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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby wolf » June 2nd, 2008, 1:36 pm

yeah for sure just transplant the motor.

even better try and get a 4ltr
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 2nd, 2008, 9:01 pm

they should have a 4L for the same price, now i just gotta convince my parents to let me convert it,
and also what is required for the XR headlights to fit in, does it require the grill to be changed, or the wiring to be modded???
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby XG95 » June 2nd, 2008, 10:10 pm

Mate, Slap on some extractors and a decent exhaust, and it'll drive a heck of alot better and not cost you too much. :)
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby BLCKED » June 2nd, 2008, 11:04 pm

Bazza J wrote:it is a s pack and it is the original motor because the engine number is the same as the chasis number, i dont really mind that is is centrepoint rather than multipoint, it is all the same 2 me, it still goes and it'll do till im off my p's and can drop a v8 in it



drive it through the guys house who you purchased it off on fire full of dynamite?

putting an 8 in an ea is hard work, need to get it engineered aswell, ea's didnt come out with v8's better off getting a eb for the conversion or even easier again buy a eb-ed with an 8 in it already
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 3rd, 2008, 7:17 am

i got it off one of my dad's mates that can get us any car in this car yard, for the trade in value,
what i have got planned for this car atm is getting it painted, putting some extractors and a new exaust on and eventally converting to MPI, and maybe turboing it when i get off my P's (stupid laws in NSW wont let me drive any high performance cars, did onm l plates but not p plates)
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 7th, 2008, 4:47 pm

anyone know how to make a decent line locker yourself??, or install a valve to stop pressure getting to the back brakes??
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby BLCKED » June 8th, 2008, 2:55 pm

cut the back break lines and bend them and clamp them up :0

cheapest and easiest way and most dangerous

they sell on ebay for around 80 bucks?

b and m line locker kit, pretty easy to install
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 8th, 2008, 4:54 pm

how would i go about installing them, do they just bolt in??
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby BLCKED » June 8th, 2008, 6:19 pm

not exactly but kind of

you have to disconnect your brake line and sort of plug it in, there pre made kits and have instructions but i have never done one on an eb so might need some mods, i got one on an xe and it needed to be modified but nothing major.

worked great.
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 8th, 2008, 7:12 pm

i was thinking next time im at work i might just get 2 female flange and a male tap to put in just after the resinator, and flicking it closed when i want to do a burnout and on when normal driving

i might just get a line locker instead though, depends on wich is cheaper and easier to install
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby BLCKED » June 8th, 2008, 7:17 pm

fair enough

sounds good,

do you want a eb 3.45 lsd for your car?
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 8th, 2008, 7:45 pm

maybe, depends on how much it is is how long it takes to put in, (i need the car everyday for skool and work)
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby BLCKED » June 8th, 2008, 8:11 pm

few hours to put in

$250

i can assist with putting it in aswell for a bit extra.
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 8th, 2008, 8:58 pm

maybe after the conversion and after i save a bit of cash up,
i read on Ford forums that u just bolt the new intake manifold in and wire 1 new wire in and you are done (for a manual) is that right, and if so would it take more than 4 hours to do??
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby BLCKED » June 8th, 2008, 9:03 pm

Bazza J wrote:maybe after the conversion and after i save a bit of cash up,
i read on Ford forums that u just bolt the new intake manifold in and wire 1 new wire in and you are done (for a manual) is that right, and if so would it take more than 4 hours to do??



???

what are you talking about?

im talking about a diff not a manifold

the big thing under the rear end of your car your wheels are bolted to.

it wont take much more then a few hrs to bolt a eb diff into an eb..
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 8th, 2008, 9:19 pm

the MPI conversion, i read on ford forums that u just bolt the new manifold on and conect one wire up
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby BLCKED » June 8th, 2008, 9:25 pm

oh i get you, you will get my diff after the inlet manifold conversion

yeah its pretty easy. well some of the bolts are hard to get to.

im a v8 boy any way never done one my self. waste of time to me haha v8's are the way to go.

well let me know about the diff, if it sells i will let you know mate.
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 9th, 2008, 6:15 pm

does anyone kno if it is possible to move the handbrake from the dash spot on the ea to the el spot??
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 10th, 2008, 7:17 pm

my parents have spoken to the machanic that did my gas conversion, and asked him what are the advantages of changing to MPI
he said because it is on LPG there arn't any,
is this true or are there other advantages besides power, and easier mods??
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Commando » June 10th, 2008, 7:23 pm

The only advantage I can possibly see with an MPFI manifold when it's running on gas is a moderate improvement in the manifold design compared to the CPFI version? But with the mixer ring in place, that will probably still be a restriction, negating any potential benefits from switching manifolds.
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 10th, 2008, 8:04 pm

what about when i 1st start it of a cold morning, i hav 2 rev it for about 5 minutes so it wont stall or idle low, i've heard with MPI that it idles perfect all the time and starts easier than the CPFI and doesn't stall on a cold morning
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Commando » June 10th, 2008, 8:29 pm

erm... dunno about that one to be honest.
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby galapogos01 » June 10th, 2008, 9:24 pm

Commando wrote:The only advantage I can possibly see with an MPFI manifold when it's running on gas is a moderate improvement in the manifold design compared to the CPFI version? But with the mixer ring in place, that will probably still be a restriction, negating any potential benefits from switching manifolds.


from first hand experience, it will make a pretty big difference. CFI manifolds and intakes are horrific.

Bazza J wrote:what about when i 1st start it of a cold morning, i hav 2 rev it for about 5 minutes so it wont stall or idle low, i've heard with MPI that it idles perfect all the time and starts easier than the CPFI and doesn't stall on a cold morning


sounds like your ISC-DCM (the idle control stepper) is busted. get one from a wrecker. it sits near the throttle linkage, one plug two bolts, you'll work it out.
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Commando » June 10th, 2008, 9:51 pm

My wording was probably a little off. By "moderate" improvement, I meant like how an Explorer manifold on a V8 is a "moderate" improvement to a HO :P

It won't turn the car into a firebreathing monster but it's a step in the right direction!

I guess the mixer ring setup on MPFI falcons is pretty good? My EF's mixer ring is a bit smaller than the BBM intake and I noticed when the car got converted to gas that the power was down (petrol before conversion vs petrol with ring in place)

Although I'm straying from the topic :P
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby Bazza J » June 11th, 2008, 6:02 pm

i'll have a talk to my machanic and ask him what parts i will need different for the LPG and ask for a price,
witch manifold is better an EA/B/D or an EF/L one??
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Re: my 3.9L MPI??

Postby huggiebear » July 6th, 2008, 5:59 pm

if your going to convert it to a V8 later on just go the EA-ED one i just finished putting an EL XR6 Tickford motor in my NC, had to wire in a smartlock bypass so the car would run and also add new ECU pins and run wires to make the BBM (EF/EL) manifold to switch at 3800 rpm to give more power. its a fair bit of work in a non smartlock car. the gains are worth it in the end however your going a V8 so any mod you do to this motor now is pointless
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