power??? i doubt that! it only ran 113mph, which ain't 350kw. My BA did 118mph with 325kw.. and it wouldn't be much lighter than an FG. i would say it has about 310rwkw.

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 12:02 am**

The way I'm reading it Ford have it right. 335kw at fly would be 270odd at rears.

My mates 5 speed ba gt made 270rwkw, and ran a 13.0 at 113 odd mph.

Seems like ford are quoting just fine??

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 12:02 am**

The way I'm reading it Ford have it right. 335kw at fly would be 270odd at rears.

My mates 5 speed ba gt made 270rwkw, and ran a 13.0 at 113 odd mph.

Seems like ford are quoting just fine??

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 1:40 am**

Test cars are always tuned accordingly

I red an autobiography by Dick Johnson and one of his first contracts was fitting bigger cams to Fiat's that were to be driven by journo's

So i'm not surprised that this car had more boost than quoted

The real test will be when someone buys one and takes that to the track and throws it on the dyno

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 9:09 am**

lol @ 350rwkw doing high 12's.

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 9:11 am**

and thats not to discredit the driver, its a heavy arse car.

just compare that to that kinda power in an eseries and it seems laughable.

ZF will be interesting!

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 9:16 am**

EFFalcon wrote:and thats not to discredit the driver, its a heavy arse car.

just compare that to that kinda power in an eseries and it seems laughable.

ZF will be interesting!

1822kg + 120kg driver... thats damn near two ton! fark me!... whats a hi spec e series? 1500-1600kg?

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 9:16 am**

Power figure sounds bullshit.

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 9:21 am**

i find it hard to believe that ford underquoted the power by about 80kw, when the mph vs weight it runs is fairly close to the claimed power.

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 9:52 am**

New Dyno. Seems figure is close

http://www.performanceforums.com/forums ... 047&page=2

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 10:04 am**

fair point on the pulley size

the GS should sell pretty good if the results are this good!

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 10:55 am**

Dansedgli wrote:New Dyno. Seems figure is close

http://www.performanceforums.com/forums ... 047&page=2

well ill be fucked.
brb, trading in ute.

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 11:21 am**

Dansedgli wrote:New Dyno. Seems figure is close

http://www.performanceforums.com/forums ... 047&page=2

That's mint, can't wait to buy one of these second hand in a few years

Like I said before, I can't wait till someone races a ZF one of these bad boys, everyone knows how hard these things are to race when they're manual should be a easy low 12 in it.

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 11:28 am**

lol thats pretty sick...
will be interesting to see the results of a show room spec car.

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 1:56 pm**

**** yes.... mint....

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 2:16 pm**

**** yes, might stop modding the wagon and just save for a second hand GS or GTE..

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 7:04 pm**

pHaT`eL wrote:**** yes, might stop modding the wagon and just save for a second hand GS or GTE engine and chuck it in..

lol
if i could stop wasting/spending money on modifing shit i'd love to have one! Sucks my BA has cost me so much its not really worth selling yet. ;-)

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 9:25 pm**

The only thing stopping me going out and wasting a fuckload of money on one right now is that they don't have a good looking variant

Here's hoping GTE will deliver in the looks dept or some other special with better wheels or sumps.

Loving the 12.9's in a manual!

Posted: **October 21st, 2010, 9:32 pm**

fark thats pretty cool for a stock car. hhmmm might have to sell my maloo and buy one of these bad boys

Posted: **October 22nd, 2010, 12:43 am**

I can see the second hand FPV market plummeting pretty soon...ah well, hopefully that translates to young kunts buying them, young kunts stacking them, and me getting a cheap F6 motor and box combo for the NC

Posted: **October 22nd, 2010, 8:24 pm**

Rollin wrote:I can see the second hand FPV market plummeting pretty soon...ah well, hopefully that translates to young kunts buying them, young kunts stacking them, and me getting a cheap F6 motor and box combo for the NC

Now thats the way we should be looking at it!

Cant stock fg xrt6's run high 12's?? No biggy!

Posted: **October 22nd, 2010, 8:37 pm**

yeah but its not a Blown 8 :-P

Posted: **October 22nd, 2010, 10:46 pm**

Exactly, so you save about 300 bucks a year on rego plus whatever extra you save on fuel

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 5:01 am**

Bargh who cares about fuel that's the last thing on my mind when buying a car as long as I can get above 450 on the highway I don't care

These new GTs are going to sell very quickly

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 7:39 am**

true, as good as the F6 is, the new 5.0 has *everything* going for it.

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 8:53 am**

*puts F6 for sale*

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 9:14 am**

I might have to eat my words on this thing. The drag times are impressive but I was more impressed with the footage from courtney driving it at bathurst.

I guess the other thing thats relevant to the quarter time is that it obviously has pretty intrusive traction/stability control that can likely be removed for better times on the strip.

They're making a GS ute right? *Sells ute*

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 10:14 am**

I loved the Courtney vid, gotta love the whine too. Even he was suprised with how it got up and moved when he got onto Conrod and put the boot in. GS will be the pick I reckon, subtle with a fair bit of go

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 10:40 am**

pHaT`eL wrote:I loved the Courtney vid, gotta love the whine too. Even he was suprised with how it got up and moved when he got onto Conrod and put the boot in. GS will be the pick I reckon, subtle with a fair bit of go

or g8e... that would be awesome

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 12:19 pm**

Where's the vid of courntey driving??

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 12:24 pm**

krisisdog wrote:http://media.smh.com.au/drive/car-news/240kmh-at-bathurst-in-falcon-gt-1973509.html

Taken for a run round Mt Panorama

From the coyote thread

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 7:00 pm**

You kents seen these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-KoOnCJ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L4yo9YG ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNwsz6RS ... re=related

I still prefer the sound of an F6/turbo I6 with gate but that sounds fucken sick. Can't wait for the first youtube video of a powerskid from one of these things from the side of the road, blower whine then exhaust roar as it goes past, kenne bell mustang style

wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW....

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 9:11 pm**

I'm just keen to hear how they sound with an aftermarket exhaust.

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 10:20 pm**

These dyno's need to be calibrated properly. Motor Magazine got 256rwkw for the GS. There is no way the GT is 320+rwkw. Just an example of tuners exaggerating to their prospective customers! They probably get 380rwkw out of an FG XR6T without changing the turbo too! Wankers! :evil:

Posted: **October 23rd, 2010, 10:29 pm**

dale and the PF forum are not the type to be caught up in any hype though...
if it gets the thumbs up from those **** its doing fkn well lol

Posted: **October 24th, 2010, 12:19 am**

jordandev wrote:These dyno's need to be calibrated properly. Motor Magazine got 256rwkw for the GS. There is no way the GT is 320+rwkw. Just an example of tuners exaggerating to their prospective customers! They probably get 380rwkw out of an FG XR6T without changing the turbo too! Wankers!

If you signed up to performance forums and read the thread, the response to the initial dyno was exactly that - everyone said get fucked.

Dales specific words were "bet it dosen't make 353rwkw on my dyno lol" so they took it to his workshop for the specific purpose of proving the other dyno wrong. Technically, they did, because the car only ran 328rwkw on his dyno....but it still made 328rwkw, which is a fanciful ~2% drivetrain loss of the claimed 335 flywheel kw, and a mega shitload of power for an apparently stock production falcon.

I'm also unsure as to why the tuners would exaggerate the dyno readings of a stock car, because that would mean the difference in the before and after dynos would not be as great, which would make them look less good than a massive difference in before/after.

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