Discussion on running 10s - fordmods SA division

[EF ECTIV]

big turbo, good auto, built bottom end to handle it, stock suspension (or 90/10s), semis... should get you close...

[Steady]

lets face it. BA fords are not meant to run 10's without always breaking down. Stop chasing the dream unless you have deep pockets.

Sure u can build a motor. But then u have to build an auto that lasts. Then u have to build the diff cause that will break. Then the suspension set up... and so forth. Just be happy with 240rwkw -270rwkw and u wont be breaking everything, yet u can have heaps of fun!

Be happy with high 12's - low 13's and plenty of fun

fixed.

first and last time im on the turbo 4L E-Series side btw.

[misk]

all good man lol
i agree with steady though, even if there are a few cars around with say the turbo gear to support power to run a 10 (or close) there arent many that have the rest of the combo to match.
im keen to see how gilly goes with his setup as he is makin a solid effort getting the car setup.
i think axeman would get some good times also if he setup the car for drags, not sure the T5 would like it though lol

[Gozza]

hi 12?s ****, a 400rwhp ED with a btr and 3:45 should be able to do an 11

[misk]

should yes lol but alot dont

[needfordspeed]

Eat a dick wanker.

The other problems is, no one bloody races them!

But anyways, i'll show ya's within two months how hard it is when I don't do it, and depending on how far off I am, will explain what I think is needed.

how many cars on here with the power to potentially run a 10 are running, honestly.
then how many are floating around out there in the wilderness of "not on this forum".
internet ain't be all and end all. its like years back when 13sec N/A was 'the shit'. there was a handful of cars doing it OFF the forum, but if you read shit on the internet you'd think it was this barely reachable pipe dream.
thats my fukking point kunt. i don't think they are this shitty platform to run a 10, and i don't reckon they need 400rwkw to get there.
just a 12:1 reg and a CVE tuned J3.

i'm moving to adelaide, fukk you kunts, anyone got a gatorade bottle and some garden hose.

Relax max I was joking about the, "eat a dick wanker" part

That's it, the people getting the times probably give no fark for forums. If I listened to people on here i'd be happy with a 13....**** that lol. I wanna aim higher, if all these other makes/models can do it, then so can we.

just a 12:1 reg and a CVE tuned J3.

LOL.

[needfordspeed]

And Icer, your 4spd won't hold up with that power for too long no matter what you think! Just watch.

[holmsy]

i considered spending some money and getting my xr8 into 10's then realised the amount of power i would need to get the anchor that quick and realised i would split the block before that happened so **** that

[Sunboost]

Pre BA fords are not meant to run 10's without always breaking down. Stop chasing the dream unless you have deep pockets.

[needfordspeed]

Look at TT ED XR8 thread....9.8 on stock block

[misk]

lol haters

[needfordspeed]

I'd make that pre BF, as BA's are fkn shit.

[holmsy]

im with sunnys earlier comment tho.
as long as it will light the rear wheels in 3rd im happy

and im already happy cause we have already seen my car easily light up 3rd and even 4th (stand still)

[Mr. CVE]

Dunno how my name got dragged in to this !
Run consistant low 11's first, then worry about 10's
For the record I have NOT done it in an E series.
Dyno figures can make liars out of many cars.
some cars dyno high, go slow, some the opposite.
MYGPA is an example, it made over 500rwkw yet I almost guarantee it would NOT run a 9.
I have an xy ute that puts out under 300rwkw yet on a 235/60/15 tyre it ran 10.97
I see cars everyday that dyno different.
Believe me when I say this, the people who HAVE run 10's and even 9's, while they may make it look simple, there is a lot more R & D involved than what meets the eyes.

[iCER]

MORE THEN MEETS THE EYES!

needforspeed. Ill be happy to get over a year out of my auto they way i drive it. If i dont, then ill cry. Till then, its all good And i agree BA motors are so gay. Granades at best. Not like my f6 bf motor

[Hiboost]

That's it, the people getting the times probably give no fark for forums. If I listened to people on here i'd be happy with a 13....**** that lol. I wanna aim higher, if all these other makes/models can do it, then so can we.

just listen to me an ull run a 10sec pass.

[slyEFt]

Hiboost you need to share the finer details of your setup, diff setup, suspension ect. Saying it's all stock or "Rajab spec" is just not cool.

Come on, be nice....

Need to get the E-series boys further ahead against all them VL's

[slyEFt]

Pre BA fords are not meant to run 10's without always breaking down. Stop chasing the dream unless you have deep pockets.

And VL's were meant to run great numbers out of the factory? Look how many genuine street 10sec ones there are. The aftermarket support is not here for the E-series like it is the BA+ or VL so of course there are going to be more problems.

Gotta love the fact that people are pushing 15yr old engines to 350rwkw, the same power figure that a BA engine would go KABOOM!

Give it some time for people to learn to setup E-series for the strip and there will be heaps of ten second E-series about, I'll bet my left nut that it will end up costing a fuckload less of the price it would be to get a BA to run a ten (including car purchase).

10 second shitters for the win I say.

What would be the power figure required to run a ten in an E-series (well setup driveline and slicks)? 350rwkw? Would you know this Hiboost? What power figure did you run a ten on?

[Hiboost]

Hiboost you need to share the finer details of your setup, diff setup, suspension ect. Saying it's all stock or "Rajab spec" is just not cool.

Come on, be nice....

Need to get the E-series boys further ahead against all them VL's

No I don't need to share I've spent so much cash an R&D/ T&E for my self... now I know how much money/ modifications it requires to run 13,12,11,10, 9 an 8 sec passes

Maybe you do it an run a 10sec pass an share it with everyone? I don't think you would share anything at all.

Sorry if I sound RUDE. I ain't gonna give out info on my Setup stock suspension is stock suspension!

[ned]

Cheque book racers, not the ones that got the cash to run 10's... but the ones that read shit and spend $$$ on something they have no idea about.

We buy shit we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't give a shit about.

Remember that one Gill? Should make it the motto of this forum.

[Dansedgli]

How often do you go racing sinan? What does it cost you to race the car?

[Hiboost]

How often do you go racing sinan? What does it cost you to race the car?

Every chance I get( once every 2months?). Just to race it's just about $750-800. Then add the cost of service an cost of if something breaks...

[EFFalcon]

10's are boring, people need to build more cars with bodykits n shit

[EFFalcon]

how many cars on here with the power to potentially run a 10 are running, honestly.
then how many are floating around out there in the wilderness of "not on this forum".
internet ain't be all and end all. its like years back when 13sec N/A was 'the shit'. there was a handful of cars doing it OFF the forum, but if you read shit on the internet you'd think it was this barely reachable pipe dream.

Thats probably why they're not on forums.

Everyone wants answers for free, whilst its not really competition, not everyone wants to be 100% upfront with what their advantage is.
and given a lot of the cars running good numbers have a decent amount of backing or support from a reputable workshop, anyone who gets these answers will likely go elsewhere to get the work done.

[[Sterling]]

S1k thread. Jarred, max and John owe me beers, there yours coz your a funny Kunt.

[iCER]

Give it some time for people to learn to setup E-series for the strip and there will be heaps of ten second E-series about, I'll bet my left nut that it will end up costing a fuckload less of the price it would be to get a BA to run a ten (including car purchase).

lol its only been 15-20 years

VLs are gay lets not get into that. Im sure we ALL agree.

VLs have 20 years experience of tunign and building. BA-FGs hav a third of that, yet there are heaps of BAs as fast / faster then VLs. Imagine in 10 years time how the BA-BFs will be!

unfortunatlly E series are not meant to run down the track with stock suspension/diff nor stock bottom ends. Else they WILL break. Its just the sad realisation of the truth. Unfortunatlly there are no e series on this site that are daily driven that run 10's that im aware of and none that are not 'been built currently' thats been goign on forever...

id love to see more 10 sec Eseries. soemone get a 3540 / gt42 setup with a forged rods/pistons. crank the boost to 20psi and go from there! Stop buing snort kits (no offence intended) , spend a bit extra and buy the high performance stuff thats already proven with results! And it wont happen if you all go do manual conversions and run t56 boxes! Might be fun, but forget the 10sec slip.

IF YOU HAVE A MANUAL FORGET ABOUT 10 SEC PASSES! (unless your pushing spastic 700rwkw numbers which we all know you wont achieve)

This that pisses me off is drivers who have a manual and claim 'yea bro im gonna get a 10 brah!' .... NO ... YOU WONT. Fair enough on the hwy you can have some fun from droping it down from 60/80km/h then pegging it...yeah, you will have awesome fun, but down the track from a stand still... NO... YOU WONT!

And i already explained the power/weight needed to run the 10's you asked Get close tho those then give the strip a go!

[EFFalcon]

most 10 second cars don't get daily driven ... and if they do, they do it on a 'daily tune'
HiBoost is a prime example.

[needfordspeed]

Icer you talk about stock suspension/diff in a eseries....Hiboost is running STOCK suspesion an got WELL into the 9's with a stock'ish diff. B series are the same shit differet bucket, you want to run a 10 and you will need to upgrage the bottom end and driveline just like a eseries, the only thing they got is the DOHC has more support and they're easier to get power out of.

But your probably right about the daily driver thing, but i'd imagine you'd want a built ZF and a proper built bottom end for a B series anyway for a 10 second daily.

[Sunboost]

That RPIDF6 I was gunna buy ran like 3 or 4 10 second passes and was street driven, daily Stock bottom end, built gearbox and a built true track diff.

That's pretty cool I reckon.

[SnyperEB]

There was a VL Turbo at the VL national's that ran 9.6. He then put his 19's back on it and drove it home!! Now that impressed me!

[misk]

icer you cant compare a VL to BA+
completely different car and engine.
you cant say a BA+ has gone as fast as a VL either, dont see any 7 second or low 8 second BAs around...
im sure they may get close eventually, but dont think they will get into the 7s anytime soon

[SnyperEB]

icer you cant compare a VL to BA+

Just like you can not compare E-Series to B-Series.

[needfordspeed]

icer you cant compare a VL to BA+

Just like you can not compare E-Series to B-Series.

Yeah you can, they're all the same shit different bucket, one has DOHC....the other has live axel....same same wgaf.

[EFFalcon]

next time someone tells us how good their BF is, i'll quote that

[Commando]

I love being inside my grandpa BF... mmm liquid injection

[Gozza]

I love being inside my Gozza ... mmm liquid injection

[EFFalcon]

BF = boyfriend/best friend?

[Commando]

It's an AFF term. Shaun's not comfortable with it.

[Gozza]

im a smooth moderator....smooooooth moderator

[iCER]

gtech have an 8sec BA, and CV performance are about to release their 8sec BA.

all im sayign is theres heaps of 10sec stock bottom end ba-fg's on daily tunes , stock suspension/diff etc who just drive to strip, then back with nothgin changed. Heaps of em!

meh. over it. stick with my figures and you can do eet!