Dan's GQ Patrol / KTM rebuild

[Dansedgli]

Yep, just picked it up and was on the way home.

[InfernalTyrant]

Got any photos of it?

I want to keep it legal so not that much lift. I think I can fit 35's with not much lift anyway. It's all pending funds which are short until Ifinish doing what I need to do on the house.

Saw this on the Patrol forum, looks neat. 35's will rub unless you fit big offset rims or cut guards or extend bump stops no matter what lift you have. I think you can space the diff forward about 15mm though and they're pretty good.

[Dansedgli]

I only had the radius arm spacers in the shorty and it was fine.

2 inch lift and lots of cutting if needed suits me.

First mod today sorta. Invested $114 in a pipe bender. Practise bend worked out pretty good. it came with a proper non Chinese die for the pipe I want to bend but this was done with a standard die.




Next on the list is to sneak a plasma cutter into the shed.

[superhuS!]

Tubular chassis?

[Dansedgli]

Nah. Nothing that fancy. It doesn't bend tube, just pipe.

Sliders, rear and front bars are on the list. I think I spent $3k on bar work for the maverick. Should only cost a couple hundred this time now that I have a welder and a bender.

[InfernalTyrant]

I'd love to be able to make my own bar work but I can't weld for shit. I dropped a deposit yesterday with Patrolapart in Lilydale for a Millweld commercial bar, a mate is gonna make me some scrub bars.
If you pack the tube with wet sand the bends don't kink, but your bend looks pretty good.

[Parfrey]

How's it coming along Dan?

[Dansedgli]

Yeah alright. Kinda made a decision not to spend much cash on it because it's only used for camping and hunting so far, it gets to those places ok.

I rebuilt the carb a few weeks back and I'm in the middle of making a light bar to sit above the rear tyre. Also bought a head unit off misk so I can plug my iPhone in. The alpine deck in it must have been made in 1989 too.

I'm pretty sure my aux tank has a leak so I need to pull that out and fix it.

When I get some time I'll start looking at making bar work. Sliders and a rear bar with chopped quarters so I can remove some panel damage maybe.

I started a new hobby a few weeks ago so that is taking up a bit of time. The Upside is that I get to play with these:

[donno]

The G19 is pretty easy to pick, what's the other one? Styling looks like a .45 Tanfoglio? I've been out of the game for a while . What do you shoot? IPSC? Silhouette?

[Dansedgli]

It's just a pic I got off the net so I'm not sure.

I joined a club 4 weeks ago and my probationary license hasn't come back yet.

I've only shot in unofficial air pistol comps so far. When the license arrives I'll start shooting all the other ones. It's a pita to shoot other comps under a nori form at my club. I want to eventually do ipsc and practical but think my first gun will be a 22 of some sort.

I've Only had a go with a couple of 9mm glocks, ruger 22's, s&w 627's in 38 super, I think a gsg 1911 and some fancy air pistols so far.

It's good fun.

[donno]

Personally I'd go the 9mm glock - its the best all rounder if you just want to shoot. Recoil is manageable yet it has enough punch for silhouette.

22's are cheap as chips but there isn't really much you can do with them. You're restricted to matches like Standard Match (I think that's the name...) which IMO is pretty boring. They can't knock over a silhouette unless you hit the thing dead on and many of them are a PITA to reload quickly which will give you the shits in Action Match and IPSC. The old man had a Ruger 22 semi auto and the magazine was thin and recessed into the grip, really hard to locate the slot and you had to get your fingers in there to seat it properly. If you didn't it would jam the round in the chamber as soon as you released the slide.

The glock on the other hand is plastic and chuncky - really easy to locate in the grip and the bottom of the magazine sits over it. You just slam the thing in there and it's almost impossible to stuff up. Also because they're made out of plastic you don't feel bad dropping an empty mag in the dirt in the heat of the moment.

Admittedly the glock is not as accurate as most 22s, but when you're starting off chances are you're spraying rounds all over the shop anyway .

[Dansedgli]

Yeah good points. I was thinking from an ammo cost perspective. I like to shoot lots.

In the end I'll have both but I'm only allowed to have 1 22 or centrefire in the first year.

I figure I won't need to buy reloading gear straight away if get a 22. That gives me time to enlarge my shed and seal it so I can fit a dillon in there.

The club has heaps of club 22's and only a couple of 9mm glocks though so maybe the glock would be a better choice. I think a glock will be my first centrefire either way but I want a shiny silver 1911 of some sort too.

Your right about the mags on the rugers, it was frustrating to load.

What comps did you shoot? Metallic silhouette looks like fun to me but they don't do comps at my club for it. You can practise there with magnum calibers but only at certain times so I think it's a zoning issue or something.

[Ef_frmnt]

Reloading will not only be cheaper, but will improve your accuracy. It's surprising how much smaller you can get a ten shot spread with a fixed rest weapon with shots you reload yourself and accurately measure the loads.

Personally I'd go the Glock 9mm for a starting pistol as well.

[Dansedgli]

Yeah I'm a fan of reloading. I do it for my rifles but a progressive dillon with the bells and whistles is expensive and takes up a fair bit of space. My shed is already full!

[donno]

I'll shoot whatever match is running but my favorites are IPSC and Western Action. The old man has quite a collection (over 20 firearms at last count) so we've always got the right tool for the job. (I don't have any pistols personally - only a .17 air rifle and a 22 rifle. Still renting so I can't bolt a safe in to expand the collection.)

The club back home (Chinchilla SSAA) is really lucky as we can shoot just about anything. The fallout zone is about 2km of scrub so just about anything shy of a 50 cal is do-able. Every now and again we do a bastardised Western Action match where we use pistol (whatever you bring), lever action rifle and double barrel shotgun, all in a single round. Points based on hit/miss and quickest time, shooting around/through baracades, inside barrels etc. You wouldn't think you could miss an A2 paper sized target at 5m with a shotgun, but believe me I've done it before when the adrenalin starts pumping .

[donno]

Yeah I'm a fan of reloading. I do it for my rifles but a progressive dillon with the bells and whistles is expensive and takes up a fair bit of space. My shed is already full!

Surely you only need the 9mm die set to get started then? ~$80 IIRC. Can't remember what it costs the old man to reload, 15c a pop rings a bell? That's about the same price for 50 as a mid range target pack of 22.

[Dansedgli]

I don't want to load one at a time. It would take ages to put that many rounds together!!

[donno]

And how much time in the past have you spent modding a car only to sell it a month later?

[Dansedgli]

What's that got to do with the price of bullets?

Reloading gear is like tools. It lasts forever and you can never have enough.

[donno]

Nothing, just trying to make a lame point about comparable time invested vs fun had....

Just buy a glock already would you.

[Dansedgli]

Ahh I get ya.

The waiting game sucks otherwise I'd have one already.

[Parfrey]

How did rebuilding the carb go? I've thought about doing mine (cos it uses like 25L/100k) but it looks messy, so i'll just run it on gas until the V8 goes in b

I need to make one of those light holders too.. its on the list! lol.

Its so easy to spend big $$$ on them hey, although they are pretty decent/fun with just the basics.

Guns look like mad fun!

[Dansedgli]

Yeah they are bad for that. I think I spent close to $20k on the maverick.

Carbs are easy. Just put it back together the way it came after a good clean out.

Mine was missing a spring so I replaced it but it didn't work properly so I took it out again.

[Parfrey]

Does it go any better now that you cleaned it? better on fuel?
I've played with a lot of carby's before (bikes) but the mav carb looks like a pos, I'd rather spend the time and effort on the V8 haha.

[Dansedgli]

Yeah it's better.

The only problem was that it didn't idle before. Now it does so it fixed it.

Not sure on fuel economy as my petrol gauge is busted. Ive only filled both tanks twice since I bought it and the carby has only been working properly for a week or so. Once I use up the petrol that's in it now I'm gonna pull the tank out and have a look for this leak and fix the sender.

Just leave it on gas until you do the V8.

25/100 is about the norm anyway. The petrol motors are fucken shit for economy. The diesels are heaps better in that respect. Less fuel used = more kms per fill which is handy on big trips.

[Dansedgli]

I took off my side steps the other week because the factory ones are shithouse and mine were a bit bent. I found that the front bracket had rusted all the way through the floor.

I cut that section out and welded a new bit in.

Then I pulled out the entire interior for a look and found some more rust damage in the front passenger quarter behind the kick panel.

When I get time Ill pull off the front quarter and patch it up. I reckon its had a hit and never been fixed properly. That's what I get for buying off a car dealer but its gives me an excuse to use my welder. Still want to chop the quarters and make barwork too.

In the meantime I got my provisional licence and played with one of these:



Its a club Ruger 22/45. Everyone I speak to says they are shit but its still fun slinging ammo down the range in a rapid fashion.

[InfernalTyrant]

You got sliders to put on or something, or just gonna leave it with no steps? Debating whether or not to take mine off or not, they're pretty bent in one bit lol.

[Dansedgli]

I'll put some on when I make them.

[OMY-747]

Got any photos of it?

I want to keep it legal so not that much lift. I think I can fit 35's with not much lift anyway. It's all pending funds which are short until Ifinish doing what I need to do on the house.

Saw this on the Patrol forum, looks neat. 35's will rub unless you fit big offset rims or cut guards or extend bump stops no matter what lift you have. I think you can space the diff forward about 15mm though and they're pretty good.

15mm radius arm spacers and a 2" lift and mine cleared the 35's. -22 15x8's.

Anyway, nice car man. What did it set you back if you don't mind me asking?

[Dansedgli]

$1800 with rwc and rego.

[private9]

$1800 with rwc and rego.

That's a seriously good buy for a GQ!

[TUFED6]

Jeez skip the forum for a bit and Dan has turned into a full blown gun nut. Jokes! Please dont shoot me!!

[OMY-747]

$1800 with rwc and rego.

Man that's almost $9,000 cheaper then mine

[Parfrey]

Is that factoring in the VX or something? if not.. sick buy!

Which forum/s do you go on for patrol stuff? I'm looking for any V8 related shit as well...

[apoc]

I thought thats what they're worth? I just bought a GQ, cost about 2K

Edit - Just saw that was with a rwc. Pretty decent then!

[Dansedgli]

$1800 with rwc and rego.

Man that's almost $9,000 cheaper then mine

Yours is $9000 too expensive. Didn't you drown it pretty bad?

The prices most people ask are rediculous. I bought my maverick probably 5 years ago for $8500. It was mint. Nowadays some people are still asking that much and more. They are dreaming.

Parfrey - http://forum.mudrhino.com.au/ and patrol4x4.com mainly. http://nissanpatrol.com.au/ and Outerlimits4x4 are there too. I hardly go on any of them these days.

Nissanpatrol and mudrhino are painful to read but if your only looking to buy shit they'd be worth a look.

[OMY-747]

Yeah, but I still can't find another series 2 st for under 8 regardless of what motor is in it. Yeah drowned it pretty good, but only the cd player, UHF and clock started to play up everything is working just as it should all the local car yards have ones that are pretty shit for $10,000 and they are selling

Probably also perth4x4 has a little bit also, but not as much as the ones Dan already listed.

[Dansedgli]

How come your car ad said price drop to $8k and you're saying its $11k now?

I reckon the only reason car yards sell anything is because they take trade ins and sell with a RWC. Selling old cars is such a head **** these days its much easier to just swap it over and take the small hit on selling price. Likewise with trying to get a rwc when you work a normal full time job during the week.

Are you selling yours with rego and a rwc?

I wouldn't buy a patrol without a rwc anymore. I've found so much dodgy shit on mine. Dunno how it passed as it was.

[OMY-747]

Mine was advertised for $12,500, I got it for $10,500. I dropped the price I was selling it for to 8. But now if I sell it it'll be with a rwc so that I can get some more and make it easier to sell. Spose the selling point for me to buy it was a mint starting base, now I realize that may not of been the smartest idea for 4wding lol.

I have thought of buying another one for 2k putting all the good shit of mine on it then selling mine

[Dansedgli]

Jeez skip the forum for a bit and Dan has turned into a full blown gun nut. Jokes! Please dont shoot me!!

Not a gun nut. A gun enthusiast!!

Damn hoons and their judgmental assumptions.