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entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi before en

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 6:46 pm
by my5.0l
hi just wonder if anyones got any tips the car is ea falcon 3.9 cpi

its actually the race car im building but want to blow the 3.9 up and kandos is now eligible for non engineered or registered cars so what better way?


its light because its already stripped, its minispooled, t5

im getting a alloy radiator, got el thermos

thinkin 4.11s

water spray on the radiator ?


engine oil cooler

it has a brake bias adjuster but will probly completely remove the back break lines as i want as little resistance as possible

as its a racecar its all gauges and warning lights so thats covered

do manual gearbox temps need to be monitored do they get hot?

keep in mind ill be using the racecar for powercruises and events like that aswell so it will see alot of skid duties with the new motor aswell

any other tips/ ideas?

it will be videoed and will enter every event the car lasts long enough to do as much as i dont care wen the motor blows i want to put on a good show

any secret tricks?

some ive heard

soak ur tyres in diesel

4wd tyres

extra water capacity

circuit or track sump for extra bafflin i beleive

a tap to shut of back brakes as apperantly the linelockers dont work that great

Re: dedicated burnout car

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 7:07 pm
by josh_ef
turbo it or dont bother

2nd gear skids are boring

real smoke is made from high wheel speed not big tyres n soaking tyres in diesel

delete the back brakes all together

Re: dedicated burnout car

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 7:28 pm
by my5.0l
i think your missin the point im not tryin to win summernats, i want to have some fun and kill a 3.9 cpi in the process

and makin a carby hat fit a standard 3.9 cpi just for one skid is gayer then elton johns boyfriend.

turbo it or dont bother? mate lots of n/a cars rip good skids if i wanted to be completely serious i wouldnt use anything but a v8

second gear is fine as i said its not summernats all anyone wants to see is smoke wether it be from the failed head gasket or tyres

you can change the wheel speed by using different size tyres

and lets face it no1 ever cares what skid you can pull unless its a noisy v8

so no i wont waste my turbo on a motor i want to kill

as for 2nd gear id be surprised if it will spin second its a 3.9 cpi ,limiter in first might have to do lol

have you been on a pad before? ive seen many cars that can pull a mean skid on the road not even be able to spin on the wet patch it gets pretty sticky

i thought there may have been someone on here with a dedicated burnout e series

Re: dedicated burnout car

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 8:11 pm
by TAXI
Well if your willing to look like a p plate vn driver on a burnout pad goodluck
your second to last line said it all. no big clouds are embarrising on a pad. i have had many mates build up fairly staunch cars that are crap on the pad
there is a dedicated eb burnout car on here, he is now boosted.

Re: dedicated burnout car

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 9:12 pm
by my5.0l
im sure ill get smoke im not entering to win

i am also not going to turbo this motor

the car itself is not a dedicated burnout car and never will be

oh and also being embarrissed on a pad is going to happen wether you have a good car or not .

Re: dedicated burnout car

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 9:15 pm
by josh_ef
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0bXO1C7 ... ata_player

Been on the pad many time mate,

Just offering my opinion as you asked people for it

I hate seeing shit heaps on the burnout pad, waste if time seeing almost stock cars do skids especially 6 cylinders


My 2 cents

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 9:17 pm
by my5.0l
yeah your rite but its at kandos, wich has normally about 8 good cars and the rest is made up of shitters so its not like the bigger events

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 9:21 pm
by my5.0l
i did and i also made the thread title misleading as to what i planned on doing

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 9:33 pm
by josh_ef
Fair enough

I'm not trying to beat ya down, good driving makes a good skid too

I do burnouts for fun not for people's viewing pleasure

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 26th, 2011, 9:39 pm
by EBOOST
do what u have said and just throw stockies at it with skinny rubber.

if u put 4.11's then it might do 2nd haha.

josh_ef is that u in that xd?
cheers josh.

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 27th, 2011, 8:41 am
by NUT347
Josh_EF your a wanker.

my5.0l, clamp your rear brakes, do several donuts in first then try for second.

Once your in second put your foot on the brake and stay in the same spot to get the tires nice and hot, then go back to donuts. Hold it flat, don't ever let off lol. Make sure you flat change too.

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 27th, 2011, 10:18 am
by SnipeZ
Keep the revs up lol.
If you want smoke over fill it with oil. Cut the exhaust short to make it sound better.
Hold foot flat and dump clutch.
If the t5 in the car is good I have a noisey box you can destroy!

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 27th, 2011, 12:08 pm
by ghia302
would it be worth advancing the dizzy to get it spinning up quicker?

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 27th, 2011, 5:08 pm
by josh_ef
yeah it is my xd josh, it was my mates xd, i bought it off him ages ago n sold it off after a few skids and got an eb instead

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: October 27th, 2011, 6:43 pm
by 67rce
Nitrous. Lots of it. Otherwise, what Josh (NUT347) said.

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 10th, 2011, 8:11 pm
by my5.0l
its completely stripped out minus raceseats and rollcage ill be sitting on the limiter for sure dont thin k ill get past second although i might try lol

back brakes will be blocked off
14' stockies
limiter

should be fun lol

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 10th, 2011, 9:06 pm
by bentls
raise the limiter?? make it fail faster anyway if nothing else

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 11th, 2011, 3:39 pm
by Rollin
If the cat isn't punched out already definitely do that. Have the fans running before you even start the car, and make sure the car is cold before you start, don't let it idle and warm up, it just preheats everything and makes it overheat faster (unless you want it to overheat on purpose, then ignore that lol).

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 11th, 2011, 8:53 pm
by brad_m
NUT347 wrote: clamp your rear brakes, do several donuts in first then try for second.

Once your in second put your foot on the brake and stay in the same spot to get the tires nice and hot, then go back to donuts. Hold it flat, don't ever let off lol. Make sure you flat change too.


Or roll through the water and stop on the dry, stick it in second, rev limiter side step the clutch and straight onto the brakes. Smoke will happen pretty quick.
There is no point in wasting time in first gear.

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 11th, 2011, 11:09 pm
by my5.0l
Rollin wrote:If the cat isn't punched out already definitely do that. Have the fans running before you even start the car, and make sure the car is cold before you start, don't let it idle and warm up, it just preheats everything and makes it overheat faster (unless you want it to overheat on purpose, then ignore that lol).


at the end of the day i dont care if it blows up and im sure it will but i wont warm it,

i havnt molested the cat yet but will do.

im hopin i might get a grass event aswell out of it but id doubt it lol.

good idea with the fans,every other year ive been there its been stinkin hot

ive been thinking about also hooking another water bottle up to spray on the radiator or will that cause more harm?

the only problem i can think of, is with only having the front brakes working doing donuts, if i mess up im not going to stop at all lol.

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 11th, 2011, 11:10 pm
by my5.0l
brad_m wrote:
NUT347 wrote: clamp your rear brakes, do several donuts in first then try for second.

Once your in second put your foot on the brake and stay in the same spot to get the tires nice and hot, then go back to donuts. Hold it flat, don't ever let off lol. Make sure you flat change too.


Or roll through the water and stop on the dry, stick it in second, rev limiter side step the clutch and straight onto the brakes. Smoke will happen pretty quick.
There is no point in wasting time in first gear.



just remember its a 3.9 cpi i might not have enough power for second lol

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 11th, 2011, 11:12 pm
by my5.0l
SnipeZ wrote:Keep the revs up lol.
If you want smoke over fill it with oil. Cut the exhaust short to make it sound better.
Hold foot flat and dump clutch.
If the t5 in the car is good I have a noisey box you can destroy!


the t5 is good, wereabouts do you live lol

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 11th, 2011, 11:13 pm
by my5.0l
NUT347 wrote:Josh_EF your a wanker.

my5.0l, clamp your rear brakes, do several donuts in first then try for second.

Once your in second put your foot on the brake and stay in the same spot to get the tires nice and hot, then go back to donuts. Hold it flat, don't ever let off lol. Make sure you flat change too.


i wont be able to do donts straight up theres a straight before the donut pad

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 11th, 2011, 11:24 pm
by misk
not with that attitude buddy!
figure 8s straight off the bat, **** the fences!

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 6:20 am
by brad_m
my5.0l wrote:
brad_m wrote:
NUT347 wrote: clamp your rear brakes, do several donuts in first then try for second.

Once your in second put your foot on the brake and stay in the same spot to get the tires nice and hot, then go back to donuts. Hold it flat, don't ever let off lol. Make sure you flat change too.


Or roll through the water and stop on the dry, stick it in second, rev limiter side step the clutch and straight onto the brakes. Smoke will happen pretty quick.
There is no point in wasting time in first gear.



just remember its a 3.9 cpi i might not have enough power for second lol


Then don't waste your time.

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 7:27 pm
by my5.0l
dont waste your time.

thought id been through this shit already im there to blow the car up not win

if i wanted to have a real go id swap motors now

so i do not want to hear dont waste ur time or anything else negative.

im doing it for fun and to kill the motor in a fun way if you dont like that dont comment problem solved

its covered now so no need to keep going on its sorted

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 7:48 pm
by falcon4life
just make sure you have vids of it going POP!

rig washer bottle to rear tyres for extra sickness and 3rd gear lol

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 7:53 pm
by misk
my5.0l wrote:dont waste your time.

thought id been through this shit already im there to blow the car up not win

if i wanted to have a real go id swap motors now

so i do not want to hear dont waste ur time or anything else negative.

im doing it for fun and to kill the motor in a fun way if you dont like that dont comment problem solved

its covered now so no need to keep going on its sorted


i think he just meant dont waste your time trying for second bud

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 7:55 pm
by my5.0l
lol it is getting videoed i was thinkin bout that but aperantly its not allowed lol

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 7:59 pm
by brad_m
my5.0l wrote:dont waste your time.

thought id been through this shit already im there to blow the car up not win

if i wanted to have a real go id swap motors now

so i do not want to hear dont waste ur time or anything else negative.

im doing it for fun and to kill the motor in a fun way if you dont like that dont comment problem solved

its covered now so no need to keep going on its sorted


First gear in an EA isn't going to be fun, you might as well just park the thing and put a brick on the accel pedal.
But hey if you don't want people to comment don't start threads?

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 8:01 pm
by my5.0l
if so i apoligise if not well to bad lol

im confident it will ive had it in 4th was goin for 5th but tyre blew

its got no weight so yeah i will try for third though, just gotta be prepared to go straight back if it dont lol

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 8:03 pm
by my5.0l
no i know but i was joking that it wont do it ,

if it dont get second ill drive through

im sure it will im more interested in trying third

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 8:03 pm
by misk
lol guess i was wrong.
leave the **** alone ffs!
the thread and what he's doing isn't that absurd...

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 12th, 2011, 8:05 pm
by my5.0l
and coments are expected on a public forum granted but wen im doing it to blow the motor i dont care if its shit

like i said if its no good ill drive through but it will cop a raping before i do that

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 13th, 2011, 11:34 am
by nothin suss
my5.0l wrote:lol it is getting videoed i was thinkin bout that but aperantly its not allowed lol


Riiight...

Like 67RCE said. Just NOS it. Get a cheap ebay kit and away you go...

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 14th, 2011, 8:51 am
by my5.0l
im a big fan of the nos idea definately looking into it

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 14th, 2011, 9:10 am
by TUFED6
I reckon the CFI might be able to get 2nd.

Fucking around with different mods here and there will make it too complicated. I wouldnt worry too much about diff ratios or line lockers. Most Falcon rear brakes have signed off after a 30 second static on the brake.

Just drive it properly and you'll kick some arse. Driving it properly = practice. Should find somewhere quiet and have a practice before the event.

Your on the right track though-

1. Get all the weight out of it
2. Get the most cheap power out of it possible- gut the cat, take the filter element out of the air cleaner, make sure its running properly (basic service, plugs, leads, cap/rotor button, coil, etc)
3. Keep the motor cool
4. Big tyre speed = big smoke, try to run lower profile tyres so they are spinning faster
5. Drive it properly

The last item is the real key. I've seen shitbox cars driven properly put on a far better show than cars with big power driven by a nuffy.

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 14th, 2011, 10:20 am
by SnipeZ
Go 185/50 x 15
Holden astra tyre. You might get third haha

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 14th, 2011, 6:51 pm
by gazza.jb
use light truck tyres and old ones been sitting in sun (makes em hard and little grip) if you can load it up on chemi weld will make it last little longer minispool and 4.11 would be ok just make sure to keep revs up in any gear you can

Re: entering burnout comp for fun way to waste 3.9 cpi befor

PostPosted: November 14th, 2011, 7:29 pm
by SnipeZ
If the revs start dying mash the clutch and acc together and drop clutch again. If it works