Uhuh, XR6T for Yagz as well...

by **Yagz** » April 1st, 2009, 2:50 pm

I am so mad.

I picked up a second hand CAPA flash tune off a guy yesterday, and decided to plug it in and flash it to the generic 10psi tune this morning before work..

Everything was going great, and the car was running so good! about 15 mins into the drive i was on boost at about 4600rpm i heard a huge bang, lost power and the oil light came on! I shat my pants and pulled over, only to find this on the side of my block under the turbo....

This is the sump....

What the hell can i do??? It looks like it was running lean, and the rod has shot through the block. I didn't hear any pinging?

Do FTG Auto salvage do XR6T motors?

Fark!@#@$#

by **EFFalcon** » April 1st, 2009, 2:52 pm

its still april 1st yeah?

by **Yagz** » April 1st, 2009, 2:53 pm

You've gotta make the joke before 1pm john.. i wish

by **TUFED6** » April 1st, 2009, 3:00 pm

Fail.

You're using blucbrrr's photobucket. Who is Built2redline on AFF.

Next.

by **Yagz** » April 1st, 2009, 3:04 pm

hahaha, I knew i should have saved the pictures and re-uploaded them. haha.

Nice one.

by **Troutman** » April 11th, 2009, 3:03 pm

Good one Mr Yagz, nice machine you've got there too. :grin:

by **Yagz** » April 27th, 2009, 8:48 pm

Hey guys,

Picked the car up from Mick @ Pit Lane Automotive this afternoon after a custom tune...

All I've done to the car from when i bought it stock is...

- NGK Iridium 0.8mm plugs
- Typhoon lower airbox and intake
- BMC panel filter
- New fuel filter
- 82 degree high flow Tridon thermostat
- Engine Oil change with Shell fully synthetic/T56 Gearbox oil change with Mainlube Solid Boundary gear oil/Diff oil change with Penrite LS90
- Alloy CSC
- Cleaned out the throttle body
- Added a Turbosmart Dual Port 25mm BOV (and set the pressure to dose at ~2psi, and make the psschh noise at 4-5psi)
- Wired up tripod gauges with Boost (working)/Oil Pressure (working)/AFR gauge (not working)
- Have been running it on BP ultimate 98 since I purchased it a month ago..

I was very happy at the results!

Max power: 273.1rwkw @ 140kph @ ~10psi (12psi most of the way through the rev range, but needed to taper the boost off at higher rpm due to stock injectors..)

Stock it made 201.8rwkw @ 156kph

To say the least, I am blown away! Mick did everything i wanted, and more. I am so bloody upset it is raining, as i couldn't stretch its legs at all on the way home! Just wheel spinned and traction controlled everywhere! haha. Rain for the next 3 days too! But I'm too happy about the tune today to let it worry me. Plenty of time to give it a real go soon enough..

All in all the car went really well. There weren't any major dramas with the setup, but that my injectors were letting me down. They are running pretty flat out at this power right now, and probably would have made close to 290rwkw with a set of injectors and we could have let the boost keep going and not backed it off top end. But then you start running into valve spring issues, clutch issues, etc....

Anyway, here are the graphs

Big big thanks to Mick at Pit Lane. What a champion! :drinks2:

Cheers,
Christiaan

by **EFFalcon** » April 27th, 2009, 8:55 pm

great power with so little done.

by **Commando** » April 27th, 2009, 9:42 pm

Nice! Bring on the dry weather!

by **Dansedgli** » April 27th, 2009, 9:50 pm

Whens the wedding?

by **Sunboost** » April 27th, 2009, 10:25 pm

Hope ur clutch lasts.

How much have you spent on it so far?

by **Yagz** » April 27th, 2009, 11:34 pm

i'll have to drive it in the dry to comment on the clutch.

around 3k for everything to get it to this stage (that includes an unfortunate and expensive mishap at G & D that i won't talk about on here)

Dan, i was super impressed with Mick. You should see this guys workshop. Cleanest, tidiest, most efficient workshop ever.

by **needfordspeed** » April 28th, 2009, 12:04 am

Tell us about G&D....no workshop secrets here

But good stuff, must be alotta fun now

by **Yagz** » April 28th, 2009, 7:47 am

I took the car to G & D to get the clutch bled, and they snapped the bleed nipple off. Charged me for labour and a new alloy CSC. Labour was $110 an hour...... For people who know the VACC guidelines for how long it takes to remove and refit a gearbox in an XR6T will know how much the cost blew out. + $260 for the CSC. :banghead:

by **NUT347** » April 28th, 2009, 8:27 am

they snapped it? i woulda told them to fix it at their cost...

by **Yagz** » April 28th, 2009, 9:00 am

NUT347 wrote:they snapped it? i woulda told them to fix it at their cost...

believe me, i tried. apparently if it falls apart in their hands undo-ing it, it's not their fault. but if they broke it tightening it, it is.

so yeah, live and learn. couldn't get out of it otherwise i wouldn't have got my keys back i don't think ..

anyway, super happy with the power. it's insanely different from stock. once it hits boost, shit gets scary in the wet.

rain rain go away...

by **t1MMy** » April 28th, 2009, 9:32 am

Yagz wrote:apparently if it falls apart in their hands undo-ing it, it's not their fault. but if they broke it tightening it, it is.

What.......the.......fvck!!! :scratch:

by **Yagz** » April 28th, 2009, 9:38 am

t1MMy wrote:
Yagz wrote:apparently if it falls apart in their hands undo-ing it, it's not their fault. but if they broke it tightening it, it is.

What.......the.......fvck!!!

I've spoken to a couple of mechanics, and they're all kind of in agreeance to what G & D said.. Anyway, G & D were good and knocked an hour off the labour charge (but i had to get a taxi back to work from G & D, then one back to pick it up) so it didn't really make a difference..

I was going to get G & D to do everything, but after that mishap, thought i'd better not...

by **Sunboost** » April 28th, 2009, 7:27 pm

Does it axle tramp hard in the wet?

My BF did. The BA is lowered and it doesn't.

The BF sounded like it'd throw the diff cradle through the rear floor every time it got wheel spin in the wet.

by **old_mate** » April 28th, 2009, 8:18 pm

well yea, if they snap something unbolting it i can understand, although thought they might do a little to help with the cost...should have done the clutch while the box was out!

by **Kenaz** » April 28th, 2009, 8:19 pm

Great stuff Chris!

We've gotta catch up so I can see this thing in action

by **Yagz** » April 29th, 2009, 12:12 am

Sunny, i've got red adjustable koni's all round, it axle tramps a little but nothing major.

got to drive it a little bit tonight in the dry, and yes, i'm hooked. love the extra power. not looking forward to when i get used to it though..

by **Sunboost** » April 30th, 2009, 10:42 am

Getting used to power is bad :cry:

by **Yagz** » April 30th, 2009, 2:20 pm

Kenaz wrote:Great stuff Chris!

We've gotta catch up so I can see this thing in action

hey bud. I'm about to go and see when the next cruise is, and i'll try and be there.

hows your car going?

by **pHaT`eL** » April 30th, 2009, 8:02 pm

Next cruise is this Sunday

by **Yagz** » May 1st, 2009, 9:36 am

im working on sunday unfortunately.. gotta work twice as hard to keep the petrol tank full on the T.. haha.

by **Yagz** » May 1st, 2009, 10:18 am

Sundeep wrote:Hope ur clutch lasts.

clutch is slipping in 4th sometimes, and 5th if i load it up.. mal wood option 3 coming soon .....

by **Troutman** » May 1st, 2009, 10:15 pm

Can I just clarify, 273kW with a stock exhaust??

by **Parfrey** » May 1st, 2009, 10:28 pm

i'd say its the stock exhaust...
thats some pretty good power man! the stock injectors must be on their limit yeah? sometimes i think i'd rather a manual.. prolly more fun

by **Yagz** » May 2nd, 2009, 1:06 pm

hey guys,

yeah 273rwkw on stock everything, only mods are a typhoon lower intake, and bmc filter.. There was a run there when it leaned out, where it made 289rwkw.. obviously Mick pulled the boost and timing back top end to ensure everything was running good top end, and it brought it back down to 273.

The injectors are running at something like 96 - 98% duty cycle at full power. still fine, just maxxing out almost. Mick said to keep an ear out for pinging if i get a bad batch of fuel, but no pinging at all yet.. The manual certainly is a lot of fun, but its not fun to be changing clutches once you get more power.. I love manuals so much, but im kind of wishing i got a ZF auto now. clutches are expensive, and mines slipping in 4th and 5th a little bit now, so a new one is on the agenda shortly. Probably go a mal wood option 3.

The car really moves now, it's amazing how much more power it has. I'd recommend a tune as one of the first things you do to really liven these cars up. :drinks2:

by **Troutman** » May 2nd, 2009, 9:40 pm

Manual or not, that's an amazing effort mate. I think the only way I'm going to remain happy with my car is by avoiding this damn site. :mrgreen:

by **67rce** » May 2nd, 2009, 9:55 pm

Yagz wrote:hey guys,

yeah 273rwkw on stock everything, only mods are a typhoon lower intake, and bmc filter.. There was a run there when it leaned out, where it made 289rwkw.. obviously Mick pulled the boost and timing back top end to ensure everything was running good top end, and it brought it back down to 273.

The injectors are running at something like 96 - 98% duty cycle at full power. still fine, just maxxing out almost. Mick said to keep an ear out for pinging if i get a bad batch of fuel, but no pinging at all yet.. The manual certainly is a lot of fun, but its not fun to be changing clutches once you get more power.. I love manuals so much, but im kind of wishing i got a ZF auto now. clutches are expensive, and mines slipping in 4th and 5th a little bit now, so a new one is on the agenda shortly. Probably go a mal wood option 3.

The car really moves now, it's amazing how much more power it has. I'd recommend a tune as one of the first things you do to really liven these cars up.

Ask Rollin what clutch he has, all i know is it is a Mal Wood twinplate that can cop a lot of abuse

by **Yagz** » May 3rd, 2009, 9:20 pm

Jack, thanks mate. I guess i got lucky with mine, everything is tight. My gearbox is running a gear oil specially formulated for the T56 by a company called mainlube, and the changes are still a bit notchy. The guy reckons 3 - 5% of the T56's that his oil goes into experience the extra notchiness, because they are a tight box, and the sliding areas are still good... It should sort itself out by me driving it for a few months.
How does your car go with the LS1 edit? Did they do a full custom tune? Is it the same as a Xcal flash tuner?

67rce, I will be getting the same clutch as low_xr, it's a single plate Option 3 clutch. it should hold around 400rwkw (only rated to 340rwkw, but mal always under rates his clutches by a lot to allow for tolerances). He has a guy with a 410rwkw ute running his option 3 clutch, and no dramas yet apparently. He makes a good clutch.

by **bentls** » May 3rd, 2009, 9:25 pm

Yagz wrote:Jack, thanks mate. I guess i got lucky with mine, everything is tight. My gearbox is running a gear oil specially formulated for the T56 by a company called mainlube, and the changes are still a bit notchy. The guy reckons 3 - 5% of the T56's that his oil goes into experience the extra notchiness, because they are a tight box, and the sliding areas are still good... It should sort itself out by me driving it for a few months.
How does your car go with the LS1 edit? Did they do a full custom tune? Is it the same as a Xcal flash tuner?

67rce, I will be getting the same clutch as low_xr, it's a single plate Option 3 clutch. it should hold around 400rwkw (only rated to 340rwkw, but mal always under rates his clutches by a lot to allow for tolerances). He has a guy with a 410rwkw ute running his option 3 clutch, and no dramas yet apparently. He makes a good clutch.

he(exedy) makes a good clutch. lol

by **LOW_XR** » May 3rd, 2009, 9:40 pm

i got told the option 3 held 370rwkw and the option 3+ held 400 rwkw.

by **Yagz** » May 3rd, 2009, 10:20 pm

bentls wrote:he(exedy) makes a good clutch. lol

Yeah, it's an excedy clutch plate, but overall it's his design i think?

low_xr, he mentioned some things on another forum about the option 3 and option 3 plus.

Here is what he said:

"A company in SA called LMG has an XR6T and they told me a week or two ago that they are now running 430 rwkw with an option 3 and it has been in the ute for over two years, that really amazed me and that convinces me that when it comes to holding capability it all comes down to how the car is driven.
I still only rate them to 370 rwkw, this seems to be quite comfortable with this clutch but it all comes down to how the car is driven.
Regards, Mal "

The option 3 plus has 30% more clamping pressure and will obviously hold more power. I guess you could run 450rwkw through the option 3 plus as long as you were nice to it... judging by the under rated figures from mal.

by **Troutman** » May 7th, 2009, 12:38 pm

Yagz wrote:Jack, thanks mate. I guess i got lucky with mine, everything is tight. My gearbox is running a gear oil specially formulated for the T56 by a company called mainlube, and the changes are still a bit notchy. The guy reckons 3 - 5% of the T56's that his oil goes into experience the extra notchiness, because they are a tight box, and the sliding areas are still good... It should sort itself out by me driving it for a few months.
How does your car go with the LS1 edit? Did they do a full custom tune? Is it the same as a Xcal flash tuner?

Custom oil is good :mrgreen:

, otherwise I would recommend Castrol Transmax Z fully synthetic.

My VT was tuned by the previous owner so unfortunately I don't know the details, but the tune and air intake mod gained 20% rwkw on the day. Still, it's only around 192 rwkw now, so the next step would be an exhaust system...

Anyways, hope to catch your beast at a cruise some time. :mrgreen:

by **Yagz** » May 13th, 2009, 3:49 pm

got a couple of presents in the mail ....

420 flow length x 360 height x 90mm (core only) bar & plate cooler powdercoated black for stealthness..

mal wood short shifter + shortened stick

waiting on mal's option 3 clutch to come tomorrow :drinks2:

by **Parfrey** » May 13th, 2009, 6:23 pm

hmm looks like more fun! what cooler is that?? :grin:

by **bentls** » May 13th, 2009, 6:44 pm

looks kinda like a early nizpro one.. similar to the wog cooler and uses stock piping...

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