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Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 8:00 pm
by NUT347
Cheers.

Everyone in Brisbane seems to think James' dyno reads pretty low, and seem to think that would be 430odd on any other dyno... But I dunno. I'm not a dyno figure man but it seems pretty low.

I'll drive it and make up my mind then.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 8:53 pm
by Sunboost
That's mint. Good work! 400rwkw is something else, hey :lol: :grin:

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 9:17 pm
by Jet
I'd be interest to hear his thoughts are on how it spools. With that setup, I wanted to achieve really quick spool and solid mid-range torque rather than top end numbers. It should be very responsive on the street. Is this thing manual? E85 time!!!!

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 9:19 pm
by edfairmont4.0
Its manual

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 10:01 pm
by NUT347
Sundeep wrote:That's mint. Good work! 400rwkw is something else, hey :lol: :grin:


Im suprised they could strap it down!

ab_futura wrote:I'd be interest to hear his thoughts are on how it spools. With that setup, I wanted to achieve really quick spool and solid mid-range torque rather than top end numbers. It should be very responsive on the street. Is this thing manual? E85 time!!!!


Yeah it makes a bucket load of power down low, and actually spools faster then the log/35r/internal gate setup.

It spikes about 22psi apparently at about 2800rpm, then tapers off to 19psi at around 6500.

It's manual.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 10:15 pm
by justa6
good stuff nut. 400kw street car is where it's at. ab_futura gtx would be the go.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 10:45 pm
by bng
Well done mate. Great power figure. All I want is a 400rwkw car
Again, well done

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 11:09 pm
by lowlow
fixed

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 11:29 pm
by 67rce
Lol. Lowlow/iCER, the BPS Dyno is spot on the mark. 330rwkw C63 =11.8@118, 355rwkw AU XR8 =11.4@122. Both tuned by James. Oh, and the 406rwkw (if you care to read) is on an ETM Mani with a T04Z....

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: May 31st, 2012, 11:43 pm
by iCER
good stuff. lol @ qld dynos reading low. Your funny :) 19psi and 407rwkw is good concidering others get 390ish.

im still running stock rear housing on mine and stock manifold. cant get more then 24.5psi in it though. But then again thats on e85!

is there any difference from 330rwkw to 400rwkw in a manual? Neither setup will get traction in any gear lol



iCER wrote:lol i understand the turbo breaths better and lower psi is needed to make the same power....but maxed out at 16psi? Just means it would make shitload more power (400+) with 20-21psi



Seems i obviously do understand more than most :) The t04z should make 23psi-24psi with good fuel.

And i am aware its on a t04z setup. hence i said what i did. stock turbo wouldnt make that power on tha boost on 98 lol. Maybe in qld/SA.

As it may be accurate, it defiantly isnt low reading.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 12:01 am
by Parfrey
The T04z might make 24psi, but do you think it will still make 24psi on a 10L V8 engine? Same concept applies!

22psi @ 2800rpm is fucking sick! :cool:

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 3:45 am
by Jet
22psi at 2800rpm is mad. I was expecting around 430-450rwkw but I wouldn't read too far into it. A single 4inch exhaust from dump to tip with a painted on cat converter is probably the only thing I'd do differently.

brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 4:38 am
by 09SR5
chuck some e85 in her and really get it going

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 5:31 am
by edfairmont4.0
[quote="09SR5"]chuck some e85 in her and really get it going[/quote
over 400kw isnt going lol

brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 6:46 am
by 09SR5
haha. I agree, it's more about the shift of the power curve upwards by about 50kw and that hit of torque when it comes on boost. if the fuel system and driveline is up to it why not? easy bit of extra power with the safety factor of e85

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 6:54 am
by Bipolar
Enough talk of dyno figures already. Tell me when it's heading to Willowbank for a quarter. Haven't been for a while.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 7:17 am
by edfairmont4.0
yeah 1/4 mile 1/4 mile! lol

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 9:00 am
by NUT347
iCER wrote:good stuff. lol @ qld dynos reading low. Your funny :) 19psi and 407rwkw is good concidering others get 390ish.


I didn't say qld dynos read low you fucken muppet, I said James dyno has a history of reading low.

And others get 390ish with a standard turbo, not a t04z.

im still running stock rear housing on mine and stock manifold. cant get more then 24.5psi in it though. But then again thats on e85!


See that E85 bit you mentioned, grab it, slap yourself in the face with it, stick it up your arse and then maybe you will get the point that your car can get 24psi for that reason.


iCER wrote:lol i understand the turbo breaths better and lower psi is needed to make the same power....but maxed out at 16psi? Just means it would make shitload more power (400+) with 20-21psi



Seems i obviously do understand more than most :) The t04z should make 23psi-24psi with good fuel.


You still fucking don't. The old turbo (35r) topped out at 16psi, this one is now topped at 19psi. You were stating the 35r could still run more boost and make more power, and it couldn't. Much like this turbo, it's now topped out on pump fuel.

And i am aware its on a t04z setup. hence i said what i did. stock turbo wouldnt make that power on tha boost on 98 lol. Maybe in qld/SA.

As it may be accurate, it defiantly isnt low reading.


How would you know? Stay out of this thread.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 9:06 am
by OED666
Let us know if you end up going to willowbank... I might go out and take a 6L ute down.. haha..

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 9:12 am
by NUT347
Also, I highly doubt that this thing will go to willowbank.

It's not a dyno queen, and it's not a drag car, it's a street car.

He isn't chasing dyno figures or drag times, he is just making sure the money he spends is making an improvement. Which in this case, hasn't made much. 382 on stock turbo, since then it's had a new manifold, t04z and external gate and only made 24rwkw more is what I was getting too.

406 is low for what's been done, but a 24rwkw gain is more to the point of **** all gain.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 9:43 am
by needfordspeed
NUT347 wrote:
ab_futura wrote:I'd be interest to hear his thoughts are on how it spools. With that setup, I wanted to achieve really quick spool and solid mid-range torque rather than top end numbers. It should be very responsive on the street. Is this thing manual? E85 time!!!!


It spikes about 22psi apparently at about 2800rpm, then tapers off to 19psi at around 6500.

It's manual.


That is gonna be mental, I hope it's got good tyres

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 10:00 am
by Jet
I see what you're saying, and 406 does seem low. I think driving it will tell a different story. Test street cars on the street.....

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 8:14 pm
by NUT347
needfordspeed wrote:
NUT347 wrote:
ab_futura wrote:I'd be interest to hear his thoughts are on how it spools. With that setup, I wanted to achieve really quick spool and solid mid-range torque rather than top end numbers. It should be very responsive on the street. Is this thing manual? E85 time!!!!


It spikes about 22psi apparently at about 2800rpm, then tapers off to 19psi at around 6500.

It's manual.


That is gonna be mental, I hope it's got good tyres


I'll def get a video when I'm back!

Jet wrote:I see what you're saying, and 406 does seem low. I think driving it will tell a different story. Test street cars on the street.....


Yeah.. I'll wait till I'm back before I decide if it's worth it or not... Brent is already talking a bigger turbo lol.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 9:27 pm
by edfairmont4.0
I bet it has shit loads more power through the whole rev range though top end KW means shit!

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 1st, 2012, 10:44 pm
by justa6
with a good set of tyre's (et's) this would jam you in the seat so hard. would be hard to beat with it coming on so early.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 2nd, 2012, 2:09 am
by iCER
never heard anyone max out theese turbos on 16psi. Must be magic.

so from 383 to 406...worth all that coin, gear, and turnaround time?

Each to their own.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 2nd, 2012, 5:02 am
by NUT347
dumbshit wrote:never heard anyone max out theese turbos on 16psi. Must be magic.


That's because;

A: you have no idea what your talking about and

B: you didn't build your car.

dumbshit wrote:so from 383 to 406...worth all that coin, gear, and turnaround time?

Each to their own.


NUT347 wrote:Also, I highly doubt that this thing will go to willowbank.

It's not a dyno queen, and it's not a drag car, it's a street car.

He isn't chasing dyno figures or drag times, he is just making sure the money he spends is making an improvement. Which in this case, hasn't made much. 382 on stock turbo, since then it's had a new manifold, t04z and external gate and only made 24rwkw more is what I was getting too.

406 is low for what's been done, but a 24rwkw gain is more to the point of **** all gain.


You can read cant you? The little gain has already been discussed mate, watch out innovator cause I got ya covered ;)

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 2nd, 2012, 6:29 am
by Jet
I just found the thread I started on xr6turbo.com from back when I was researching different setups. http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic ... try1078727

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 2nd, 2012, 8:44 am
by krisisdog
iCER wrote:never heard anyone max out theese turbos on 16psi. Must be magic.

so from 383 to 406...worth all that coin, gear, and turnaround time?

Each to their own.

You do understand psi is a measure of resistance? Less resistance = less psi

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 2nd, 2012, 4:24 pm
by NUT347
Looking around it seems the rear housing is a bit to small.

1.06 coming soon lol.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 2nd, 2012, 4:45 pm
by iCER
lol....

just saying :)

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 2nd, 2012, 4:51 pm
by NUT347
Don't worry mate, we all laugh at you because of the dribble that seems to end up on this site.

...oh wait, so does every other fucken forum.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 3rd, 2012, 2:50 am
by iCER
lol oh nos!

shame it wont make it to the track. hopefully the car owner actually enjoys it though!

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 7th, 2012, 5:33 pm
by bng
How's the diff holding up with that much power?

brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 7th, 2012, 7:28 pm
by 09SR5
they love it. mine went bang and spat the carrier out the back doing skids shifting upwards through gears etc.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 8th, 2012, 1:11 am
by iCER
he has live vids of evidence too! hah :D

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 8th, 2012, 7:31 am
by NUT347
Yeah diff is fine. CVs are getting noisy though.

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 13th, 2012, 12:58 pm
by NUT347
Dyno sheet, it really shows how hard it comes on :P

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Vid 1: bit of first, then a short shift into second= wheelspin to 100 and back off.

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Vid 2: 2nd gear rolling at 60.. Plant foot, wheelspin all the way through second, bit of spin into 3rd then 4th till about 6100rpm/200km/h

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Goes wayy better then it did with the 35, more mid range, comes on harder, more top end, doesn't hear soak as much. Definitely a better car all round. 24rwkw isn't much of a gain, but once you go in it the money is well worth it!

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 13th, 2012, 1:41 pm
by Michael (HYPOEB)
Comes on hard! :grin:
Didnt take long to hit 200 hey,You damn Queenslanders and your private roads :P

Re: brents BF XR6T, 406rwkw

PostPosted: June 13th, 2012, 2:47 pm
by NUT347
Haha yeah, that was a private road :lol: