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Postby NODDY » August 4th, 2008, 7:18 pm

Hi i was just curious if anyone knows how hard it might be to get an AU motor running in an old carby car(47' model). Will have a budget of 10-15 grand for purchase and transfer into car. Will only be a 6 so just want to know if anyone has done this with one. Also planning to put brakes and p/s in if possible. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby G3R3N » August 4th, 2008, 7:31 pm

You will need to setup wiring for injection and ECU stuff. PS may be difficult to setup as well. What kind of car are you putting it in?
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby serial_fool » August 4th, 2008, 7:32 pm

The AU I6 engine is practically the same as a E series 3.9 or 4.0 externally apart from a different shaped sump and they run coil packs instead of dizzys. The coils can be replaced with a dizzy though and can run with a EA-EB-ED-EL ECU.

Thing's you'd need-
1. Complete AU engine with the lot (intake, p/s pumps, serp belt setup, etc.)
2. Engine bay wiring from EA-EB-ED-EL (I'd get one of the earlier models so you don't have to fvck around with SmartLock), E series Dizzy and a EA-EB-ED- EL ECU.
3. E Series/ A series engine/transmission mounting brackets.
4. Possibly a AU/ Eseries transmission/ bellhousing unless you want to get a bellhousing made up for a older gearbox to fit onto the AU 4.0.
5. Custom tailshaft if you go with a non- standard gearbox to accomodate the different car length differences.
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby NODDY » August 4th, 2008, 7:49 pm

Customer wants us to put new running gear in his '47 Ford woody. Think a AU 6 will be best as it already has a 250 crossflow in it, but am unshore on how much effort it would take to get running.would EL be easier as e-series loom and nearly AU motor. Dont want a dizzy, would rather coils.
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby G3R3N » August 4th, 2008, 8:20 pm

serial_fool wrote:The coils can be replaced with a dizzy though and can run with a EA-EB-ED-EL ECU.

Sif that would work with the BBM manifold but...
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby Commando » August 4th, 2008, 8:28 pm

gerendasi wrote:
serial_fool wrote:The coils can be replaced with a dizzy though and can run with a EA-EB-ED-EL ECU.

Sif that would work with the BBM manifold but...


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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby serial_fool » August 4th, 2008, 9:00 pm

Yeah ok I contradicted myself with the early E series ECU + AU BBM. Just trying to steer the guy away from the headfvck that is Smartlock (which is unnessasary in his application).
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby serial_fool » August 4th, 2008, 9:02 pm

NODDY wrote:Customer wants us to put new running gear in his '47 Ford woody. Think a AU 6 will be best as it already has a 250 crossflow in it, but am unshore on how much effort it would take to get running.would EL be easier as e-series loom and nearly AU motor. Dont want a dizzy, would rather coils.


Oh btw the EL had a dizzy so you would be looking at the EF falcons that came with the coils. O ryou could just get a AU loom :oops:
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby krisisdog » August 4th, 2008, 9:55 pm

Commando wrote:
gerendasi wrote:
serial_fool wrote:The coils can be replaced with a dizzy though and can run with a EA-EB-ED-EL ECU.

Sif that would work with the BBM manifold but...


sif ignore the entire EL Falcon range


I'd like to know a coil / dizzy has any impact o the intake firstly :?:

When you can explain that one, we'll worry about the EL.
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby serial_fool » August 4th, 2008, 10:51 pm

It would if the ECU he uses doesnt match up.

BBM Manfold + Coil Pack+ EL ECU= FAIL.
BBM Manifold+ Coil Pack+ EA,EB,ED ECU= MEGA FAIL.
BBM Manifold + Coild Pack+ EF/AU ECU= Succeed.
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby G3R3N » August 4th, 2008, 11:07 pm

Yeah I figure you could use either an EL or EF ECU seeing as they both had the BBM, is that right?
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby SnyperEB » August 4th, 2008, 11:21 pm

I have always wanted to build an XY with an EL XR8 motor and I intend to in the coming year. Old scholl for the win!!
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby G3R3N » August 4th, 2008, 11:35 pm

That sounds like an interesting coversion Synpey!
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby krisisdog » August 4th, 2008, 11:39 pm

gerendasi wrote:Yeah I figure you could use either an EL or EF ECU seeing as they both had the BBM, is that right?


You can only use an EF ECU for an EF motor, unless you turf the coils. You can probably also use an AU ECU, EFs and AU1s had the same coilpack.
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Re: AU running gear in old school car

Postby nommic » August 4th, 2008, 11:43 pm

It has been done with a mustang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPyCDF1zwg4

That one runs on LPG, which probably simplifies the fuelling side of things.

This vid clearly shows twin convertors, and what I think is a GRA throttle-body (I don't much about LPG systems... someone else can fill in the blanks):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn3D4A9g ... re=related
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