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Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 16th, 2009, 6:15 am
by BI6TIM
bushman wrote:
BI6TIM wrote: My 200 will never have anything other than SR20 in it. If it breaks again while drifting it will not drift again, simple.


Maybe you just shouldn't drift?

Probably shouldn't, it's never been regarded as cheap or vehicle friendly but it's just sooooo much fun!

Also I can have the 32mm front sway bar made for falcon still, even though we all thought it was extinct when Whiteline stopped 'making' it.
I think I'm going to do some testing with Malakai's EA, I have a feeling I might be able to get up to about 7deg positive castor. Heaps of castor is not for everybody as it makes the steering heavier but for those who can appreciate the benefits, positive castor is King.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 16th, 2009, 6:30 pm
by falcon4life
the hardest thing i find is throttle steering my car is on the verge of having enough power to do it but only just and my mistake is too much or to little throttle and over correcting lol

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 17th, 2009, 8:01 am
by bushman
Over correcting equals munji = fun. Throttle control comes with practice than over correcting will fall into place with it when you get enough practice in and become good enough, and then people will go that was sic. And then bipolar mate with the rx7 will call you the crazy munji man as well lol.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 17th, 2009, 9:01 am
by falcon4life
lol yer my car has no problem sideways but contolling it is different story, but 1 question whats hard to drift, heavy as in the arse falcon or featherweight arse ricer?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 17th, 2009, 9:13 am
by lawler
falcon4life wrote:lol yer my car has no problem sideways but contolling it is different story, but 1 question whats hard to drift, heavy as in the arse falcon or featherweight arse ricer?


High speed sweepers a falcon with a bit of power will seem more stable and a light wight car will be better in twisty stuff due to being able to change direction quicker

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 17th, 2009, 4:39 pm
by BBQBurner
falcon4life wrote: 1g eb


and thats why we love them :D

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 17th, 2009, 5:19 pm
by lawler
falcon4life wrote:ok cause someone i know reckons falcons cant drift at all and that theyre a heap of shit and that i should get an import and burn my 1g eb


Tell them they are wrong and gay. I profer the way my aus spec 31 handles comparied to my mates s13 due to the facted the s13 making a bit of power is just to twitchy for my liking were as the 31 like tha falcon has abit longer wheel base removes the twitchyness and the beam axle making out of courner speed easy to get.

Having said that the more wight you can get out of them the better

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 17th, 2009, 5:45 pm
by 67rce
What's done to the 13?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 17th, 2009, 10:16 pm
by lawler
67rce wrote:What's done to the 13?


Which one? the one Im talking about or the one falcon4life is talking about?

Gtr sway bars, springs with good shocks, a few nolithain bushes, pinaple bushs, hicas cancler rod 298.9rwkw rb25

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 18th, 2009, 5:37 pm
by SNR
BI6TIM wrote:
bushman wrote:
BI6TIM wrote: My 200 will never have anything other than SR20 in it. If it breaks again while drifting it will not drift again, simple.


Maybe you just shouldn't drift?

Probably shouldn't, it's never been regarded as cheap or vehicle friendly but it's just sooooo much fun!

Also I can have the 32mm front sway bar made for falcon still, even though we all thought it was extinct when Whiteline stopped 'making' it.
I think I'm going to do some testing with Malakai's EA, I have a feeling I might be able to get up to about 7deg positive castor. Heaps of castor is not for everybody as it makes the steering heavier but for those who can appreciate the benefits, positive castor is King.


Tim can you get the rear bars?

I've got the 32mm front already but stocko at the rear and the car feels bizzarre, is really stable on asphalt at the front but get it onto wet/slippery or gravel roads and it slides almost too easy - I honestly think with the bigger front bar (and lack of big rear bar) I can go FASTER sideways, but it's a lot HARDER to drive sideways (because you have to catch it that much faster, it feels like it wants to spin really fast etc.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 18th, 2009, 5:44 pm
by bigdell
so a lack of rear sway bar is why my ute loves to go sideways on dirt. xh ftl

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 18th, 2009, 7:55 pm
by BI6TIM
SNR, a 28mm rear sway bar would be sweet on your car if you've got the 32mm front already. I can get them, can't remember the price that I can do them for you guys as they are not a stocked item (custom made).
Hopefully I can find out some time next week.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 19th, 2009, 11:23 am
by SNR
Yeah just shoot me a PM when you get the price

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2009, 12:26 pm
by BLC
I've got the 28mm rear whiteline bar, it has changed the handling quite a lot. The rear has heaps of initial grip, but when it lets go it's fuckin quick.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 23rd, 2009, 9:03 pm
by SNR
What's it like on gravel?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 24th, 2009, 7:07 pm
by CaRtZ
see my sig... i plan to get this on the tack early '10 while n/a (have to move house thenn fix timing case n sump leaks n shagged diff[cheers frost]). if u really wanna hang ur arse out get out there n give it a go! figure out what u have trouble with and address issues one at a time. mine goes fairly good as it is, my only concern for the track is gear ratio while n/a thinkin 3.45:1 or 3.7:1 might be the go how ever the taller the ratio = more wheel speed = more smoke = points. once boost is fitted i think i'll be ok.

how does it go in that movie??? "learn by doing it" haha.... seriously get on the track, its the only way

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 25th, 2009, 11:07 am
by bentls
also dunno if its been posted in here yet or not buck by adding rear spacers to your wheels to make the track as wide as possible helps to keep the car more stable..

well thats what james mackie did on his drift slut an thats what he said when i asked why he was using spacers on e series offset wheels lol

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 25th, 2009, 11:57 am
by Rollin
Au diff FTW.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 25th, 2009, 1:58 pm
by lawler
Rollin wrote:Au diff FTW.


More so your diff FTW

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 29th, 2009, 9:01 am
by BLC
SNR wrote:What's it like on gravel?


Loose :shock:

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 29th, 2009, 8:58 pm
by Rollin
Days of Thunder wrote:Loose is Fast!

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 29th, 2009, 9:28 pm
by 67rce
lawler wrote:
Rollin wrote:Au diff FTW.


More so your diff FTW


Rollin's diff + Driftek's FTMFW

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 29th, 2009, 10:30 pm
by CaRtZ
actually.... has anyone played with steering lock?
see alot of longer steering arms/tie rod ends for nissans, how bout us? washers or spacers or something? longer tie rods? obviously while avoiding rediculous amounts of toe in :scratch:

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 29th, 2009, 10:46 pm
by Rollin
Fail. Can't do much with E-series. Maybe fit rack end spacers but I haven't bought a set to see if it's possible.

I reckon you could do some cool stuff with AU suspension but of course you have to fit it first :/

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 6:21 am
by bentls
Rollin wrote:Fail. Can't do much with E-series. Maybe fit rack end spacers but I haven't bought a set to see if it's possible.

I reckon you could do some cool stuff with AU suspension but of course you have to fit it first :/

wait till anthony is done haha :D

i reckon you should do that dan, au front end, ba motor, cos you have problems with sohc motors popping.. :D

then you can get coilovers :D :D :D

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 8:16 am
by 67rce
Dan pops SOHC motors due to running 15psi through stock motors and them raping the shit out of them.

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 12:57 pm
by Rollin
Don't want a BA motor in the ED. SOHC FTMFW!

One day I might put one in the NC, but I seriously doubt it. Need a better job :/

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 1:13 pm
by lawler
I recon it would be interesting to find out if extra lock spacers would be possible for the e series racks. but it would take a heap of mucking around to see if anything would hit, internal gear mesh in rack, and that sort of stuff

But would be cool if some one made something like the kit in getting for the 31 for falcons

Tein stronger tie rods, tein extra lock spacers and tein tie rod ends with different angle on then to allow for better angle for lowered cars

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: December 30th, 2009, 3:58 pm
by lawler
CaRtZ wrote:actually.... has anyone played with steering lock?
see alot of longer steering arms/tie rod ends for nissans, how bout us? washers or spacers or something? longer tie rods? obviously while avoiding rediculous amounts of toe in :scratch:


The tie rods aren't longer there's a machined spacer that dose on where the rod end screws onto the rack itself that fits inside the opening in the rack that allows the rack to travel further which while makes the tie rod push out more giving toe in a wheel aliment will fix it

I hope that make sense if not tell me which bit doesn't and Ill try and explain it better

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: January 15th, 2010, 12:32 pm
by lawler
Has anyone thought of having a go at doing rose jointed adjustable caster arms a go?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: January 15th, 2010, 1:09 pm
by Gozza
67rce wrote:
Rollin + his balls + my mouth = FTMFW. FTW FTW FTW FTW FTW FTMFW. Its the only abbreviation in my dictionary

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: January 15th, 2010, 1:10 pm
by Gozza
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Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: January 15th, 2010, 2:00 pm
by lawler
Ah what?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: January 20th, 2010, 4:32 pm
by hXc_Cam
farkin lol

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: February 22nd, 2010, 10:04 pm
by Another_ef
falcon4life wrote:1 question whats hard to drift, heavy as in the arse falcon or featherweight arse ricer?
i'm no expert and new to the falcon driving experience but i used to drive and attempt to drift a ke71 corolla with a 5k and it went really well with a locked diff and cut king lows in it ask bushman i used to have no drama throwing it around due to it's light weight and ease of control plus a working hand brake, i'm yet to try slide a falcon so i cant really judge but i have seen bushman throw his el around with great ease i have even been in the car with him many a time while sideways and he is a very good driver when driving sideways but as it has been said light and small is good for tight corners and bigger heavier is better for more all round as i have been shown but it is really pick your poision and personall preference in my books anyway. Cheers Justin

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: February 23rd, 2010, 10:53 am
by lawler
Another_ef you are on the right track there. my expiration is in an s13 and an r31 while the s13 was better for tight corner and changed direction quicker it felt twitchy on sweepers where as the r31 felt a lot more stable in the sweepers but didn't change direction as quick and you had to force it to more on tight corners

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: February 23rd, 2010, 2:44 pm
by ed40
well falcons feel CRAP everywhere

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: February 23rd, 2010, 2:56 pm
by falcon4life
ed40 wrote:well falcons feel CRAP everywhere


now thats below the belt...

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: February 23rd, 2010, 3:26 pm
by krisisdog
lawler wrote:Another_ef you are on the right track there. my expiration is in an s13 and an r31 while the s13 was better for tight corner and changed direction quicker it felt twitchy on sweepers where as the r31 felt a lot more stable in the sweepers but didn't change direction as quick and you had to force it to more on tight corners


Expiration, you expired in a s13? experience maybe?

Re: Setup your car for drifting....

PostPosted: February 23rd, 2010, 3:45 pm
by ed40
Well look how good they drift
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89l2C2xf0Eo



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