Rollin wrote:Watch this space people - the man from the bush can steer
Rollin wrote:At least I can deal with it while driving my boyfriend around in my car each weekend
NUT347 wrote:Diff gears are important too, I found with the fairlane 4.11s where the best. Not everyones cup of tea but they served us well.
Also a small steering wheel helps alot too.
And make sure you have a fcking good clutch, you NEED that burst of power (clutch dump) to get you into the corner. I would say a handbrake is better, but we all know falcon handbrakes are shithouse.
Rollin wrote:Watch this space people - the man from the bush can steer
What Is Drifting?
The absolute bare bones aim of drifting is to get your car sideways(duh right?) around corners and straights. It doesn't really sound like the most complicated thing to do now, the thing is it's not really as easy as simply powersliding round corners.
The whole point is to keep a continuous drift(sideways movement). So instead of trying to correct the car out of a slide the driver attempts to overcorrect in a controlled way to continue the drift.
If you want to practice drifting, you'll need to find yourself a set of corners that are reasonably sharp and in quick succession.
A professional drifter has the skills to be able to link together numerous corners without ever gaining traction - so that is your goal!
There are two main ways to begin a drift.
1. This technique involves making use of the clutch and accelerator. Basically a driver will change down a gear (usually 2nd) rev the car to ~4 - 5000rpm(again depends on car), turn away from the corner then sharply back towards it. At the same time popping the clutch to cause the rear wheels to lose traction. Once traction is lost and the driver has started the drift it's a matter of controlling the accelerator and steering(more of this a little later).
2. The second technique is mainly used by fwd cars (infact it's the only way to drift fwd cars. With this method you need to make use of your hand brake.It's probably the easier method to learn initially. You simply need to pull up the hand brake when you are approaching the corner to break traction.
Once You've Broken Traction (what next?)
Ok so you've broken traction what next?
Keep your foot on the accelerator and adjust the direction of you car with the steering wheel. If you've ever been on a skid pan or slid your car around corners, you'll know that your car will travel in the direction of your front wheels even if you've lost traction at the rear.
Drifting is a bit of an art so you will really need to get to know your car before attempting anything to hairy. Trying to keep your car on the edge with out letting the tail spin right out. As you reach the end of the corner/turn, you'll need to get yourself lined up for the next turn. Again this will involve getting to know your car, how it handles drift etc etc
hope that gives you a good start
Rollin wrote:Watch this space people - the man from the bush can steer
Keep your foot on the accelerator and adjust the direction of you car with the steering wheel. If you've ever been on a skid pan or slid your car around corners, you'll know that your car will travel in the direction of your front wheels even if you've lost traction at the rear.
bentls wrote:Keep your foot on the accelerator and adjust the direction of you car with the steering wheel. If you've ever been on a skid pan or slid your car around corners, you'll know that your car will travel in the direction of your front wheels even if you've lost traction at the rear.
now im no drift king but...... isnt most of it throttle steering not wheel steering....
keep foot buried is only gonna help so much... but too much and u loop blah blah blah....
elaborate for me rollin haha
bentls wrote:basically if you have a car thats in forza do the expensive homework setting up new parts and changing alignment and gearing on forza... find what works then go buy it in real life
and yeha thats what i was getting at, when drifting half the time ur not holding the wheel its doin its own thangggg
bentls wrote:yeh let go of wheel and it straightens itself up, feels awesome feeling the wheel turn on its own the first few times u do it an realised its a mint trick lol.. i used to try and do all the steering myself and used to epic fail it... still do, but last longer before failing now haha
sdoylie wrote:remember for every problem there is always the right sized hammer to fix it.
bigdell wrote:(growing up on a farm does have some advantages).
bentls wrote:bigdell wrote:(growing up on a farm does have some advantages).
yeah if you have a sister least you have a garanteed root.
jokes of course haha
sdoylie wrote:remember for every problem there is always the right sized hammer to fix it.
bigdell wrote:bentls wrote:bigdell wrote:(growing up on a farm does have some advantages).
yeah if you have a sister least you have a garanteed root.
jokes of course haha
thats just wrong.
and i don't like in Tasmania.
and i don't have a sister.
but my neighbor has daughters.
bigdell wrote:bentls wrote:bigdell wrote:(growing up on a farm does have some advantages).
yeah if you have a sister least you have a garanteed root.
jokes of course haha
thats just wrong.
and i don't like in Tasmania.
and i don't have a sister.
but my neighbor has daughters.
Rollin wrote:Actually that is something that a lot of people have trouble with - as you pop the clutch you really need to let go of the steering wheel and let the car do the countersteering for you. It's much faster and more accurate than doing it for yourself - You just have to learn when to grab it again.
Rollin wrote:Watch this space people - the man from the bush can steer
Rollin wrote:Actually that is something that a lot of people have trouble with - as you pop the clutch you really need to let go of the steering wheel and let the car do the countersteering for you. It's much faster and more accurate than doing it for yourself - You just have to learn when to grab it again.
Rollin wrote:Watch this space people - the man from the bush can steer
Rollin wrote:My car is set up at 1.25* neg camber, 0 toe, and as much castor as they could get (which isn't much on early e-series, IIRC about 4* or something?)
If you wanted a more track based setup you'd use as much camber as you could (2* or more) and I reckon you'd toe the wheels in a bit to compensate for toe changes due to ackerman angles (with stock cars on full lock your 'leading' wheel is turned further than the 'trailing' wheel, so the trailing wheel drags and slows the front down, making it easier to spin).
Not sure if the toe changes are a good plan though, I've not actually tried it. In theory it's great lol.
Oh and chose carfly where you get tyres fitted and wheel aliments done.
lawler wrote:
A mate got new tyres only didnt get a wheel aliment or anything done on his gtr and the jouinor manger decided he needed to test drive it and when my mate picked it up it didnt had 3rd gear and the company got out of fixing it with some bullshit about needing to road test to make shore the tyres were balanced correctly and the person who was driving didnt cain it it was the clutch is to harsh for the gearbox and recomended that my mate get a softer clutch
Rollin wrote:Watch this space people - the man from the bush can steer
BI6TIM wrote:Well it has this ticking noise, if you've never heard it before and don't have experience with SR20, you'd swear it's some kind of valve train noise but apparently you'd be wrong. I took it down to John at Hi-Power Racing for him to have a listen to it and he got this concerned look on his face straight away. Apparently it's something to do with a piston. Only two choices, replace motor or rebuild motor, so I'm going to do both.
John said it was because of the mods the car has without proper management and an exhaust leak on top of that. Works fine for the daily driver but when it comes to the stresses of track work, that sort of setup doesn't cut it, clearly.
Anyway, to make this post relevant to the thread, here's a piece of advise all should take on: Never get a wheel alignment at a tire shop, they make their money from selling tires, why would they give you a good wheel alignment when they can make money out of you wearing tires quickly.
Rollin wrote:Watch this space people - the man from the bush can steer
bushman wrote:RB30/26 that shit cool factor increase by 11ty billion gazillion%
lawler wrote:Or 25/30 a bit of stuffing to get it to handle right
BI6TIM wrote: My 200 will never have anything other than SR20 in it. If it breaks again while drifting it will not drift again, simple.
Back on topic of handling, if you want to greatly improve the handling of your falcon, put an SR20 in it! Throw some Pedders coil overs in the front and my custom King springs and Oztec shocks in the back. 30mm front sway bar and 28mm rear bar (which I can also supply for you). That would be a sweat setup for drift.
Rollin wrote:Watch this space people - the man from the bush can steer
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