FALCN6 to cop a new heart

Post by **EFFalcon** » August 9th, 2008, 12:04 pm

Well... what i thought to be a good car has turned out not to be so.
my low KM AU (27,000 km's) has a massive amount of rust in it.
********* AU's

so... looks like the EF will get a new motor and gearbox

BLKPHN · Post by **BLKPHN** » August 9th, 2008, 12:05 pm

Another engine???

Kaddis · Post by **Kaddis** » August 9th, 2008, 12:24 pm

Are we talking AU as in an engine or a car?

holmsy · Post by **holmsy** » August 9th, 2008, 12:30 pm

au car has rust in it.
au engine is going from rusty car into his ef.

that will be good man. bout time ya gave it a good motor to start off

LUXO_8 · Post by **LUXO_8** » August 9th, 2008, 1:39 pm

good stuff......

going to put front suspension in as well?

Post by **TUFED6** » August 9th, 2008, 1:50 pm

WTF happened to an AU for it to be rusty?

purped · Post by **purped** » August 9th, 2008, 1:51 pm

i smell a tutorial coming

holmsy · Post by **holmsy** » August 9th, 2008, 2:22 pm

purped wrote:i smell a tutorial coming

on what? au motor swap?
been done multiple times before

LTDHO · Post by **LTDHO** » August 9th, 2008, 2:25 pm

Wow, I thought it only had 'a little rust'?

Oh well, AU motor in EF it is then. At least it's got very low klms.

Post by **Sunboost** » August 9th, 2008, 2:36 pm

Seems like a waste to strip a 27000km AU even if it does have some rust. All AU's do.

Post by **t2te50** » August 9th, 2008, 2:53 pm

27,000kms and heaps of rust? Did u buy it from a stolen and recovered auction or something?
Buy yourself a descent car to begin with John so you don't have to root around so much. I know frankenstein and falcon 6 mean alot to you, but like me old mate Robert (you met up at Winton) you've just got to let it go.

private9 · Post by **private9** » August 9th, 2008, 2:57 pm

Would love to see some of this rust, got any pics? Very common in AU's for a few specific areas, but how bad are we talking?

ed40 · Post by **ed40** » August 9th, 2008, 2:57 pm

Did he ask for your advice? Sif let this car go. Good luck with the conversion

XRated · Post by **XRated** » August 9th, 2008, 3:20 pm

B-Series rust. Strip em all.

EF ECTIV · Post by **EF ECTIV** » August 9th, 2008, 3:22 pm

t2te50 wrote:27,000kms and heaps of rust? Did u buy it from a stolen and recovered auction or something?
Buy yourself a descent car to begin with John so you don't have to root around so much. I know frankenstein and falcon 6 mean alot to you, but like me old mate Robert (you met up at Winton) you've just got to let it go.

hasnt Falcon6 just been resprayed? Why would he wanna get rid of it?

Post by **Sunboost** » August 9th, 2008, 3:29 pm

I'm guessing the rust is where the engine box metals meet up and/or cross over and overlap, where they have skimped on sealer and there is some metal exposed to the elements sitting hidden under painted areas. These areas also trap moisture and other foreign shiat which accelerates the rust process. All AU to B-Series and some EF and ELs are affected by this. They also tend to rust a fair bit in the boot where the quarter panels meet the boot gutters, and also where the gas struts are mounted to the body.

I've seen some bad shit in 100,000km-ish AU1 Fortes, but they should still get about $5k with that many KM's on the second hand market. Better $$$ than you'll ever get from stripping it.

Malakai · Post by **Malakai** » August 9th, 2008, 4:39 pm

AU anything FTL

Post by **Commando** » August 9th, 2008, 5:21 pm

89AIT wrote:AU anything FTL

Windsor parts

Post by **EFFalcon** » August 9th, 2008, 6:09 pm

ok since most of you don't know the full story, i'll outline it.

the AU has rust in about 6 spots along the door sils, enough for me to put a spanner through it.
there is also a couple of holes about the size of 20 cent pieces in one of the chassis rails, along with rust surrounding it.

theres a chunk of metal the side of a tenis ball missing behind one of the front guards

aaaaaaaaaand thats all found with about a 10min look under the car.
still think i should repair it?

AND, the story of how i got the car.
i inherited it from my Pop when he passed away.
the car was barely used, sat on a slope about 5km from Botany Bay (near sydney)
so the salt water would obviously have a big effect on the car.

the car had had previous rust repairs done earlier in its life also.

I'd be prepared to fix a little rust, but theres just too much in it.
and why would i want to buy another car?
i LIKE to mess around with my cars, i drive the EF every day, its cheap to run, relatively quick, plenty of potential and very enjoyable to drive.

Steady · Post by **Steady** » August 9th, 2008, 6:13 pm

Fucken hell, thats nasty John.
Turf it, only an AU.

Post by **EFFalcon** » August 9th, 2008, 6:16 pm

i'll get some pics of the rust at some stage.
i don't think it'd have a chance of passing a roady

Post by **fordbaby** » August 9th, 2008, 6:20 pm

as if get rid of the ef, YES john does put alot of time and pride into the car so BACK OFF. why get a decent car when he HAS a DECENT car. get rid of your crappy au and get a decent car to start with????
as john said he inherited tha car and the body of it has alot of rust so why not put a perfectly good motor in the ef huh. better motor better running car, smart thinking by john i would think.
exactly falcn6 has just been reprayed and its looking MINT so why even consider a new car

Dansedgli · Post by **Dansedgli** » August 9th, 2008, 6:20 pm

Strip it then scrap it!

The only good AU is a parted AU.

holmsy · Post by **holmsy** » August 9th, 2008, 6:44 pm

put the ef motor in the au

then bring it down to my place

Post by **EFFalcon** » August 9th, 2008, 7:12 pm

we thought about that holmsy

but i've got an EA lined up

holmsy · Post by **holmsy** » August 9th, 2008, 7:17 pm

aww but i want to see an au get murdered

UNEZED · Post by **UNEZED** » August 9th, 2008, 8:31 pm

lol kill an au

Post by **t2te50** » August 9th, 2008, 9:36 pm

fordbaby wrote:as if get rid of the ef, YES john does put alot of time and pride into the car so BACK OFF. why get a decent car when he HAS a DECENT car.
as john said he inherited tha car and the body of it has alot of rust so why not put a perfectly good motor in the ef huh. better motor better running car, smart thinking by john i would think.
exactly falcn6 has just been reprayed and its looking MINT so why even consider a new car

Was this a response to my post?? Each to their own I suppose and if you use it as a daily hack I can see your reluctanct to pour excessive amounts of money into it. So I retract my judgement.

get rid of your crappy au and get a decent car to start with????

Canning the mighty T series is sacraligious FORDBABY, they had the greatest factory 302W of their time, best rear suspension out of any falcon to date and mechanically are one of the most COHESSIVE mass produced factory sedans I will ever have the pleasure of driving.

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » August 9th, 2008, 10:04 pm

Any factory 302 < A proper aftermarket one.

89AIT wrote:AU anything FTL

+1

serial_fool · Post by **serial_fool** » August 9th, 2008, 10:07 pm

Who gives a shit about the T series? A well maintained MPI EA six with a decent cam and exhaust system would whip it for around the price of the bodykit off a T series. And to break down your arguements:
1. The IRS on the AU model in general made them slow as all fvck due to the added weight.
2. The 302 Windsors HAD to be the best of their time because they were getting a arse raping from Holden's LS-whatever engine and the pissweak 170-185 KWs wasn't enough.
3. Mechanically Cohessive? A matter of opinion.

Dezza · Post by **Dezza** » August 9th, 2008, 10:49 pm

t2te50, first up let me say I like the T-series. But to me it appears that because you own one, you are looking down your nose at all the e-series owners, and basically rate yourself a step above. I've never met you person, so I don't know what you're really like, so I may be wrong, but on the forums this is the impression I'm getting.

Back on topic, John, shame about the rust in the AU but hopefully you can continue to improve on the EF. Top stuff.

Post by **Sunboost** » August 10th, 2008, 11:22 am

I have brochures for original T-Series sent to me by FTE back in 99 or 2000. These are in mint condition and come with the large fancy envelope provided by Ford marketing.

You can have them for $1000 t2te50.

Post by **BLCKED** » August 10th, 2008, 12:08 pm

there is no such thing as a great factory windsor

krisisdog · Post by **krisisdog** » August 10th, 2008, 12:26 pm

BLCKED wrote:there is no such thing as a great factory windsor

If you live in the states there is, lucky fkrs could option a V1 equipped 351Windsor in a Saleen mustang. 480hp. This was in the mid 90s too.
And what do we have? some asthmatic wheezers. Good old Ford Australia.

Post by **EFFalcon** » August 10th, 2008, 12:44 pm

i wouldn't call a saleen a 'factory' motor

krisisdog · Post by **krisisdog** » August 10th, 2008, 12:47 pm

hey, its pretty close. saleen is like tickford... sort of...

OED666 · Post by **OED666** » August 10th, 2008, 6:44 pm

got the motor in yet...

Post by **BLCKED** » August 10th, 2008, 6:59 pm

krisisdog wrote:
BLCKED wrote:there is no such thing as a great factory windsor
If you live in the states there is, lucky fkrs could option a V1 equipped 351Windsor in a Saleen mustang. 480hp. This was in the mid 90s too.
And what do we have? some asthmatic wheezers. Good old Ford Australia.

i will rephrase

there is no such thing as a great factory 302 windsor.

happy?

EdFairmontGhia · Post by **EdFairmontGhia** » August 10th, 2008, 7:57 pm

Would still be worth chucking the ef motor into the Au to get more cash out of the thing... or too much effort?

Post by **t2te50** » August 10th, 2008, 8:07 pm

BLCKED wrote:
krisisdog wrote:
BLCKED wrote:there is no such thing as a great factory windsor
If you live in the states there is, lucky fkrs could option a V1 equipped 351Windsor in a Saleen mustang. 480hp. This was in the mid 90s too.
And what do we have? some asthmatic wheezers. Good old Ford Australia.

i will rephrase

there is no such thing as a great factory 302 windsor.

happy?

If you had my stockish motor under your hood I bet you'd think its christmas

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