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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 6th, 2009, 12:54 pm

t1MMy wrote:
OED666 wrote:i wonder what power it makes n/a?

(ps, i hope someone here knows what i point i am trying to make with this post)


10% rule..??

what is the 10% rule :write:... or should i not ask
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby needfordspeed » April 6th, 2009, 12:57 pm

vulpine wrote:
t1MMy wrote:
OED666 wrote:i wonder what power it makes n/a?

(ps, i hope someone here knows what i point i am trying to make with this post)


10% rule..??

what is the 10% rule :write:


Same as the 20% rule but just half your final answer. Let us know what you come up with :good:
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 6th, 2009, 1:30 pm

if you drain the power steering fluid, and remove the pump, it isnt too bad to drive.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Fritzz » April 6th, 2009, 5:16 pm

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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby pHaT`eL » April 6th, 2009, 5:20 pm

What he said ^^^

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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby wicksy » April 6th, 2009, 6:22 pm

i want want vulpine is on
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Rollin » April 6th, 2009, 6:53 pm

Lol yeah....I think he slightly underestimates what the humble 4.0 is capable of....
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby 67rce » April 6th, 2009, 7:07 pm

vulpine wrote:if you drain the power steering fluid, and remove the pump, it isnt too bad to drive.
it when its full of fluid and the pump is still there without the belt that its a ... to turn.

a bullet proof stage 2 destroked 4ltr bored 30 thou and 30psi GT51R with cryo & alcohol/water injection and a good high advance curve ignition system, electric water pump, no power steering, electric fans, surge tank and 440 fuel pump wouldnt be too far off 700fwkw.....as long as you ported the head to the max. and then some.


I refer you to read the thread about EZY10, 530rwkw EL XR6T...... On LPG
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 6th, 2009, 8:01 pm

so why hasnt anyone done it if the e series engine can do more.
i know the xr6t or any double cam quad valve vct 4ltr engine can do it, im talking about the 4ltr e series sohc 2 valve.
the xr6t has done 1000fwhp already and run for hours at that level.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby EFFalcon » April 6th, 2009, 8:03 pm

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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby ed40 » April 6th, 2009, 8:07 pm

Because people with lots of cash wouldnt bother with an e-series thats why!
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 6th, 2009, 8:59 pm

but there is viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9040 for example,
had $150000 spent in research and development and ran 32psi.....did hold a world record, and only made 452rwkw.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Dansedgli » April 6th, 2009, 9:02 pm

He only has a t04z and wanted good response so the turbo is a bit small. Chuck a GT42 and things would change.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby needfordspeed » April 6th, 2009, 9:06 pm

It was made for the track, i'm sure if $150,000 was spent with only drag racing in mind it'd be running low 8's.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Steady » April 6th, 2009, 9:21 pm

What MPH did it run for the 9.28?
Quickly, before theres more chassis dyno/theoretical output/maths to the nth power bullshit.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Fritzz » April 6th, 2009, 10:40 pm

not sure to be honest
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby EFFalcon » April 7th, 2009, 7:48 am

vulpine wrote:but there is viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9040 for example,
had $150000 spent in research and development and ran 32psi.....did hold a world record, and only made 452rwkw.


litte more research needs to be done here.
that car was built to be a circuit car, if you see the car then you start to appreciate all the little things that have been done to make it a circuit car.

it doesn't run 32psi to make 450rwkw.
it ran 32psi to do the record, but wasnt making 450rwkw.
it now makes 450rwkw using less boost, its also destroked.
you build a car with a purpose in mind... most people tend to go drag/circuit, in which case stupid amounts of rwkw can be traded off for better midrange responce.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Gunns » April 7th, 2009, 8:43 am

Vulpine stop trying to know everything and just shut the fu(k up for once.

You are what we call 5 watt ........................................................... not so bright!
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 7th, 2009, 12:26 pm

Gunns wrote:Vulpine stop trying to know everything and just shut the fu(k up for once.

You are what we call 5 watt ........................................................... not so bright!

well us specialist consultant engineers with three trades are known to be slow i guess. good point gunns, what do you do.
the boost was turned up to max - 28psi and the 19 year old Falcon took up the gauntlet, squeezing out 451.9 kilowatts (606hp) at the wheels!
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby t1MMy » April 7th, 2009, 12:38 pm

vulpine wrote:
Gunns wrote:Vulpine stop trying to know everything and just shut the fu(k up for once.

You are what we call 5 watt ........................................................... not so bright!

well us specialist consultant engineers with three trades are known to be slow i guess. good point gunns, what do you do.


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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby TUFED6 » April 7th, 2009, 12:41 pm

No-one is interested in calculations, you can calculate until the cows come home and prove nothing. Thats what people are trying to say, and why they are getting irritated when you continue to post your meaningless calculations.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 7th, 2009, 12:50 pm

that rather limits the knowledge base :?
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby t1MMy » April 7th, 2009, 12:53 pm

vulpine wrote:that rather limits the knowledge base :?


Got to be able to understand it to know it
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby 67rce » April 7th, 2009, 1:20 pm

vulpine wrote:
Gunns wrote:Vulpine stop trying to know everything and just shut the fu(k up for once.

You are what we call 5 watt ........................................................... not so bright!

the boost was turned up to max - 28psi and the 19 year old Falcon took up the gauntlet, squeezing out 451.9 kilowatts (606hp) at the wheels!
quote from avoturboworld


Now read Fritzz's build thread..... 461rwkw on 18psi. I'm with Gunn's, Shut the Fvck up
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby EFFalcon » April 7th, 2009, 1:43 pm

Calculations are more reliable then a dyno................. i think thats what got us into this mess.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Dansedgli » April 7th, 2009, 2:18 pm

Calculations and non engine dynos are the same when it comes to calculating horsepower.

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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Nikk O'lass » April 7th, 2009, 4:58 pm

Real world peformance matters more then calculations. We know this car can move, its not a dyno queen...

Mind you 'sif 450kw at the wheels is anything to sneeze at, thats what, 600 at the fly?
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby nommic » April 7th, 2009, 5:41 pm

vulpine wrote:well us specialist consultant engineers with three trades are known to be slow i guess.

If you dribble this much shit in your actual job, I'm not surprised you have a lot of time to make long-winded idiotic posts during business hours.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Gunns » April 7th, 2009, 6:34 pm

vulpine wrote:well us specialist consultant engineers with three trades are known to be slow i guess. good point gunns, what do you do.

Well I an a IT storage consultant, a part time Photographer, Engine builder on the weekends, have 2 degrees one in Ecommerce and the other Mechanical engineering with a fluid mechanics major. And I still find time to fu(k your mum.

By the way being able to wrist yourself with both hands does not count as 2 trades.
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Postby old_mate » April 7th, 2009, 6:41 pm

Gunns wrote:
By the way being able to wrist yourself with both hands does not count as 2 trades.



AWWWWWWWWWWW. Why the **** not?
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Postby OED666 » April 7th, 2009, 9:09 pm

WOW... looks my comment earlier in this thread has certainly opened a can of worms.. haha.. gotta laugh...

but anyways, **** that falcon is quick, no matter how many billion hp it has if it was N/A... :P
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 8th, 2009, 9:32 am

Gunns wrote:
vulpine wrote:well us specialist consultant engineers with three trades are known to be slow i guess. good point gunns, what do you do.

Well I an a IT storage consultant, a part time Photographer, Engine builder on the weekends, have 2 degrees one in Ecommerce and the other Mechanical engineering with a fluid mechanics major. And I still find time to fu(k your mum.


:o my mother is 79 years old...doing her might actually count as community service.
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Postby Gozza » April 8th, 2009, 10:04 am

vulpine wrote:
:o my mother is 79 years old...doing her might actually count as community service.


hehehehe. nice
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Postby Gunns » April 8th, 2009, 2:50 pm

It is ok you can just call me dad !
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Postby BROCKYB8 » April 8th, 2009, 2:55 pm

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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 8th, 2009, 3:12 pm

Gunns wrote:It is ok you can just call me dad !

ok but just save the "WHOS YA DADDY!" for mum in the bedroom.
that cartoon pic still cracks me up.
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby Fritzz » April 19th, 2009, 8:57 pm

seen this thing today, it was running consistent 9.3's at around 146-147mph

the setup has changed a bit to, seems to be running what looks to be a turbonetics gtk1000
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby allmtr » April 20th, 2009, 1:48 am

This thing is insane!

Making SO much more power than any other E series motor
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Re: Turbo EL XR6 goes 9.92 @ Kwinana Motorplex

Postby vulpine » April 20th, 2009, 9:47 am

so who can swipe the blue print for this car so we can all build one. :thumbsup:
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