BA XR6T - 480rwkw+ - Currently @ 10.05. 9s knocking in Oct13

by **67rce** » May 21st, 2011, 12:39 am

iCER wrote: If it all went on price tag, then a c63 merc would mean its the fastest thing out there yo!

So much fail in this line.

by **iCER** » May 21st, 2011, 3:52 am

you mean in the whole thread! :banghead:

by **NUT347** » May 21st, 2011, 9:46 am

Well I wouldn't say it's so much fail, you did run a 10.

It took you $10k and 70 more kw but that's not the point!

by **iCER** » July 1st, 2011, 3:40 pm

ok new diff in! woot.

Car just dropped of to Dion for new motor.

Hopefully its ready in 2 weeks or so!

by **iCER** » July 1st, 2011, 3:41 pm

Also, how do i get my car in the elite section? Do i need more power, or faster timeslip? Car can go in, dont have to put me in

edit:

impressive DIY... ok guess not. Ive done things like gauges, plenum, i/cooler setup, battery relo + airfilter + box etc.... not tuning though and just mainly bolt-ons ;/

by **EFFalcon** » July 1st, 2011, 3:46 pm

Its more for cars that are different to the norm, 10 second BA's are kinda common

but honestly, it comes down to how much the build has been documented, and how useful it is to other people who read the thread.

by **Dansedgli** » July 1st, 2011, 4:15 pm : **XR_Lightning Likes this post**

iCER wrote:impressive DIY... ok guess not. Ive done things like gauges, plenum, i/cooler setup, battery relo + airfilter + box etc.... not tuning though and just mainly bolt-ons ;/

Didnt you do all this wrong and have to get a workshop to fix it?

by **XR_Lightning** » July 1st, 2011, 7:10 pm

start acting like a normal kent and you might have a chance to get in there too...

Lol who the **** asks to get in there?

Man your a fuckin spoon icer.

by **Rollin** » July 1st, 2011, 9:25 pm

Elite section??? Eh?

by **iCER** » July 1st, 2011, 9:51 pm

again, i said the car to go in there, not me. And its for build thread. im building for a 9sec pass. Already ran 10.5. only a few handful BA onwards ran this time or faster.

by **InfernalTyrant** » July 1st, 2011, 10:11 pm

Rollin wrote:Elite section??? Eh?

Ya know, where YOUR car is!

iCER, this car isn't really something "different or unique" in all fairness.

by **iCER** » July 2nd, 2011, 12:04 am

fair enough. was asking what needs for it to happen. IE, 2nd btr BA onwards that runs 9s. I didnt say the car should go in now. I asked what needs to happen.

Anyway mine aint a build like them all as mine is actually running and I drive it. So i guess it doesnt classify as a build.

All good.

by **InfernalTyrant** » July 2nd, 2011, 12:19 am

iCER wrote:Anyway mine aint a build like them all as mine is actually running and I drive it. So i guess it doesnt classify as a build.

Is that a stab at them?

by **iCER** » July 2nd, 2011, 11:10 am

no? just saying mine isnt a 'build' thread.

by **Rollin** » July 2nd, 2011, 3:12 pm

InfernalTyrant wrote:
Rollin wrote:Elite section??? Eh?

Ya know, where YOUR car is!

iCER, this car isn't really something "different or unique" in all fairness.

Is this something new that I'm unaware of or something old that I've forgotten about? :scratch:

by **EBOOST** » July 2nd, 2011, 5:10 pm

icer re read what effalcon said and ull realise why it isnt in there.
cheers josh.

by **iCER** » July 8th, 2011, 3:56 pm

Update: newish diff + gaskets/oil/service fitted by Andrew (Preston Auto's). Motor is out and stripped, head has been sent off and already returned (for clean/crack tests etc etc (no porting/cams work) but keeping the crow v/springs+retainers). All put onto the new forged bottom end and oil pump gears is all that is left which will be put in today if they come in. Motor will be back in hopefully early next week and running. Hopefully tuned (to im guessing a run in tune for 500km's) by late next week (am i the only clown who does run in tunes on e85 as i left a full tank in there before i sent it off? geez).

Anyway's, ill keep it updated!

by **EFFalcon** » July 8th, 2011, 4:17 pm

so you just want 9's now?

hopefully this gets you there

by **AaronEF8** » July 8th, 2011, 4:34 pm

Can't you get them to run it in on an engine dyno?
Running-in is usually 1500km, not 500km.

by **Mr. CVE** » July 8th, 2011, 4:39 pm

AaronEF8 wrote:Can't you get them to run it in on an engine dyno?
Running-in is usually 1500km, not 500km.

running in a fly by wire, ecu controlled car on an engine dyno is not as easy as you think.

running in can be 100kms if you do it properly !

We run them in on the chassis dyno like this one probably would be.

by **67rce** » July 8th, 2011, 6:52 pm

Rollin wrote:
InfernalTyrant wrote:
Rollin wrote:Elite section??? Eh?

Ya know, where YOUR car is!

iCER, this car isn't really something "different or unique" in all fairness.

Is this something new that I'm unaware of or something old that I've forgotten about?

It's a new section where all the informative, and downright fucking awesome builds are. Yours fits into both categories :good:

Meh my engines get run in utilising the following process:

a) Assemble engine
b) Fit to vehicle
c) Run long enough to check for leaks
d) Drive directly to dyno
e) Knife-edge tune
f) POWERCRUISE

They love it!

by **67rce** » July 8th, 2011, 6:54 pm

Rollin wrote:Meh my engines get run in utilising the following process:

a) Assemble engine
b) Fit to vehicle
c) Run long enough to check for leaks
d) Drive directly to dyno
e) Knife-edge tune
f) POWERCRUISE

They love it!

Best procedure ever!!!!!

Christ, have you offered Rollin a blowjob yet?

by **misk** » July 8th, 2011, 7:26 pm

i figured said blowjob had already taken place lol

by **justa6** » July 8th, 2011, 7:49 pm

run it in on the dyno. you know it's getting proper load on it and as paul said, way quicker. sounds good though.

by **iCER** » July 9th, 2011, 12:57 am

ye he will can bed the rings on the dyno and get it all done there.

should be sweet. Forgot i hat the ET streets on still when i dropped of the car. Either way he has some stockies to put on there.

EFalcon, i doubt ill get into the 9s ever unless i go full slicks which i wont (well this year) cause driveline everywhere will smash.... but if i got consistent low 10's i would be happy.

... who am i kidding, no i wouldnt be lol. GOING FOR 9S!

by **misk** » July 9th, 2011, 1:06 am

your MPH id edging towards nines.
either hire a driver or fit some slicks? :p lol

why no headwork or hectic cams when the head was off?

by **iCER** » July 9th, 2011, 6:28 pm

was an extra 3k to do the head work and cams etc etc. Cant afford that yet. Can barley afford the forged bottom end! Maybe at the end of the year. No point in chasing 600rwkw+ with stock CVs etc when on the street all i want is 450rwkw as I personally think any more and even with ET streets it wont be usable on the road. Not to mention it should get me in the 9s possibly on (NEW) ET Streets.

the extra 30rwkw should put me in the 140+mph which will be 9's territory.

No need to 'hire" a driver when i can do 1.6x launches and keep it straight

I can do it on my own thank you lol. I actually should get in the 1.5's.

by **Parfrey** » July 9th, 2011, 8:23 pm

But doesn't 137mph = better than 10.5? or is that about right for the mph?

should be mad with more power!

by **AaronEF8** » July 9th, 2011, 9:26 pm

Depends what car you're talking about. A 'tradtitional' drag car (LX SS hatch with a tunnel rammed 350/Transbraked 4500/4-link) would be running mid 9s, but BA's have a comparitively shit rear end for drag racing.

Punching the numbers into a couple drag calcs using 4100lb/1860kg as a guide says it makes 866 Moroso horsepower, which sounds right due to the extra torque. Knowing those details, it says 9.78 @ 137mph.
A quick look at some lists of drag times shows that's pretty right for a drag car.

It also says you'll need another 61bhp/45Kw to get to 140mph.

by **NUT347** » July 9th, 2011, 11:17 pm

My mates valiant does 10.72@127mph. 3600lbs.

That's on street slicks, leaf sprung rear.

This should to better then a 10.5.

by **iCER** » July 9th, 2011, 11:30 pm

yeah car has a 10.3 in it with mid 138s. Dion has a few BAs running 1.5x 60 footers with ET streets so should be good for it. I dont think i need 45kw should be about 25rwkw which should be right with all the boost i will wack into her. From 21 psi even if i go to 24psi ill go 450rwkw. On the e85 juice i should get over 25psi through the twin pumps. See how we go next week.

by **Mr. CVE** » July 9th, 2011, 11:34 pm : **NUT347 Likes this post**

iCER you will be fine.
Do what you want, the way you want.

Don't worry about what you should run, or what everyone else runs.
:wave:

by **misk** » July 9th, 2011, 11:45 pm

are you still running standard turbo? Will be good if you can tweak the setup to get in the high 9s. Should run it with slicks to see what it does anyway...

by **AaronEF8** » July 10th, 2011, 12:09 am

My mates valiant does 10.72@127mph. 3600lbs.

That's on street slicks, leaf sprung rear.

This should to better then a 10.5.

If it weighed another 500lb (the same as icers) it would be running 11.2. Plus the advantage of using leaf springs, and I assume you mean grooved bag tyres?

I'm not iCER loving or anthing lol, I'm just curious as to what other BA-FG/VTII-VE Commodores are running with IRS. Isn't the fastest IRS car in the country a red VX SS running 9.6?

by **Mr_4.0** » July 10th, 2011, 1:41 am

Fastest IRS car I think is blue vx clubby (tryhard plates). I watched it run 160+mph at Calder last week. At least I think he's running IRS.

by **NUT347** » July 10th, 2011, 1:44 am

AaronEF8 wrote:
My mates valiant does 10.72@127mph. 3600lbs.

That's on street slicks, leaf sprung rear.

This should to better then a 10.5.

If it weighed another 500lb (the same as icers) it would be running 11.2. Plus the advantage of using leaf springs, and I assume you mean grooved bag tyres?

I'm not iCER loving or anthing lol, I'm just curious as to what other BA-FG/VTII-VE Commodores are running with IRS. Isn't the fastest IRS car in the country a red VX SS running 9.6?

True.

Nope, he runs MT ET streets.

by **needfordspeed** » July 10th, 2011, 2:04 am

David Sheehy has gone 9.4 with a IRS rear end in a BA turbo, unsure of what mods he's done to it but he's probably spent a fair bit on it.

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