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Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:04 pm
by BLCKED
not sure what that space cadet much means but ok sure

cant let him do his fighting for him?

my eb will rip the shit out of it that i can assure you

you dont know anything about my engine so how can you tell me what my car is can do?

i initially said i dont believe my car to have over 200 at the wheels, i have never dynoed it so i actually dont know.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:05 pm
by Dansedgli
Stav - Have you tried one of the regular electronic shift kits or just the one I showed you back in the day? They are a lot less harsh and might better suit.

I only used it because my box would still slip with the conventional electronic shift kit.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:05 pm
by BLCKED
Commando wrote:Nup, mine's not quicker, no matter how questionable the 13.7@106 is :(



thank you,

its not about my toy is better im not being a wanker.

i just get shitty when i talk about my car every one is like THATS CRAP THATS BS THAT CANT BE RIGHT

so over it.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:06 pm
by Dansedgli
You all own E series. No one wins.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:13 pm
by Commando
Stav wins? :P

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:14 pm
by BLCKED
what are those ones on ebay like?

i was going to get one years ago for my xr8 but they seemed a bit cheap n dodgey,

like 60 bucks or something

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:15 pm
by Commando
make it yourself for <$10 bucks ;)

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:27 pm
by slo_sprint
ebgt302 wrote:not sure what that space cadet much means but ok sure

cant let him do his fighting for him?

my eb will rip the shit out of it that i can assure you

you dont know anything about my engine so how can you tell me what my car is can do?

i initially said i dont believe my car to have over 200 at the wheels, i have never dynoed it so i actually dont know.


Dude, your stories are so full of holes i'm not inclined to believe anything you say

Dansedgli wrote:You all own E series. No one wins.


Bingo!

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:28 pm
by AaronEF8
You're our illustrious leader Dan, you definately don't win.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:29 pm
by BLCKED
slo_sprint wrote:
ebgt302 wrote:not sure what that space cadet much means but ok sure

cant let him do his fighting for him?

my eb will rip the shit out of it that i can assure you

you dont know anything about my engine so how can you tell me what my car is can do?

i initially said i dont believe my car to have over 200 at the wheels, i have never dynoed it so i actually dont know.


Dude, your stories are so full of holes i'm not inclined to believe anything you say

Dansedgli wrote:You all own E series. No one wins.


Bingo!



i really dont care what you believe champ

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 9:30 pm
by Dansedgli
AaronEF8 wrote:You're our illustrious leader Dan, you definately don't win.


Im not even a mod anymore. I > joo.

I dont own an E series. My Ford is much more agricultural but it runs over shit good. ;)

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 10:38 pm
by stav
Hey Dan ..that shift kit was a monster..I loved it. I saw the other shift kits when they were a new idea. I think I was the first to come up with the variable resistor idea. I have to say that while the box felt different that it was not faster. I think I am after more precise changes at the chnge of a gear.

All in the name of science i have looked at my maual and the changes need certain solenoids to be activated and deactivated for things to happen. As these are electronically controlled from my technical skill level I am better off intercepting every solenoid with an off on switch to see what will produce a good result. No one has done this before that I know of and what the heck ive gotten used to changing blown gearboxes every other year..heheh

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 10:50 pm
by nommic
ebgt302 wrote:what are those ones on ebay like?

i was going to get one years ago for my xr8 but they seemed a bit cheap n dodgey,

like 60 bucks or something

Why don't you buy one and tell us how hard it goes?

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 10:59 pm
by AaronEF8
Didn't I just say that? lol. ;)
It has been done before, although not with a row of switches. Stockstandard had a valvebody hooked to his PC with a program setup to run solenoids between gears, which could be easily adapted to something like a MegaShift.

The hard part will be working out the timing for the solenoids, they're pretty sensetive to the timing. I looked into fitting one to my car, but blowing V8 BTR's doesn't appeal to me, as I'd imagine a couple of boxes would die before you get it right. Having a shift timed .2 of a second off, or having one solenoid wired in wrong would spell trouble. Maybe it would be better to experiment on stock old boxes till the setup is fairly close to right?

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 12th, 2008, 11:00 pm
by BLCKED
nommic wrote:
ebgt302 wrote:what are those ones on ebay like?

i was going to get one years ago for my xr8 but they seemed a bit cheap n dodgey,

like 60 bucks or something

Why don't you buy one and tell us how hard it goes?



im pretty sure i answerd that question with my statement earlier,

that they seemed a bit cheap and nasty.. ?

im not sure i understand your point?

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 8:13 am
by Commando
Mine lasted 100,000kms on my old box until it died at 350,000kms from a split cooler hose. I have it on my new(er) box too, I've had no problems with mine. Of course, I'd MUCH rather a proper mechanical shift kit (cough SLOXR8 cough) :D

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 10:13 am
by Gozza
Commando wrote: Of course, I'd MUCH rather a proper mechanical shift kit (cough SLOXR8 cough) :D


Thought you were going to call MV you home owner

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 10:33 am
by BLCKED
yeah mechanical shift kits probably last longer, alot more expensive tho

my mechanic mate specializes in auto's if any one is after prices and stuff. he is in dandenone.

prefers chevs and holdens tho, never the less builds tough auto's

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 11:58 am
by shane-ed
dus anyone know a link or somewhere where i can get an electronic shift kit ? i dont know how to make it so i just would like a pre made one

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 12:06 pm
by Commando
Gozza wrote:
Commando wrote: Of course, I'd MUCH rather a proper mechanical shift kit (cough SLOXR8 cough) :D


Thought you were going to call MV you home owner


I've copy/pasted that post from your thread ;) I'll do it one day. Probably in 2009. 10. :D

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 12:14 pm
by Gozza
:)

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 12:23 pm
by Commando
shane-ed, search on fordmods.com, there's several shift-kit threads there. Make sure you look for an EBII-ED specific circuit.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 12:26 pm
by shane-ed
commando-
thanks but do they do any harm to the trans or anything else?

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 12:35 pm
by Commando
Have a read of this

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1468

Cheers

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 2:55 pm
by shane-ed
thanks heaps ill have a go over the w.e and ill let u know how it goes.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 3:33 pm
by Commando
If you wire up the wrong wires, it won't blow up your car or anything, it'll just put the auto into Limp mode (3rd & reverse only) until you fix what you've fked.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 4:08 pm
by shane-ed
ok well towards the end of the yr im getting my trans serviced..
i asked my dad if they could fit a shift kit and he said they probs could 4 around 220-280 depending ont he tightness..
do u think i should just wait?

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 13th, 2008, 4:12 pm
by Commando
Why not do both? Spend like $5 on an electronic one for now, and then pull it out when you get a mechanical shift kit done. $220-280 is a mad price.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 17th, 2008, 9:10 am
by stav
Commando..i think I found out what was wrong with my auto.It went in under warranaty the other day ..it needed 1.5 litres of oil. No leaks btw. No oil in water...I think they stuffed up but the car feels different..hehe oil helps!! Will know for sure in a week or so.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 17th, 2008, 9:20 am
by Commando
LOL!!!

Well, since you've been commuting and drag racing on a box that's low on oil (how much do they need to fill? 6L?), you should keep an eye on it as it's probably lost a lot of life... Possibly a future claim outside warranty time? (if that makes sense?)

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 17th, 2008, 9:29 am
by AaronEF8
I reckon they need about 12 litres including the convertor and the factory oil cooler.

Does the box have a dipstick?

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: May 18th, 2008, 9:35 am
by stav
The box is one of the ford au jobbies with no dipstick. 2 Goes down the 1/4 and snail driving most of the time...Hope it doesnt die that quick!! It sure does feel alot firmer on gearchanges. Hopefully the you beaut clutches and kevlar bands havent worn to buggery!!

It was down 1 1/2 litres. I reckon they didnt account for my big transmission cooler.It is almost as big as the radiator.

I dont think theres anything damamged or worn..if I put the boot in on many occasions it kicks down hard then chirps into next gear and the tbar goes from 4th to 3rd from the force all by itself!! :D :) :o I like this car stuff too much hehe

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 10:04 am
by stav
Guys thanks heaps for your help..The prob was the inhibitor switch. It would be nice for the auto boxes to shift precisely in the au btr box...I have also found as commando mentioned that when floored the box gets to 5800 rpm when I shift up at 5000 rpm.This means that the response from the computer or box is too slow. I am going to try to find out how to make shifts as close to instant as possible or to make the car shift closer to the desired rpm.. I am going to get cracking!!Keep you guys in the loop and oh one other thing OED ill pm you tommorow.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 11:24 am
by BLCKED
good stuff mate

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 8:42 pm
by Commando
Stav, as mentioned earlier, for a quick fix you'll need an electronic shift kit (mild is all you need to quicken up the shifts - without the harsh shifts)

Or, spend a few hundred on a mechanical shift kit ;)

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: June 1st, 2008, 8:54 pm
by holmsy
mechanical shift kits go hard :D
only thing is even driving slow with stage 2 mechanical the shifts are harsh

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: June 5th, 2008, 11:31 pm
by TAXI
Hi i just soldered up my kit tonight using,10watt 5.6 ohm+10 watt 18 ohm resistors.
if held flat it changes wen i up the gear above 5200.i would like to know what resistors everyone`s using cheer`s.

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: June 7th, 2008, 8:57 am
by holmsy
you do realise a shift kit doesnt change at what rpm it changes gear dont you?

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: June 7th, 2008, 1:06 pm
by TAXI
Like i said very well timed changes above 5200.no delay in shift time in pwr mode all change`s above 5600

Re: driving an auto like a manual can we?

PostPosted: June 7th, 2008, 2:32 pm
by AaronEF8
Where did you say that? And what are you actually trying to say?