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Postby Craney » July 30th, 2008, 11:37 pm

Hi,

I'm Andrew and my wife Lynny and I have a much loved navy blue '97 V8 EL Fairmont Ghia that we have for about 18 months.

The mods started as soon as we got it with a vapour injected LPG conversion, a Holandia 400 sunroof and tint. Not much from then till now.

Yesterday however, we took delivery of a big brake kit from Ultra Performance Products Vic. 330mm cross drilled front rotors, PBR twin pot sliding calipers, matching stock size drilled rear rotors, braided lines etc. Very happy! :D

These will be underneath Billet Specialty Vintec wheels which we will order in a couple weeks once we have the rotors on and have calculated the exact back space we need (billet wheels are good like that, just dont get the measurements wrong!) We will have 17 x 8' fronts and 17 x 9.5" rears wrapped in 225/55/17 fronts and 255/50/17 rears. When the wheels arrive the whole lot will go to Pedders for a fresh suspension including tower brace and camber/caster kit. The car will be lowered 1.5" front and rear which, given the larger wheel/tyres, will give us the look of a lowered car with pretty much the same room under the car for the everyday battle with speed humps and gutters. All the above will be engineer approved too. All this will be finished in the next two months max.

The engine mods will wait till early next year when Profire W.A. release their all in one Petrol/LPG ECU which is compatible with our Parnell VSI conversion. This is a VERY tuneable ECU that makes the Parnell unit completely obsolete. And the best for last. Our engine is 140,000kms young and in perfect unopened condition so rather than replace intake/exhaust manifolds, cam, heads etc. we want to just boost what is already there. We are leaning toward the Raptor V supercharger at the moment.

And to that end we are really glad to have found this forum so we can spend the next six months or so learning all we can about boosting our windsor before we get into the engine bay of what is going to be the car we will have for as long as there are fossil fuels to burn.

Cheers!
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Bipolar » July 30th, 2008, 11:54 pm

Must... see... pics! Definitely when you've got 9" filling the rear wheel wells.

Sounds like a nice example you've got. You should be well educated on boosted Windsors in 6 months and will hopefully save some $ as a result. Are you gonna take it down the quarter to see what she does pre-boost?

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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Craney » July 31st, 2008, 12:43 am

Bipolar wrote:Must... see... pics! Definitely when you've got 9" filling the rear wheel wells.

Sounds like a nice example you've got. You should be well educated on boosted Windsors in 6 months and will hopefully save some $ as a result. Are you gonna take it down the quarter to see what she does pre-boost?

Welcome to Boosted :)


Cheers.

We'll definitely put it on the dyno pre boost. I've never done a quarter and part of the mods along the way that I didn't mention before is the swapping of the 4 speed auto for a 5 or 6 speed manual which will happen around the same time as the boost so there may be little to compare before/after. We will definitely do a quarter mile run when all is finished tho.
We're going to start a build thread with pics as soon as we get a detail done :)
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby LTDHO » July 31st, 2008, 7:31 am

Nice sounding car you have there Crane, can't wait to see pix!
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Eb Barbie » July 31st, 2008, 8:08 am

Welcome Andrew and Lynny :) Will keep an eye out for your build thread.
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Commando » July 31st, 2008, 8:24 am

Welcome guys! Sounds like a top quality ongoing project you've got happening there. Looking forward to the build thread :D

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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Kyle the ED4LTR » July 31st, 2008, 8:25 am

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Re: New to Boosted

Postby galapogos01 » July 31st, 2008, 8:59 am

nice one.

how much was the brake kit worth, if you dont mind my asking?
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Craney » July 31st, 2008, 10:51 am

galapogos01 wrote:nice one.

how much was the brake kit worth, if you dont mind my asking?


Thank you all for the welcome :)

We were a bit lucky with the brakes. We got told about U.P.C. (which is in Croyden Vic.) just as we were resigning ourselves to having to use standard size replacement rotors (we were going to go with the DBA street series gold drilled rotors) U.P.C. sell some of their gear on Ebay which had us a bit concerned at the start but after a call we were happy that these are all aussie made components that are machined at the place of sale.

The bottom line is that the recommended retail price is $1790 for the comprehensive front kit, including two strut/uprights for which there is a $100 refund when we take back our old ones .

U.P.C. sell them on Ebay for $1590 "Buy it now" regularly but every so often they sell a kit on a no reserve auction. And despite some serious sniping by others in the last 30 seconds of the auction we got the lot for $1036.58

Cross drilling was $70 (we didnt want slotting), matching drilled rear rotors in stock size were $170 and rear pads were $55 so once we get the refund for our old uprights the whole thing will have cost us $$1230 + fitting. I dont know how much fitting will be, but it doesn't really matter, Pedders will be fitting them as part of our suspension refurb.

This is the result of our win with some more detail
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FALCON-EA-EB-ED-EF-EL-330-MM-BRAKES-GT-XR6-XR8-TICKFORD_W0QQitemZ140249190833QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6763QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It was well worth it.

Oh yeah, the minimum wheel diameter needs to be 17" and even some 17s are not quite big enough. However U.P.C. have been able to machine the ends of the calipers to fit these.

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Re: New to Boosted

Postby galapogos01 » July 31st, 2008, 12:07 pm

OK, thanks for the reply. So this is the kit that gives you a strange +20 wheel offset? Neither AU nor E-Series?
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Craney » July 31st, 2008, 1:15 pm

galapogos01 wrote:OK, thanks for the reply. So this is the kit that gives you a strange +20 wheel offset? Neither AU nor E-Series?


Yeah, the hub face sits 20mm further out than the stock item, each side. Which means that to have the wheel be in the same place reletive to the guards would mean an offset of 26mm (original offset of +6mm plus 20) Apparently they also do them in 28mm further out as well (which gives a relative total of 34mm offset) which is only 2mm short of AU. We went for the narrower ones as we want plenty of depth to our billet wheels. I'll take some photos now and try to post them in a thread in the brakes forum.
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Bipolar » July 31st, 2008, 1:23 pm

Apart from neck-warping stopping power, the EL will look tuff with those shining through the rims.
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby AaronEF8 » July 31st, 2008, 1:42 pm

I remember seeing this car on AFF a while ago I think. The sunroof is black canvas that slides on top of the roof isn't it?

http://www.executiveautocare.co.uk/imag ... _large.jpg

The LPG/petrol ECU sounds interesting, will be good to see some results when they become available.

One thing I did notice was you mentioned the 225/55R17 tyres for the front. They're too tall to fit and will hit the top of the spindle. Something to keep in mind before you spend $500+ on tyres.
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby galapogos01 » July 31st, 2008, 2:04 pm

Nice one.

I really like my current wheels, which sadly rules out these brake kits for me. My tyres hit the guard as it is, bugger bumping out 20mm!

Cheers for the info.
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Re: New to Boosted

Postby Craney » August 2nd, 2008, 3:20 pm

AaronEF8 wrote:I remember seeing this car on AFF a while ago I think. The sunroof is black canvas that slides on top of the roof isn't it?

http://www.executiveautocare.co.uk/imag ... _large.jpg

The LPG/petrol ECU sounds interesting, will be good to see some results when they become available.

One thing I did notice was you mentioned the 225/55R17 tyres for the front. They're too tall to fit and will hit the top of the spindle. Something to keep in mind before you spend $500+ on tyres.

Yes, thats the car, still going strong. The Profire ECU is slated to be an absolutely brilliant tuner. Considering the disappointment the Parnell box is, we cant wait.

Because we can have our 8" rims machined to whatever backspace we want we are pretty sure we can fit the tyres in the wheel wells. Particularly with the extra offset available by rolling the front guards. It should fit. We will post pics of the measuring when we get the brakes in.

Bipolar wrote:Apart from neck-warping stopping power, the EL will look tuff with those shining through the rims.

I've always wanted big drilled rotors :D For so long in fact that we are old schooling in a way by not having slots as well.

galapogos01 wrote:Nice one.

I really like my current wheels, which sadly rules out these brake kits for me. My tyres hit the guard as it is, bugger bumping out 20mm!

Cheers for the info.

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