Boosted Falcon

tuff as. before we had no gas powered cars running 9s. now over the last 2 months we have John's Orange mustang mid 9s and gas747 VL 9.7x.

Gas seems to be the new cheap way to run 9's!

Unfortunately not, but there are 2 Wednesday's left so I reckon we will see it again!

rat wrote:I just saw this bad boy run a 9.9!

new bottom end to
still carnt belive their mid 10 second passes where on an almost stock el bottom end
wait till next season bigger turbo more boost they want to see the 8 second barrier

The $8K kit supports 900hp and you can go higher for POA. The price is negotiable for lower power and those who would like to do their own installation work (or Part).

I'm not a Ford man, but I'm coming round after tuning the EA. Especially because it's fitted with a standard cam and is very streetable. The 9.9 was @ 136.77 with wheel spin and a misfire in third, which we have now corrected. If we race again this season it will be with a new set of slicks and should be quicker.

I work at ProFIRE, but my interest in forums and this car is as an enthusiast.

Welcome to the forums mate, results from this car are gonna be very interesting in the next few weeks/months.

Hello All

Just thought I would let you know we did not get another chance to run the car last season, but we are in the process of upgrading for a low 9 or dare I say an 8;

BF Engine with Atomic internals.
FG intake manifold
Billet 2 speed glide with transbrake
9" ladder bar rear end
GTX-4202

yeah saw it again today at the drags ran a 9 and then blew the head gasket.
Its also running a BF built motor, fg inlet manifold, GT42x and pushing 750rwhp.

That's a bummer!!! Would be interesting to see pictures of the engine bay...

9.62 last night with a gentle launch and back off at top end (testing new engine).

Any pics and vids ???

9.54 is the best time so far. We have paused to install a lighter LPG tank and remove metal from the body. Should be racing again in a few weeks.

I can't seem to post pics, maybe because I'm a newby to the forum. I will email a moderator.

We have added pics to our website; http://members.iinet.net.au/~mikejh/4L_EA.html

whats holding it back at the moment?
ie. is the power limit of the current gas system reached?
or is it just having trouble putting the current power level to proper use?

love the engine bay, looks so well put together and clean!

It weighed 3600lbs, a bit fat for 8seconds, it's been spinning the wheels off the line and we are easing up the power to avoid mishaps. It was also misfiring with the factory coils, the ICE coils and ignition booster have allowed a 1.2mm spark gap at 37PSI of boost and no more misfire.

We have adjusted the suspension to transfer more weight on the launch and lost 200lbs, which should drop 4 10ths. It's currently running 750rwhp with potential for 1000rwhp, once we get close to an 8 with the current power, we will raise the boost.

37psi? Heck!

Nice
Amazing what is possible with the gas systems now that people are figuring them out.

What are you doing with tank outlets?
Surely your not still using just 2?

We have upgraded to three lines from the tank. I used to think over 35 psi was too much, but the engine loves it. Now that we have a lot of LPG tuning experience with the Ford I6 and we can make more power than any road car will ever need, is there any need for petrol?

Still cant fill an LPG tank with a jerry can.

you can connect a BBQ gas bottle perfectly fine.
jerry can sorted...

how did you go about getting three outlets at the tank?

Legal fitment of three lines from the tank requires removal of one lockoff and fitment of a t-piece and two external lockoffs, this option still leaves you with two excess flow limiters. Removal of the flow limiter means you can't legally use the car on the road, but the regulators will usually authorise the mod for racing purposes. You can do the same for 4 lines (maybe a 2000hp Twin Turbo V8 for LPG).

We found that a legal two outlet tank can deliver up to 900hp at the flywheel and when tuning a car with this setup at 30psi;

El I6 forged internals
C4
T04Z
MT Street Semi Slicks
Mini Spool
100km/h
top gear
dry road
foot flat to the floor

I thought the car was miss firing (slight shudder), but soon realised the wheels were spinning. Therefore I don't think road cars need more than two outlets or removal of the flow limiter. APA will make an approved dual outlet tank for around $800 (used to be $700, but there prices have gone up). LPG Injectors and regulators have become much less expensive.

well with the older gas research setups, twin outlet, twin converter setups seemed to be limited to around 450rwkw.
i dunno what 900hp at the fly is as rwkw, but i'd assume pretty close.

have you run in to any issues with tank pressure effecting pressure at the regulator in turn impacting max hp achievable?

i know this can become an issue above 500rwkw with the older gas research setups, so im curious to know if and when this becomes an issue with the injected setups.

with the results the profile ECU controlled cars are getting its getting less and less desirable to use gas research!

also any chance on getting a pic and some info on how the belt setup is done on that car?
hard to tell but looks to be running an electric water pump, correct?

I still can't post pics. Our engine is running an electric water pump and a ribbed belt that is the exact right length for the alternator only and does not require a tensioner. Tank pressure has not been a problem (probably due to WA heat), but we are looking at doing some testing with NOS bottle warmers, because the tank only needs to be slightly warmer to keep the pressure up. 900fwhp is equivalent to 500rwkw (I'm from the metric school and our dyno reads in kw, but drag racing has converted me back to hp). The EA we are discussing is currently at 580rwkw on our Dyno Dynamics.

LPG carbys are good and straight forward, but an ECU is more readily adjusted, offers more accurate control and we have been using the inbuilt ProFIRE data logger to improve ET. Owners that have upgraded from carby to injection have reported smoother power delivery, improved lap times and better economy (while cruising to the track. Flat out needs lots of fuel from any system).

Full Specs;

EA Falcon
Ford BA Engine Balanced and Blue Printed
Forged Cosworth Pistons
Forged Atomic 998 Conrods
Crow Valve Springs
Ford Stainless Steel Valves
ARP Bolts throughout engine
Atomic Heavy Duty Cam Gears, Crank Sprocket and Cam Chain
Atomic Billet Oil Pump
Cometic MLS Head Gasket
14mm Head Stud Conversion
ACL Race Bearings
600 x 300 x 100 Front Mount Bar and Plate Intercooler
12 x Keihin Brown LPG Injectors
3 x Prins Reducers
APA Dual Outlet Tank
6 x ICE Ignition Coils
24V ICE Ignition Booster
ProFIRE 16/8 LPGT+ ECU
60mm Wategate
50mm Blow Off valve
70mm Billet Throttle Body
5" Intake and K&N Filter
FG Turbo Intake Manifold
6Boost Exhaust Manifold
2 x Custom Billet Fuel Rails
Custom 3.5" to 3" Intake Piping
Custom 4" Exhaust with Magnaflow 4" Muffler
Custom 6 point roll cage
Strengthened Chassis C section
McDonald Bros Racing Moly Ladder Bars
MT Drag Slicks
Weld Rims
Simpson 12" Parachute
Koni Adjustable Coilovers
52mm Alloy Radiator
Custom Coolant Reservoir and 19mm 30PSI Burst Valve and Tank
AU Electric Fans
Davies Craig Electric Water Pump - Engine
Davies Craig Electric Water Pump LPG - LPG Converters
AEM Water/Methanol Injection System
Power Bond SFI Balancer
Atomic SFI 10mm Flexplate
Garrett GTX-4202 1200 hp Turbo
Custom Allfast Torque Converter
Dellow BA to Powerglide Bell Housing
Powerglide Transmission with upgraded gears, clutches and input shaft.
Custom 4" drive shaft
B&M Pro shifter
Ford 9" Diff with billet carrier and strengthen housing.

The EA body was free, now it's worth a little more...

Nice setup bud!!

Does Prins have bigger reducers so you have less than 3 in the engine bay?

The Prins turbo reducer is the highest capacity that we have found. We mounted them on the passenger side chassis rail, so they can't be seen.

Can you post up some pictures of engine bay setup?

Thats looks awesome!!!

Love the Egas rocker cover hahahaha

Can you tell us more about the profire ecu?

I read somewhere it can plug into an E series harness with an adaptor and can control the BTR transmission?

The ProFIRE ECU is similar to petrol aftermarket ECUs, but the firmware has been optimised for LPG. Our system does not currently control the BTR; we are still working on this, however it's not a high priority because they are not strong enough for our requirements. Our three test Falcons have all been upgraded to Powerglide, C4 and T56 Magnum. I personally like the 6 speed manual and would like to put one in a 66 Mustang with LPG Turbo I6 (Tokyo Drift Australian Style).

We received our custom tank from APA today (24L twin outlet with internal surge baffles), so we should be racing again soon.

Can the Profire plug into the E series harness or needs a full rewire to engine?

Also how much RRP is the ecu?

this is awesome glad there are a few eseries going around running good times even running on lpg

Our ECU can replace the factory ECU in a manual with an adaptor loom. For autos we have a piggyback loom. Please email details of your specific requirements via the ProFIRE website for pricing (starts at $1100, the whole kit on the EA was $8000).

Any updates on this beast?

9.34 @ 148mph

That's what I like to see

Thats a pretty sweet car! Don't know about the police stickers tho lol

9.10 @ 144mph

Good times for such low mph! Good work!

It's hitting the rev limiter before the end of the track. Will tune for more rpm soon.

Congratulations. 8's not far off. Well done.