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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby BLCKED » May 12th, 2008, 9:04 pm

not sure what that space cadet much means but ok sure

cant let him do his fighting for him?

my eb will rip the shit out of it that i can assure you

you dont know anything about my engine so how can you tell me what my car is can do?

i initially said i dont believe my car to have over 200 at the wheels, i have never dynoed it so i actually dont know.
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Postby Dansedgli » May 12th, 2008, 9:05 pm

Stav - Have you tried one of the regular electronic shift kits or just the one I showed you back in the day? They are a lot less harsh and might better suit.

I only used it because my box would still slip with the conventional electronic shift kit.
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby BLCKED » May 12th, 2008, 9:05 pm

Commando wrote:Nup, mine's not quicker, no matter how questionable the 13.7@106 is :(



thank you,

its not about my toy is better im not being a wanker.

i just get shitty when i talk about my car every one is like THATS CRAP THATS BS THAT CANT BE RIGHT

so over it.
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Dansedgli » May 12th, 2008, 9:06 pm

You all own E series. No one wins.
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Postby Commando » May 12th, 2008, 9:13 pm

Stav wins? :P
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby BLCKED » May 12th, 2008, 9:14 pm

what are those ones on ebay like?

i was going to get one years ago for my xr8 but they seemed a bit cheap n dodgey,

like 60 bucks or something
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Commando » May 12th, 2008, 9:15 pm

make it yourself for <$10 bucks ;)
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Postby slo_sprint » May 12th, 2008, 9:27 pm

ebgt302 wrote:not sure what that space cadet much means but ok sure

cant let him do his fighting for him?

my eb will rip the shit out of it that i can assure you

you dont know anything about my engine so how can you tell me what my car is can do?

i initially said i dont believe my car to have over 200 at the wheels, i have never dynoed it so i actually dont know.


Dude, your stories are so full of holes i'm not inclined to believe anything you say

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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby AaronEF8 » May 12th, 2008, 9:28 pm

You're our illustrious leader Dan, you definately don't win.
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby BLCKED » May 12th, 2008, 9:29 pm

slo_sprint wrote:
ebgt302 wrote:not sure what that space cadet much means but ok sure

cant let him do his fighting for him?

my eb will rip the shit out of it that i can assure you

you dont know anything about my engine so how can you tell me what my car is can do?

i initially said i dont believe my car to have over 200 at the wheels, i have never dynoed it so i actually dont know.


Dude, your stories are so full of holes i'm not inclined to believe anything you say

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Bingo!



i really dont care what you believe champ
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Dansedgli » May 12th, 2008, 9:30 pm

AaronEF8 wrote:You're our illustrious leader Dan, you definately don't win.


Im not even a mod anymore. I > joo.

I dont own an E series. My Ford is much more agricultural but it runs over shit good. ;)
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby stav » May 12th, 2008, 10:38 pm

Hey Dan ..that shift kit was a monster..I loved it. I saw the other shift kits when they were a new idea. I think I was the first to come up with the variable resistor idea. I have to say that while the box felt different that it was not faster. I think I am after more precise changes at the chnge of a gear.

All in the name of science i have looked at my maual and the changes need certain solenoids to be activated and deactivated for things to happen. As these are electronically controlled from my technical skill level I am better off intercepting every solenoid with an off on switch to see what will produce a good result. No one has done this before that I know of and what the heck ive gotten used to changing blown gearboxes every other year..heheh
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby nommic » May 12th, 2008, 10:50 pm

ebgt302 wrote:what are those ones on ebay like?

i was going to get one years ago for my xr8 but they seemed a bit cheap n dodgey,

like 60 bucks or something

Why don't you buy one and tell us how hard it goes?
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby AaronEF8 » May 12th, 2008, 10:59 pm

Didn't I just say that? lol. ;)
It has been done before, although not with a row of switches. Stockstandard had a valvebody hooked to his PC with a program setup to run solenoids between gears, which could be easily adapted to something like a MegaShift.

The hard part will be working out the timing for the solenoids, they're pretty sensetive to the timing. I looked into fitting one to my car, but blowing V8 BTR's doesn't appeal to me, as I'd imagine a couple of boxes would die before you get it right. Having a shift timed .2 of a second off, or having one solenoid wired in wrong would spell trouble. Maybe it would be better to experiment on stock old boxes till the setup is fairly close to right?
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby BLCKED » May 12th, 2008, 11:00 pm

nommic wrote:
ebgt302 wrote:what are those ones on ebay like?

i was going to get one years ago for my xr8 but they seemed a bit cheap n dodgey,

like 60 bucks or something

Why don't you buy one and tell us how hard it goes?



im pretty sure i answerd that question with my statement earlier,

that they seemed a bit cheap and nasty.. ?

im not sure i understand your point?
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Commando » May 13th, 2008, 8:13 am

Mine lasted 100,000kms on my old box until it died at 350,000kms from a split cooler hose. I have it on my new(er) box too, I've had no problems with mine. Of course, I'd MUCH rather a proper mechanical shift kit (cough SLOXR8 cough) :D
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Gozza » May 13th, 2008, 10:13 am

Commando wrote: Of course, I'd MUCH rather a proper mechanical shift kit (cough SLOXR8 cough) :D


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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby BLCKED » May 13th, 2008, 10:33 am

yeah mechanical shift kits probably last longer, alot more expensive tho

my mechanic mate specializes in auto's if any one is after prices and stuff. he is in dandenone.

prefers chevs and holdens tho, never the less builds tough auto's
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby shane-ed » May 13th, 2008, 11:58 am

dus anyone know a link or somewhere where i can get an electronic shift kit ? i dont know how to make it so i just would like a pre made one
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Commando » May 13th, 2008, 12:06 pm

Gozza wrote:
Commando wrote: Of course, I'd MUCH rather a proper mechanical shift kit (cough SLOXR8 cough) :D


Thought you were going to call MV you home owner


I've copy/pasted that post from your thread ;) I'll do it one day. Probably in 2009. 10. :D
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Postby Gozza » May 13th, 2008, 12:14 pm

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Postby Commando » May 13th, 2008, 12:23 pm

shane-ed, search on fordmods.com, there's several shift-kit threads there. Make sure you look for an EBII-ED specific circuit.
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Postby shane-ed » May 13th, 2008, 12:26 pm

commando-
thanks but do they do any harm to the trans or anything else?
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Postby Commando » May 13th, 2008, 12:35 pm

Have a read of this

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Postby shane-ed » May 13th, 2008, 2:55 pm

thanks heaps ill have a go over the w.e and ill let u know how it goes.
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Postby Commando » May 13th, 2008, 3:33 pm

If you wire up the wrong wires, it won't blow up your car or anything, it'll just put the auto into Limp mode (3rd & reverse only) until you fix what you've fked.
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby shane-ed » May 13th, 2008, 4:08 pm

ok well towards the end of the yr im getting my trans serviced..
i asked my dad if they could fit a shift kit and he said they probs could 4 around 220-280 depending ont he tightness..
do u think i should just wait?
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Commando » May 13th, 2008, 4:12 pm

Why not do both? Spend like $5 on an electronic one for now, and then pull it out when you get a mechanical shift kit done. $220-280 is a mad price.
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Postby stav » May 17th, 2008, 9:10 am

Commando..i think I found out what was wrong with my auto.It went in under warranaty the other day ..it needed 1.5 litres of oil. No leaks btw. No oil in water...I think they stuffed up but the car feels different..hehe oil helps!! Will know for sure in a week or so.
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Commando » May 17th, 2008, 9:20 am

LOL!!!

Well, since you've been commuting and drag racing on a box that's low on oil (how much do they need to fill? 6L?), you should keep an eye on it as it's probably lost a lot of life... Possibly a future claim outside warranty time? (if that makes sense?)
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Postby AaronEF8 » May 17th, 2008, 9:29 am

I reckon they need about 12 litres including the convertor and the factory oil cooler.

Does the box have a dipstick?
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Postby stav » May 18th, 2008, 9:35 am

The box is one of the ford au jobbies with no dipstick. 2 Goes down the 1/4 and snail driving most of the time...Hope it doesnt die that quick!! It sure does feel alot firmer on gearchanges. Hopefully the you beaut clutches and kevlar bands havent worn to buggery!!

It was down 1 1/2 litres. I reckon they didnt account for my big transmission cooler.It is almost as big as the radiator.

I dont think theres anything damamged or worn..if I put the boot in on many occasions it kicks down hard then chirps into next gear and the tbar goes from 4th to 3rd from the force all by itself!! :D :) :o I like this car stuff too much hehe
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby stav » June 1st, 2008, 10:04 am

Guys thanks heaps for your help..The prob was the inhibitor switch. It would be nice for the auto boxes to shift precisely in the au btr box...I have also found as commando mentioned that when floored the box gets to 5800 rpm when I shift up at 5000 rpm.This means that the response from the computer or box is too slow. I am going to try to find out how to make shifts as close to instant as possible or to make the car shift closer to the desired rpm.. I am going to get cracking!!Keep you guys in the loop and oh one other thing OED ill pm you tommorow.
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Postby BLCKED » June 1st, 2008, 11:24 am

good stuff mate
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby Commando » June 1st, 2008, 8:42 pm

Stav, as mentioned earlier, for a quick fix you'll need an electronic shift kit (mild is all you need to quicken up the shifts - without the harsh shifts)

Or, spend a few hundred on a mechanical shift kit ;)
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby holmsy » June 1st, 2008, 8:54 pm

mechanical shift kits go hard :D
only thing is even driving slow with stage 2 mechanical the shifts are harsh
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby TAXI » June 5th, 2008, 11:31 pm

Hi i just soldered up my kit tonight using,10watt 5.6 ohm+10 watt 18 ohm resistors.
if held flat it changes wen i up the gear above 5200.i would like to know what resistors everyone`s using cheer`s.
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Postby holmsy » June 7th, 2008, 8:57 am

you do realise a shift kit doesnt change at what rpm it changes gear dont you?
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby TAXI » June 7th, 2008, 1:06 pm

Like i said very well timed changes above 5200.no delay in shift time in pwr mode all change`s above 5600
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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

Postby AaronEF8 » June 7th, 2008, 2:32 pm

Where did you say that? And what are you actually trying to say?
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