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Re: The wagon thread.

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I'm not sure it really warrents its own sub forum?

Then i need to create a sedan sub forum? :P

the content of a wagon sub forum would generally fall into other categories, it just might make things more segmented and harder to find stuff.
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But this whole forum is a sedan forum hehe .
It was just a idea that was all
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BenJ wrote:If you are using blocks you should use the standard shocks.

If you have the leaves reset, then you need short shocks.

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i have both, king superlow leaves and 1.5" lowering blocks, its just off bump stops and the rear shocks are pretty much on full compression. looking at going larger blocks and shorter shocks, i'll need to cut the bump stops too.
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John I think we specifically need an EF GLi wagon auto 4.0 subforum so Scott & I can be contented.
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Commando wrote:John I think we specifically need an EF GLi wagon auto 4.0 subforum so Scott & I can be contented.
I think we should call it the PEDO BEAR car sub forum
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WagonWorld typo: Vote for Pedro
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Leaf spring users group?
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LSUG is taken, I swear that was an ff.com or ff.com.au thing from years back (mostly Clevo owners)
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Re: The E-Series wagon thread.

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BenJ wrote:
Wagone wrote:
BenJ wrote:If you are using blocks you should use the standard shocks.

If you have the leaves reset, then you need short shocks.

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Ive heard of this as well and are looking at shorter ones now but what is the difference between the two is the shorter stiffer or something?
When you use blocks you raise the diff housing up higher, closer to the car, than the leaf springs and shock mounting platform. This means the shock length is the same as std. If you have the leaves reset lower, the shock platform is also closer to the car, meaning the distance between the shock mounts on the body and the diff is shorter, hence the need for shorter stroke shocks, which would prevent the shock from bottoming out.

As I use blocks in my EB, I will be getting STD lenght heavy duty shocks.

As yours is an AU, and as I understand it you can't use blocks, and therefore should have had the leaves reset, you should look at getting some heavy duty Short Stroke shocks.

Hope that makes sense.

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Yeah mate cheers ill be putting some in real soon it must be bottoming out the shock on big bumps or hitting the diff bump stop or a combination of both so its in desperate need of some new ones.
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Haha Phil, Im on StreetWagons too, all I got was its nice.. for a Ford and that was it. Got moved to Member "Other Rides" because its not a sick stock Commo wagon!
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thats EXACLY what i got.

http://www.forum.streetwagons.com/viewt ... =22&t=6368" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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hahah.. the name street wagons is a bit misleading really..
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I had a verrrrry brief look at their forum. I understand where they're coming from, being a commodore-based wagon club, however by lumping sedans, motorbikes, utes, and non-commodore wagons into the "other rides" section is a bit ordinary, if I had built that forum setup and wanted to keep the commodore wagon bias, I'd split that into "other rides" and "other wagons", with the wagons (notably several Liberty wagons, mad!) taking precedence over Commodore sedans. <-- EDIT: what a ****ing long sentence!

It's kind of like here, we have far more n/a E-Series here than forced B-Series, on BoostedFalcon.net

Phil - I saw nothing wrong with the posts in your thread, not sure what the problem is?
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EFFalcon wrote:hahah.. the name street wagons is a bit misleading really..
+1 on that
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My god they are such dicks in there.
I think that they are pissed because ford guys are in there.
I like the guy at the end of phillis saying the adventura isnt a commodore so it should be in readers other rides lol
I think that we should go in there on mass force and put threads in there lol
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Yeah nah.
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meh, their club, let them handle it the way they want to.

Its amusing though.. the general structure of Commodore related clubs seems so different to that of Ford related Clubs,

Ford clubs are generally - X-Series / E-Series / AU / BA etc
Commodore clubs are more so based on body styling, Street Wagons/Street Class Limos (Stato's etc)

saying that, we're different again, we're a little more generic advertising a bit more as a general ford club.
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I saw a statesman yesterday with a STATO.COM.AU sticker on it.

Talk about being fussy as to what you want to talk about.
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theres a few decent comments from a couple of guys, but yeah there are definately some muppets in there.
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I think Commando wants to start a EF Falcon GLi Wagon 4L Forum though.. i seen it earlier :P
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EFFalcon wrote: saying that, we're different again, we're a little more generic advertising a bit more as a general ford club.
and more accepting to other vehicles besides fords.
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EFFalcon wrote:I think Commando wants to start a EF Falcon GLi Wagon 4L Forum though.. i seen it earlier :P
That would leave PLENTY of room for various topics!

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EFFalcon wrote:I think Commando wants to start a EF Falcon GLi Wagon 4L Forum though.. i seen it earlier :P
its gotta be auto specific tho!
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i THINK lalin is trying to get a few wagons out for this saturday night , I think he has put something up in the events section
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yes...more wagons the better. ill bring mine out even though it looks like crap at the moment
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Unfortunately, I am just a little bit to far away to pop down for a cruise.

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I lowered my ef the other day as well as putting a sub woofer in it, here are a few pictures, write a reply and say wat u want about it
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Ride height looks good mate. Very clean and presentable. I like it.

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very nice. could easily go 2 inches lower though :mrgreen:

going on that commodore forum, eh...i dunno, i felt like a black democratic homo eating tofu and carrot juice in alabama.
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Took some pics of mine today while it was still semi clean and a nice day, just need to get the back a bit lower, just need to cut the bumpstops first.
Pete i want pics of our wagons side by side one day!!

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Wow, very nice!

I'm a big fan of the white EA-D wagons when they are neat as like that.

Looks great man, keep up the good work :drinks2:
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hey wagon owners... lol


im interested in buying a wagon for my next car.

but

what diffs do they have and what diffs fit in and how many spline are they???
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the diffs are the same as all other e-series only with a different housing to take the leaf springs

25 spline in EA and EB1 EB2 ED EF EL are 28 from memory

If you want to go overboard you can drop a 9" diff in them easy enough by using an XD 9" just need to drop disc brakes on it

if you get a ghia wagon they usually have LSD....not always but usually

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Schmee wrote:
if you get a ghia wagon they usually have LSD....not always but usually
orrrrr get an xr6 wagon- all came out with an LSD

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My EB1 Fairmont Ghia Wagon has a factory 3.23 LSD. Seems to still work too.

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hahah more woried about my spool and 3.9's fitting :)
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if your 3.9's and spool are in you ED they should slot straight into the same series in a wagon....
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wicked

next qustion...

lowering the back...


how and what would you use to get it as low as ssl? or lower :D and make it stiff? shocks leaves? and blocks or???
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There are two ways to lower the wagon.

As it uses Leaf Springs, instead of coil springs, you can use lowering blocks, which are inserted between the leaf spring and the diff, raising the diff closer to the car, and lowering the car. This method is the cheaper option, and does not change the stiffness of the existing springs.

Or you can take the existing springs to a suspension joint, and get them 'reset'. This alters the ride height, and can stiffen the springs at the same time.

On my wagon, I am currently using 2 1/4 inch blocks, and some load helpers, which can stiffen the rear by tightening up the nuts.

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Combined with S/Low Kings in the front, this is what the stance looks like.

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thanks benj great post.

so can you buy lowerd leaf springs or do you have to get them reset? load helper things look like a good idear. did the sway bar make much of a diffrence? is there a need for shortend shocks? have you had to cut your bump stops?

id probly want the same stance mabey a tiny bit lower as PSI250 but as stiff as i can get it...
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