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HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 6:47 pm
by Commando
I figured I'd throw this thread up for the newer users. A few years ago I wouldn't have been game enough to do it myself, and after doing it for the first time in aaaaaaages this weekend just gone I figured I'd make a thread. Plus I've got **** all to do tonight.

Firstly, you will need the following:

* Socket set (including extension arm)
* Oil pan
* Oil filter wrench (see pic below)
* Z9 oil filter (just ask for a filter to suit your EA-EL six/V8)
* Oil (5L for V8, 5.5L for the six).
* Jack (scissor or trolley, doesn't matter)
* Axle stands (for piece of mind, I wouldn't want to get under a car held up solely by a jack)

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^^^ Typical oil filter wrench found on ebay for <$20 + postage ^^^

What oil you decide upon depends on what your budget, what kind of motor you've got (high-km slapper or freshly rebuilt performance motor), or whatever you're happy with putting in your falcon. In my case for my EF (high-km slapper), I bought a 6L cheap-ish bottle of 20w/50 mineral oil. Same deal with filters, I got a cheap Ryco filter.

Heavier oil (15w/40 up to 25w/60) will suit older engines that are stock-ish and may experience lifter ticking, blowby, or are simply used as a daily. If you're running 15w/40 oil and your lifters are ticking, you may find that replacing with 20w/50 or heavier will get rid of the ticking.

Ligher oil (say, 5w/30 to 15w/40) suits freshly-built tight-tolerance performance motors, the lighter weight allows for smoother & higher revving (or more time spent in the higher rpm range).

Synthetic oil is better,particularly if you have a performance motor but you pay a price for it. Also, you can get away with longer periods between oil changes (although this isn't recommended :P)

Anyway enough about oils. On with the oil change!

1)
Firstly, ALLOW YOUR ENGINE TO COOL DOWN BEFORE STARTING. The last thing you want to do is burn your fingers or get hot oil on your face/arm/etc.

2)
Jack car up from the front (with trolley jack, on k-frame) or the jacking points on the sides (scissor jack) and place axle stands under the chassis rails close to the front.

3)
Place oil pan under sump, undo sump plug. This nut requires a 19mm socket. Lefty-loosey righty-tighty applies here ;) Gingerly undo by hand once it's loose, you don't want to drop it into the pan (along with the old oil). Oil will weep out *just* before the plug is completely out. Allow oil to drain for a few minutes.

4)
If you poke your head under the car in front of the passenger wheel, you'll see your oil filter through a hole/gap in the chassis, above the k-frame. (If you look from above, it's under the front of your intake manifold). Fit your oil filter wrench to your extension arm, fit that to your ratchet, and slip over the filter from through this hole/gap. Once you start to undo/turn the ratchet+wrench, the wrench will self-tighten around the filter. Remember lefty-loosey righty-tighty.

5)
With your new oil filter, dip your finger into your new oil a few times and apply oil around the edge of the oil filter. This is so it will seal properly when screwed back on. Redo by hand until it seals, and then tighten it up a bit past that point. It doesn't need to be on uber tight. Also, it might take several tries to get it to screw in at first.

6)
Screw sump-plug back in by hand until finger tight, and then with the 19mm socket + ratchet continue until tight (should hardly turn much after finger-tight anyway). Don't go crazy here with brute force or you might cross-thread (or round) the plug.

7)
Remove oil pan & other stuff (old filter, etc) from under car, lower back to ground. Fill with oil through the oil cap on the rocker cover. Remember 5.5L for the sixes, 5L for the V8.

8)
Start car, let it idle for a bit, check underneath for any leaks (if you're unsure about your sump plug or oil filter). Assuming everything's OK, you're right to go!

9)
Use old oil for skids in your residential street, nearby schoolzone, for for laughs at the nearest busy intersection.

Now, assuming you've already got a jack, stands, something to drain the oil into (ie a pan), etc, you could do an oil change on your car for <$30 (cost of cheap oil and filter). If you go for high-performance products (ie decent oil filter + synthetic oil) you may be spending up to $100. If my car wasn't a beater & had a decent engine, I'd probably put semi-synthetic oil in it as a minimum. The "extra" cost of semi/full synthetic oil (and a performance filter) is definitely worth the potential tens of thousands of extra kms (and better performance) you can get out of your motor by looking after it properly.

Excluding waiting for the engine to cool, this should take 15-20 mins tops from scratch, with 1/2 of that time being draining/filling the oil :) It's one of the easiest things you can do and will save you up to $100+ for a basic oil change if compared to taking your car to a mechanic.

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 6:51 pm
by Gozza
do you have a guide for an advanced oil change?

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 6:55 pm
by Commando
You'd have to PM Gerendasi for that. It involves the sump gasket.

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:04 pm
by Damo
Windsor takes 5 liters not 6 :| . Hands make a good oil filter wrench also. Cheers

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:07 pm
by Commando
Whoops! :oops:

Hands are good if you've got brute strength :P I don't...

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:08 pm
by TriymeD
Hands do a good job but I remember reading here that someone couldn't turn theirs using a screwdriver through oil filter!

Done it a coupla times myself! But a wrench is as handy as spring compressors are handy when you change the shocks as I found out! Doh! :shock:

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:08 pm
by Kyle the ED4LTR
Nice writeup Dave!, oil change was the first thing I did to my car and first hands on thing i did myself when I bought it, though I didnt know about the oil filter till after, from memory i used Castrol GTX3 15w-40 Viscosity. Though after hanging around here and Kev, ive learnt that Penrite is THE shit for these cars. So when I get my baby back I might do another oil change and actually replace the filter.

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:10 pm
by TriymeD
LOL same ere with Kev and penrite!

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:19 pm
by Kyle the ED4LTR
im still puzzled on how this wrench works

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:26 pm
by Commando
When the nut on the top of it turns (you either stick the square end of the extension arm straight into it, or a socket onto the extension arm onto the nut, depending on the wrench you get), the nut turns and has a cog underneath. This cog meshes with a cog on each of the wrench arms, and rotates them all inwards until it clamps tight on the filter.

Then you just continue to turn to undo the filter. Same principle applies for doing up the filter, the wrench arms will just rotate in the opposite direction until the filter is gripped tightly again.

*EDIT* here's a good pic that shows how it works. The nut on top rotates, in turn rotating the legs as mentioned above.

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Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:46 pm
by Rollin
Holy shit batman - oil filters don't need to be that tight! Just by hand is more than enough - as it says on the side, do it up till the seal touches, then go another 3/4 of a turn or so, any more than that and you will near need a rattle gun to get it off!

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 7:49 pm
by holmsy
yeh as rollin said. hand tight is more then enough.
also the oil on the seal is important as it helps when ya have to get the thing off again.

the filter on the xr8 i could not get off. ended up demolishing it with a screw driver. not fun.

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 8:03 pm
by Commando
I didn't do mine up farken tight-tight, maybe I explained it poorly. 3/4 of a turn was probably as far as I went after it began to tighten up when doing by hand.

Commando doesn't torque shit up man-style. Just ask spope when it came to various nuts & bolts on the EB :P

"have you done it up?"
"yeah"
(starts car, something leaks or rattles)
"... no"

EDIT fark, I didn't write that bit up too well in the first post! Post changed...

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 6th, 2008, 9:15 pm
by nommic
LOL Dave I just remembered that you definitely don't tighten shit up. I distinctly remember at least one shock being a bit loose after changing the springs on my car :P

(still owe you and holmsy for helping me out that time though)

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 7th, 2008, 2:53 pm
by holmsy
haha i remember that.
i said have you done it up extremely tight "yeh yeh its tight"
next day nommic says the shock is rattling. its loose. hey its the corner dave did.

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 12:14 pm
by Allen
Decent write up Dave, I would do some things a little differently though.

- When putting a thin film of oil on the filter's rubber seal, you should fill the filter up at least halfway with fresh oil. This helps getting filtered oil to your valve train faster on initial start up. Doing this can be messy when installing the filter as oil can be poured out if you put too much in.
- After filling the engine with fresh oil, give it time to drain into the sump. This is more important with heavier oils as it takes a little longer to drain down, esspecially because it is cold.
- Before starting the engine, it doesn't hurt to pull the coil plug off and crank the engine over to build pressure before running.

I still think they should manufacture oil filters with a 19mm hex nut welded on the bottom so you can just use a ratchet and socket to get the stupidly tight ones off...

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 1:10 pm
by Commando
I only did your 2nd one listed there :P

As for filters with a hex nut welded on the end, LUXO_8 showed me some filters on ebay with nuts on them, can't remember what brand though (Pennzoil? Penrite?). Anyway they're available out there, I don't see why they couldn't be had through Repco/Bursons/etc :)

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 2:02 pm
by krisisdog
So why do you need to jack the car up?
You can also get other types of oil filter wrenches that have the band, they work pretty well too

Also its a good idea to check your oil level again after step 8.


edit - add missing sentence lol

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 2:13 pm
by Commando
So I could reach the sump plug and the oil filter far easier. I figured jacking it up gave me much more room to work with...

I realise you can reach the filter from above (with BBM) but you don't have much room.

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 2:23 pm
by AaronEF8
Fram sell oil filters with a non-slip bitumen type coating on the end of the filter so you can get a good handgrip on it when your hands are coated in oil, I generally use them and have never had a problem taking them off.

Is this where I try to pick at tiny things in the opening post just for the sake of enlarging my e-penis?

Buy Penrite, it's Australian owned and made.

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 2:49 pm
by krisisdog
I get to my filter from underneath the car, same with sump plug, and my car sits on superlows. I also turn full lock to the left which gives me a bit more room to get to the filter.
Might not work if your a big bloke with massive arms tho.....

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 5:29 pm
by Frost
krisisdog wrote:I get to my filter from underneath the car, same with sump plug, and my car sits on superlows. I also turn full lock to the left which gives me a bit more room to get to the filter.
Might not work if your a big bloke with massive arms tho.....


I do the same works all the time

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 7:26 pm
by bentls
the good thing about a ba if you are incredibly lazy (not unlike myself) the oil can be changed without getting under the car!

remove airbox, and u can get to the filter and the sump plug :D


Commando wrote:Excluding waiting for the engine to cool, this should take 15-20 mins tops from scratch, with 1/2 of that time being draining/filling the oil.

lol if i took 20mins to drain oil and top up i think my boss would fire my ass....

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 8:11 pm
by Commando
:roll: It was a conservative figure. Also half of that 15-20 minute timeframe is 7.5-10 minutes. Depending on the viscosity, the oil will drain at a set (slow) rate, and unless you're a douche and fire up the engine to "hurry things up", all you can really do it sit and wait. I went back inside & grabbed a beer, rather than watch the oil drain.

Also it took me a couple of minutes to get the new filter on, friggen thing kept on missing the thread. So I figured first-timers, or those who don't do it often (ie me) won't exactly fly through this in record time.

Aaaaaaand, that timeframe included optional farking around with jacking up the car/putting it on stands. Using a scissor jack.

So it seems reasonable to me :)

OK it seems the following parts of my opening post haven't been scrutinised yet:

* Stating a "SOCKET SET" rather than just the 19" is needed. Also not stating 3/8" or 1/2" drive, etc etc
* Not listing open end or ring spanners as alternatives for the 19" socket on the sump nut
* Not stating specific torque requirements for the sump plug, oil filter, or even the seven-ten cap on the rocker cover as recommended by the relevant Workshop Manual
* Not including an (optional) funnel in the list of things needed (for easier filling)...

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 8:37 pm
by holmsy
beacause if you didnt realise you could use a spanner instead of socket you shouldnt have bothered jacking up your car.
and torque requirements for sump bolts is over rated. and harden the **** up

PS I love penfifteen

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 8:52 pm
by pantic
umms you sure there 5.5 litres?? i've used 5 litres for the pass 4 years.. 500ml in the filter 4.5 in the motor and run it and drive check it in the morning its right on full? unless you got a high enegry sump or maybe something esle is using oil but i swear a standard ea-el uses 5

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 9:06 pm
by nommic
5.5L and 5L are within 10% tolerance, that's probably the tightest spec you're gonna find on an e-series motor.

100% of the oil isn't going to come out anyway. It won't be bone-dry in there.

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 9:10 pm
by pantic
cheers for clearing that up. just never heard of it being 5.5 thats all :P

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 9:19 pm
by nommic
Haha I don't think I cleared anything up. I just take a look at how much I've taken out, put the same-ish amount in and check the dipstick a couple of times for topping up. This is all common-sense though...

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 8th, 2008, 9:30 pm
by holmsy
max elery manual for ef/el says
6cyl including filter...... 5.5 litres
8cyl including filter......5 litres

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 9th, 2008, 8:18 am
by Allen
Commando wrote: * Stating a "SOCKET SET" rather than just the 19" is needed.


Geez Dave, a 19 inch socket? You must have some pretty big nuts to do up.... :shock:

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 9th, 2008, 10:17 am
by thebeast.
thanks dude, i was thinking about doinbg mine soon anyways. now i can get to know the car a bit better and save some money

Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 9th, 2008, 11:58 am
by wolf
well being as i just done mine i thought i better show the results of what happens when a fuckhead has no idea on how tight to make the oilfilter.

What should have been a half hour job turned into 3 hours... :evil: :twisted:
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Re: HOW TO GUIDE: Basic oil change.

PostPosted: October 9th, 2008, 3:37 pm
by thebeast.
nice job lol who did that, its well and truely rooted