bentls new boxcar "shazza"

misk · Post by **misk** » June 24th, 2010, 7:49 am

lol 355s are quite good, but you need a better manifold than standard.
you will struggle to get more them 200rwkw with the bananas even with a 355.
with a better manifold, 300rwkw is the go with a big enough cam and comp to suit.
or theres tuffer whos running low 10s in a VS with a 355 and STOWLN also.
add some boost and theres 9s like aarons VL, even using the standard intake lol

bentls · Post by **bentls** » June 24th, 2010, 8:02 am

those starr manifolds i found out are just stock manifolds with the elbow cut off and a bigger one and bigger throttle body fitted... get decent power too i hear, so stock manifolds work well enough for me. im not going to be running 10s man

misk · Post by **misk** » June 24th, 2010, 9:12 am

the standard manifold with forced induction actually isn't bad.
its been proven to make decent power
just in n/a its no good above 200rwkw.

NickosEL · Post by **NickosEL** » June 24th, 2010, 9:43 am

The add on carsales says this car made 220rwkw...thread says 193rwkw...Did you get the issue sorted? What did it turn out to be?

Michael (HYPOEB) · Post by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » June 24th, 2010, 3:20 pm

Steady wrote:why is a 347 gay?

They just dont seem to make much power from whats involved from what i've seen,I could be wrong?
I remember when i was looking at buying EBOOST AU it was only making like 210rwkw with 347,edelbrock manifold and twin exhaust.

Post by **EFFalcon** » June 24th, 2010, 3:24 pm

its all about engine combo..
prob needed good heads.

misk · Post by **misk** » June 24th, 2010, 3:38 pm

and good manifold...

Michael (HYPOEB) · Post by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » June 24th, 2010, 3:54 pm

The edelbrock manifold was good,Better then the twin TB set up he had. But yeh your probley right john,The heads seem to be the let down,Some good heads would of fixed it up

misk · Post by **misk** » June 24th, 2010, 4:26 pm

lol sorry i missed the edelbrock part

bentls · Post by **bentls** » June 24th, 2010, 5:21 pm

also but remember group A manifolds for injected 5litres are like $5k if you can find them....

you get what you pay for tho, they are sick manifolds...

where in my ad does it say it makes 220rwkw?

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » June 24th, 2010, 5:26 pm

Manifolds, throttle bodies and heads will flow shitloads more in a boosted application.

Bunch of bananas is fine if you have boost - the money spent on a better manifold is better spent on facilitating more boost and/or fuel.

Post by **pHaT`eL** » June 24th, 2010, 7:32 pm

it says its GOOD FOR 220rwkw with the right tune

EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » June 24th, 2010, 7:58 pm

yeah windsor's heads suck have to spend good there to get good just as i sold it i got some afr185's which i still have and a better cam and it wouldve been up near 260+ id say.
cheers josh.

Post by **pHaT`eL** » June 24th, 2010, 8:01 pm

EBOOST wrote:yeah windsor's heads suck have to spend good there to get good just as i sold it i got some afr185's which i still have and a better cam and it wouldve been up near 260+ id say.
cheers josh.

feel like giving the afrs to me?

EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » June 24th, 2010, 8:07 pm

lol afr's arenbt cheap i got them second hand and they were still expensive.
been thinking of selling them but might put them on my xw.
cheers josh.

bentls · Post by **bentls** » June 24th, 2010, 10:39 pm

yella terra -9 alloy heads $4500 ish
group a manifold 4-5k if u can find it
so 9k already and havent even looked at the bottom end yet.....

thats why im selling this

private9 · Post by **private9** » June 24th, 2010, 11:00 pm

bentls wrote:yella terra -9 alloy heads $4500 ish
group a manifold 4-5k if u can find it
so 9k already and havent even looked at the bottom end yet.....

thats why im selling this

Boost raises the level a fair bit to where you need to worry about that stuff, plus there are cheaper ways of doing heads and manifold.

Why not raise the boost, get a decent tune, throw an LSD/minispool/lokka in and have some fun?

NickosEL · Post by **NickosEL** » June 25th, 2010, 10:01 am

Ahh my bad, just re-read it!

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 3rd, 2010, 9:39 am

getting retuned on the 16th.. same tuner who tuned it with the last motor...

out of curiosity i asked if he still had the files for the last tune and see what it made...

with a vn stock motor with a cam (unsure what cam) it made 245kw@ wheels...

so now it has a 185 motor not 165, but it has stock cam in it, will be interesting to see what it makes...

oh btw, it isnt 4psi like i thought, it turns out ive never really thrashed it enough to see what boost it makes.... 7.5 psi

ive never watched the boost gauge while on the limiter, and im told it has a 6k limiter lol

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » July 3rd, 2010, 2:38 pm

I bet that T5 is fair shitting itself right about now...

Post by **needfordspeed** » July 3rd, 2010, 3:45 pm

So was the 193rwkw made on 4 psi or 7.5psi?

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 3rd, 2010, 5:39 pm

i dont remember haha, either way the 193 isnt the most accurate, as i said it was me using the dyno, me driving the car on the dyno, i did 2 runs, neither made over 100kw, the last one i didnt even go flat but i hit the limiter... i dont know how to use a dyno, ill know my before and after power figures on the 16th guys, the 193 i made was just cos i was doing emissions as part of my tafe course

BLKPHN · Post by **BLKPHN** » July 3rd, 2010, 5:51 pm

bentls wrote:so now it has a 185 motor not 165, but it has stock cam in it, will be interesting to see what it makes...

lol 185 motor not 165 you mean different ecu and a set of engine covers!

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 3rd, 2010, 6:35 pm

oh i figured it would be computer and cam nothing major anyway so yeah pretty much expecting 220 with a better tune on its current boost

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 8th, 2010, 6:21 pm

picked up my roady last night, its in my name as of today, and paid rego...

did a bit of a install over the weekend big thanks to amon(scotty) for doin 99% of the work lol

kenwood head unit, audison monoblock amp, and 2 polk subs in a nice big fat box... amp is mounted to a fake side panel on the drivers side, just gotta make something up to cover where the spare wheel is meant to sit, then refit some more boot carpet in better condition that mine, and it will look alot neater...

Then i fitted stock 15" vn ss wheels to it, and it improved the ride an absolute shit load, no longer twitches down the road pulling on every uneven surface..

and finally over the last few days, ive had problems with the battery light coming on, at first i thought it was the belt slipping or something, but turns out the reg was stuffed so scotty hooked us up again with a new reg and its been sweet since...
so not much to report, till next friday when she gets retuned i guess.... oh ps, 3rd gear in the dry with 3.08 diff = lots of smoke from 1 wheel hahaha

josh_ef · Post by **josh_ef** » July 8th, 2010, 8:44 pm

347 are mint if built correctly

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 16th, 2010, 2:48 pm

Picked her up today from Errol who carried out the tune on it.. all I can say is

Not gonna post about power figures n that shit, or post up engine bay photos but all I can say is its quicker than it was before...

The only problem is I cant tell how much quicker because even if I'm already doing 80 I cant get it to hook up for a roll on

t1MMy · Post by **t1MMy** » July 16th, 2010, 2:58 pm

248kw's

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 18th, 2010, 12:20 pm

238.3 on 7 psi. Washed this shit heap the other day come up amazing for a vn I should probably keep it clean all the time..

josh_ef · Post by **josh_ef** » July 18th, 2010, 12:54 pm

good stuff mate

i like this thing

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » July 18th, 2010, 1:13 pm

Nice work! (have you got a spare T5 handy? haha....)

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 18th, 2010, 4:23 pm

hey rollin you were wrong with my rex tho, i never had to change a gearbox or clutch in it

i rarely give 3rd a hard time, mainly 2nd if anything and ive got a lot of mechanical sympathy, so i expect this to last a while (as long as it survives calder)

private9 · Post by **private9** » July 18th, 2010, 4:34 pm

Sweet result, that'd be heaps of fun in a relatively light VN - especially sounding as good as those things do!

What's next?

nstg8a · Post by **nstg8a** » July 18th, 2010, 4:35 pm

bentls wrote:hey rollin you were wrong with my rex tho, i never had to change a gearbox or clutch in it

i rarely give 3rd a hard time, mainly 2nd if anything and ive got a lot of mechanical sympathy, so i expect this to last a while (as long as it survives calder)

but didnt the rex die a nasty death before you had a chance to kill the box?

generally i dont like vn's, but when its copping a supercharged 8, and near as damn 240kw atw id own it for sure lol. thats probably double what my stock 5.0 has

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 18th, 2010, 4:49 pm

private9 wrote:
What's next?

spool and slicks

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 18th, 2010, 4:50 pm

and yes the rex died in a tree haha.. car needs a spool or good lsd bad, single spinning with this much power is silly business

private9 · Post by **private9** » July 18th, 2010, 7:29 pm

bentls wrote:and yes the rex died in a tree haha.. car needs a spool or good lsd bad, single spinning with this much power is silly business

Nice man, should be a bit of fun. Although a Lokka would be good (which I can do cheap as well as the slicks / shameless self promotion!), the inner wog in me says spool - it just seems right in a VN

Think you'll shoot for more power?

EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » July 18th, 2010, 8:08 pm

good power man i recon go a lokka i hate spools and it seems u do also (already snapped an axle in first post) i just think theyre the worst things to drive with.
but im pretty soft and drive my cars every day first time i got a daily i sold my weekender (au) about 3 weeks later lol.
once u get spool/lokka/lsd this thing will be good as.
cheers josh.

LOW_XR · Post by **LOW_XR** » July 18th, 2010, 9:50 pm

bentls wrote:Not gonna post about power figures n that shit

bentls wrote:238.3 on 7 psi.

lol

bentls · Post by **bentls** » July 18th, 2010, 9:54 pm

Was gonna do what everyone else seems to do and make a mystery out of it hahaha