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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby FairmontXR6 » August 27th, 2008, 6:24 pm

I hate how the sellers allways write this "GOOD CONDITION, NO: 157 OF ONLY 250 MADE. ORIGINAL CAR, FAMILY CAR LADY DRIVER FOR PAST 5 YEARS", so what??? If the lady was my Mum, I wound't buy it, she never bothers to do oil changes on time (VY II Berlina), plus she's a lead foot! I suppose, thats okay thou, I wouldn't service a holden either :D
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby glenneaux » August 27th, 2008, 6:29 pm

eb gt = teh sex

pity its a v8 :P
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby serial_fool » August 27th, 2008, 7:20 pm

Meh.

EB GT = $19,000 and it does a 15.2 1/4 mile.

Low KM V8 EB2/ED Ghia with all leather+ 351 Windsor crate engine+ new suspension componets+ proper shift kit+ 17" plus rims= Less than $19,000 and it would do a low 14 1/4 mile.

Do you really just want to pay a premium for a fancy name, a revised version of a engine that would otherwise be asmatic, woodgrain inserts, a different steering rack and a fugly body kit?
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby 67rce » August 27th, 2008, 7:30 pm

serial_fool wrote:Meh.

EB GT = $19,000 and it does a 15.2 1/4 mile.

Low KM V8 EB2/ED Ghia with all leather+ 351 Windsor crate engine+ new suspension componets+ proper shift kit+ 17" plus rims= Less than $19,000 and it would do a low 14 1/4 mile.

Do you really just want to pay a premium for a fancy name, a revised version of a engine that would otherwise be asmatic, woodgrain inserts, a different steering rack and a fugly body kit?


Where are you pulling those prices from??? Low K EB2-ED Ghia V8 (assuming good condition too) - $2500-4500, 351 Crate Motor - Roughly $7-10K (These use BRAND NEW Sportsman Blocks), proper shift kit - $500, New decent 17"s - $1500-2k with semi decent rubber, new suspension gear (im assuming all new) good stuff (Koni/Bilstien/Whiteline) $2k ish....$13500 - $18500, not including getting an exhaust to suit the 351, engineering, etc
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby Steady » August 27th, 2008, 7:52 pm

serial_fool wrote:Meh.

EB GT = $19,000 and it does a 15.2 1/4 mile.

Low KM V8 EB2/ED Ghia with all leather+ 351 Windsor crate engine+ new suspension componets+ proper shift kit+ 17" plus rims= Less than $19,000 and it would do a low 14 1/4 mile.

Do you really just want to pay a premium for a fancy name, a revised version of a engine that would otherwise be asmatic, woodgrain inserts, a different steering rack and a fugly body kit?

And 1 year down the track...

EB GT = still worth 19+k.
EB2/ED Ghia with 351 + new suspension + shift kit + 17" rims? = still worth less then 19k.

You don't buy an EB GT to go fast.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby Dansedgli » August 27th, 2008, 7:57 pm

I raced a EB GT in an EB Gli once. My EB won and lost at the same time.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby FairmontXR6 » August 27th, 2008, 8:07 pm

Dansedgli wrote:I raced a EB GT in an EB Gli once. My EB won and lost at the same time.

Nice, I know what you mean. ;)
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby SnyperEB » August 27th, 2008, 8:31 pm

I cant think of any other word then SEXY. EB GT's by far my favourite E-Series!!!!!
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby nstg8a » August 27th, 2008, 8:37 pm

yeah, i have to admit i would rather have a clone than the real thing.

the clone you could drive, modify etc, the real thing will have to be wrapped in cotton wool if you wanna try and keep the value up...
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby serial_fool » August 27th, 2008, 10:31 pm

Nah mate, just a serial one.

Car are made to be driven, not to be babied like mummys fucking darling because of the percieved "history" of the model. The original GTs were built to be driven hard by the bathurst-wanna-bees (much like the E series now)but the EB and EL GTs were just glorified V8 Fairmont Ghias IMO. The mock would wipe the floor in every area except from resale value and uglyness even if you didn't use the 351 crate engine.

The EB GT was a Ghia anyway with a VL Walkinshaw imitator bodykit and extra "35"KW ( I use quotations because everyone knows it never was 200 in street guise).
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby wicksy » August 27th, 2008, 10:40 pm

a GT is a GT, whether it be a EL or EB, if i had the choice between a tarted up ghia which 800hp and a GT i would take a GT, it holds it value, and my fiance said your a cockhead! **** even she said she would take a GT
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby serial_fool » August 27th, 2008, 10:46 pm

The problem is you fucking idiot, the GT is a tarted up Ghia even if it has that ever-so-very-special GT badge on the doortrims and the boot garnish. Now go back to touching yourself over pictures of the XY GTHO.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby BLCKED » August 27th, 2008, 11:00 pm

serial_fool wrote:The problem is you fucking idiot, the GT is a tarted up Ghia even if it has that ever-so-very-special GT badge on the doortrims and the boot garnish. Now go back to touching yourself over pictures of the XY GTHO.



a GT is actually based off a falcon.

there were origonally called a "falcon GT"

GT stands for grand tourer.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby needfordspeed » August 27th, 2008, 11:03 pm

I'd be pissed off if I spent all that money on a ghia and ran a low 14.

But anyway, tone it down guys I don't wanna have to sort this shit out
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby BLCKED » August 27th, 2008, 11:05 pm

wicksy wrote:well mr fool what is a Sprint then?



sprint is a special limited edition xr8
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby serial_fool » August 27th, 2008, 11:09 pm

The ED Sprint is what the EB GT should of been (maybe they should of used a leather interior though). The sprint was based on a xr8 right?

Just ask T2TE50 about running low 14's after spending 9K on the engine.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby serial_fool » August 27th, 2008, 11:15 pm

You are right about the X series GTs being based on the normal Falcon but i think the E series ones came from the Ford Factory as Ghias.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby 67rce » August 27th, 2008, 11:37 pm

The XW and XY GT's were based on the Fairmont, how many factory Falcon 500's and Futura's came factory with full length door cards? NONE, only the Fairmont (back then the equivalent of the Ghia, as Fairmont was top of the Luxo Falcon range), so mate, go back to pulling yourself
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby Sunboost » August 27th, 2008, 11:46 pm

Thread cleaned. Might not make much sense now but all the downey hero posts are gone. Gill shoulda fkn done it.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby serial_fool » August 28th, 2008, 12:27 am

67rce wrote:The XW and XY GT's were based on the Fairmont, how many factory Falcon 500's and Futura's came factory with full length door cards? NONE, only the Fairmont (back then the equivalent of the Ghia, as Fairmont was top of the Luxo Falcon range), so mate, go back to pulling yourself


Nah I call bullshit. The Fairmont couldn't of been the base since most of the STOCK GTs were so ill-equiped it wasn't funny. Check out this quote from Wiki about the GTHOs (which were obviously based on a GT).

"The only thing that was standard on the GTHO that was optional on the GT was the 36 gallon fuel tank. You had to pay extra for the left hand mirror. You had to pay extra for the radio. Yout had to pay extra for window winders (otherwise a screwdriver was necessary to wind down the windows). You had to pay extra for the bumper bar overriders and you had to pay extra for the privilege of owning the greatest race car ever produced by Ford Australia."

I'd assume in 1972 that a Left hand mirror, radio, window winders, etc would of been standard on a Fairmont yeah?

At any rate, lets stop this shitfight about ancient cars.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby 67rce » August 28th, 2008, 12:35 am

serial_fool wrote:
67rce wrote:The XW and XY GT's were based on the Fairmont, how many factory Falcon 500's and Futura's came factory with full length door cards? NONE, only the Fairmont (back then the equivalent of the Ghia, as Fairmont was top of the Luxo Falcon range), so mate, go back to pulling yourself


Nah I call bullshit. The Fairmont couldn't of been the base since most of the STOCK GTs were so ill-equiped it wasn't funny. Check out this quote from Wiki about the GTHOs (which were obviously based on a GT).

"The only thing that was standard on the GTHO that was optional on the GT was the 36 gallon fuel tank. You had to pay extra for the left hand mirror. You had to pay extra for the radio. Yout had to pay extra for window winders (otherwise a screwdriver was necessary to wind down the windows). You had to pay extra for the bumper bar overriders and you had to pay extra for the privilege of owning the greatest race car ever produced by Ford Australia."

I'd assume in 1972 that a Left hand mirror, radio, window winders, etc would of been standard on a Fairmont yeah?

At any rate, lets stop this shitfight about ancient cars.

Window winders were factory fitted, left hand mirror was optional until 1972 on all Falcons, ( XY GT/HO was 1971) an 8 Track was standard, radio was an option on all, over riders were not standard issue on anything.....
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby Steady » August 28th, 2008, 6:46 am

serial_fool wrote:Nah mate, just a serial one.

Car are made to be driven, not to be babied like mummys fucking darling because of the percieved "history" of the model. The original GTs were built to be driven hard by the bathurst-wanna-bees (much like the E series now)but the EB and EL GTs were just glorified V8 Fairmont Ghias IMO. The mock would wipe the floor in every area except from resale value and uglyness even if you didn't use the 351 crate engine.

The EB GT was a Ghia anyway with a VL Walkinshaw imitator bodykit and extra "35"KW ( I use quotations because everyone knows it never was 200 in street guise).

So lets say you had an XW GT. Surprise surprise, it's actually not that quick by modern standards.
Do you then say that a modified XW Falcon with alot of engine work is a better car?

You ever even driven an E-Series with the hipo GT/Sprint motor?
Or is your opinion based on stuff you read in a magazine?
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby BLCKED » August 28th, 2008, 5:08 pm

x series gts were falcons not fairmonts...
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby pHaT`eL » August 28th, 2008, 5:31 pm

Who cares what its based on. It IS still a GT. Anyone can make a fake one faster, but as said earlier, its not gona hold its value.
Sure there not fast, none of the GT's were. The GTHO was the one that was built to go fast.
I bet guys in the 70's had the same arguement about making fake XW/XY GT's and the ones who bought the real ones are probably still laughing right now.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby Dezza » August 28th, 2008, 6:06 pm

BLCKED wrote:x series gts were falcons not fairmonts...
They were called Falcon GTs but were based on the Fairmont. That's because they were "Grand Tourers". Similarly with the E-series, they're based on the Fairmont Ghia, but called a Falcon GT.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby Nikk O'lass » August 28th, 2008, 8:46 pm

Dezza wrote:
BLCKED wrote:x series gts were falcons not fairmonts...
They were called Falcon GTs but were based on the Fairmont. That's because they were "Grand Tourers". Similarly with the E-series, they're based on the Fairmont Ghia, but called a Falcon GT.


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EB GT's lacked the perfomance edge of old GT's, having more of an emphisis on the grand tourer aspect, while the elder GT's had a bit more racing pedagree.

EB GT's are only gonna get more expensive IMO... :?
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby old_mate » August 28th, 2008, 10:21 pm

BLCKED wrote:x series gts were falcons not fairmonts...


Bullshit.

GT's came standard with the full door trims, the interior woodgrain, windlacing, bucket seats, c pillar internal lights, all sorts of Fairmont shit. The deported GT's to South Africa are exactly the same spec wise but called a Fairmont GT. They were called Falcon GT's here, but were basically a tarted up Fairmont.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby EL XR8 » August 29th, 2008, 8:23 am

Dansedgli wrote:I raced a EB GT in an EB Gli once. My EB won and lost at the same time.


That is seriously the best way to describe it.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby XRated » August 29th, 2008, 9:22 am

It's still a $19k EB to me.
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby MR-3C » August 29th, 2008, 7:10 pm

hey, its fine by me if people want to spend thier dollars tarting up a stocko falcon or fairmont, stops them killing real GT's and Sprints
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby 4LEDboy » August 29th, 2008, 9:43 pm

Very nice example of an EB GT, Why everyone has to fight about it beats the shit out of me! :roll:
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Re: EBGT on carsales

Postby stav50 » August 29th, 2008, 9:49 pm

yeh not quite what i expected either, but oh well, funny read
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