best fuel

by **thebeast.** » October 13th, 2008, 10:12 am

im sick of running shit house fuel in my EL, going to put high quality fuel in it every week seeing how its only a few bucks extra per tank.
does anyone have any prefered fuel?? better quaity then others?
thanks, paul

by **Jake** » October 13th, 2008, 10:25 am

I find BP ultimate premium gets more K's than any other premium fuel (caltex) if that helps...

by **thebeast.** » October 13th, 2008, 10:28 am

ive heard that shells top notch stuff is alright? anyone uses that??

by **Dansedgli** » October 13th, 2008, 10:30 am

Whats wrong with the regular fuel you are putting in?

by **Kyle the ED4LTR** » October 13th, 2008, 10:32 am

thebeast. wrote:ive heard that shells top notch stuff is alright? anyone uses that??

Are you talking about V Power?, i was using that for a while, a llil bit more economy but I noticed a kick in performance.

Vortex isnt bad, got some decent economy with Vortex 98.

but then again like Dan said, whats wrong with your current fuel?

by **thebeast.** » October 13th, 2008, 10:33 am

well nothing, but some ppl only use the better quality fuel.
higher octaine, better fuel ecconamy, clearer fuel etc

by **Dansedgli** » October 13th, 2008, 10:36 am

It is all BS if your motor is made to run regular fuel like 99.99% of E series falcons.

by **Commando** » October 13th, 2008, 10:40 am

Why are you sick of unleaded? What's it done?

Higher RON fuel will be a backwards step in a daily stocker, especially if most of your driving is <1/2 throttle. It's only good for if your car is tuned from the factory for it, or if you've got high compression, boost, advanced timing (for reasons other than wank factor), and regularly thrash your car.

By all means, go for it if you love the smell of unburnt fuel, & don't mind fouling your spark plugs, oxy sensor, killing your cat...

Not to mention reduced fuel economy & paying more at the bowser.

by **Commando** » October 13th, 2008, 10:48 am

Kyle the ED4LTR wrote:
thebeast. wrote:ive heard that shells top notch stuff is alright? anyone uses that??

Are you talking about V Power?, i was using that for a while, a llil bit more economy but I noticed a kick in performance.

If you were to undertake two back-to-back dyno tests, one with $5 of 91RON in the tank, then one with $5 of 98RON in the tank, I'll bet the only difference on your readouts for your ED will be in the AFRs

by **edfairmont4.0** » October 13th, 2008, 10:51 am

Advance your timing. Then you will gain performance from 98Octane. and it WILL be noticeable.

by **Commando** » October 13th, 2008, 10:57 am

On a stocker though?

by **Frost** » October 13th, 2008, 11:06 am

Just run ethanol fuel that they sell E10 or what ever it is...

A++++ Will use it again and again.

by **edfairmont4.0** » October 13th, 2008, 11:14 am

Commando wrote:On a stocker though?

yeah shit yeah stockers respond quite well!

DONT run ethanol..... Good way to corrode your ALLOY head and **** your fuel lines etc...

by **Frost** » October 13th, 2008, 11:18 am

Ethanol corroding your allow head? Evidence of this?

Fuel lines yes, it fucks the rubbers on the fuel lines if not checked regularly, infact its bad for rubber if the rubber is not right for it....

But there an article in one of the ford mags that a guy has been running his FPV on ethanol for 30,000km, and were talking like 65%. Ford seem to say there's no issue on any of there cars after 1987. And my mate has ran it on his BA Wagon for 40,000km religiously and he hasn't had an issue

by **edfairmont4.0** » October 13th, 2008, 11:42 am

I read that it corrodes alloy.

before that, i was considering running E85...

Do you have any power increase on running E10??? Is it very noticable, i know ethanol has a higher octane is it 105? and it needs 9.7:1 AFR to run properly so a E10 mix would be perfect would lean out the falcon just a bit and give it more power in theory.

by **edfairmont4.0** » October 13th, 2008, 11:43 am

*** that fella has an F6 doesnt he??? im sure he was running it on E85 and gained like 40kw with tuning and bigger injectors..

by **XRated** » October 13th, 2008, 12:06 pm

Just run it on regular unleaded and maybe put in a tank of premium every fourth time you fill up.

by **Commando** » October 13th, 2008, 12:07 pm

edfairmont4.0 wrote:
Commando wrote:On a stocker though?

yeah shit yeah stockers respond quite well!

Well there you go. My bad, I always figured it was something where you needed a bit of a combo happening already (ie say a cam & exhaust) to get any gains from it.

by **Frost** » October 13th, 2008, 12:28 pm

edfairmont4.0 wrote:I read that it corrodes alloy.

before that, i was considering running E85...

Do you have any power increase on running E10??? Is it very noticable, i know ethanol has a higher octane is it 105? and it needs 9.7:1 AFR to run properly so a E10 mix would be perfect would lean out the falcon just a bit and give it more power in theory.

Has its downfalls, I used 95ron E10 - I got more power but slightly less KM per tank - roughly around 20km. I used Boost 100 - E10, got more power and got roughly around 30 more km per tank.

Now I just use 95 Ron, BP or Vortex and I get rougly 20km more to the tank than 91 and my car doesnt run like a dog...

by **edfairmont4.0** » October 13th, 2008, 12:31 pm

cool cool, can you just buy fuel lines that are suited to Ethanol, because if no1 is having problems i wouldnt mind running it down the track on the worked engine.

by **Frost** » October 13th, 2008, 12:39 pm

I Beleive you can get rubber thats suited to it... Basically if you replace your rubber sections of the fuel lines with new rubber sections it should be right for a while, you just need to check them

by **thebeast.** » October 13th, 2008, 12:39 pm

the only other car ive used a booster with is my old magna, use to use this product http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj16 ... leaner.jpg
and it made a differnce. plus its ment to clean fuel lines and stop pinging.

by **purped** » October 13th, 2008, 1:24 pm

thebeast. wrote:the only other car ive used a booster with is my old magna, use to use this product http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj16 ... leaner.jpg
and it made a differnce. plus its ment to clean fuel lines and stop pinging.

WTF Mate i would not trust any of that shit i had a zd a while back mate borrowed it for a couple of weeks he stuck some shit in the motor an it ran like a bag of shit an smoke fuk did it smoke ended up selling the car.

by **thebeast.** » October 13th, 2008, 1:25 pm

what????

by **Frost** » October 13th, 2008, 2:01 pm

purped wrote:
thebeast. wrote:the only other car ive used a booster with is my old magna, use to use this product http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj16 ... leaner.jpg
and it made a differnce. plus its ment to clean fuel lines and stop pinging.

WTF Mate i would not trust any of that shit i had a zd a while back mate borrowed it for a couple of weeks he stuck some shit in the motor an it ran like a bag of shit an smoke fuk did it smoke ended up selling the car.

zd? fairlane? Being a Leaded petrol car?

There is you issue right there....

by **thebeast.** » October 13th, 2008, 2:04 pm

man that sucks. i thought it would be a benifet running higher octane fuel and a injecter cleaner/octane boost. cleaner fuel lines etc, higher preformance..

by **Frost** » October 13th, 2008, 2:20 pm

A ZD fairlane is pre 1986/87 ethanol fuel is not recommended for leaded cars.

by **t1MMy** » October 13th, 2008, 2:35 pm

I run jet fuel in mine. Im also going to spend $7,000 on the motor. Then ill bag you all out for not having a good base model car to start with

by **Kyle the ED4LTR** » October 13th, 2008, 2:45 pm

t1MMy wrote:I run jet fuel in mine. Im also going to spend $7,000 on the motor. Then ill bag you all out for not having a good base model car to start with

Y would you put AVGAS in this timmy

by **t1MMy** » October 13th, 2008, 2:50 pm

Coz my car has wings. I actually use red bull to fuel it up.

by **thebeast.** » October 13th, 2008, 2:51 pm

that would be an expensive tank of fuel

by **five point slow** » October 13th, 2008, 4:30 pm

70/30 mix diesel to avgas.

by **BLCKED** » October 13th, 2008, 5:14 pm

i run my car on 2 stroke during the week

and jack daniels over the weekend.

i read in a street machine, they compared v power to united's boost 98 ethanol stuff

the shell v power had better millage, but the ethanol petrol made sometihng like 2% more power or less i think, fer horse power on a dyno.

they used a stock xy ss gen 3. but yeah apparently it was caused due to the ethanol having more oxeygon in it then the v power wich created the slight increase in power,

was ever so slight tho and the fuel consuption was like 50 kms less per tank or something decent like that.

by **Rollin** » October 13th, 2008, 5:52 pm

On a stocker use normal fuel, if you really want to throw some BP Ultimate in there.

For gofast appliactions, of the 'normal' high octane fuels BP Ultimate is the way to go according to every single engine builder/tuner/performance garage I've ever spoken to. I haven't read up on the ethanol blends so I can't make any recommendations there.

by **Steady** » October 13th, 2008, 5:55 pm

Just add a few chlorine tablets to your petrol tank.
Gives you a bit more bang for your buck.

I've found I get slightly better economy from Vortex 98 over Ultimate, about 40kms difference a tank.

by **67rce** » October 13th, 2008, 8:31 pm

I'm getting around 350k's to a tank of V-Power atm in Cold Start Enrichment..... I was getting 360k's out of Ultimate when i had a thermostat..... damn supercrap wanting $45 for one, and repco not being able to get any for 3 weeks

by **XRated** » October 13th, 2008, 8:42 pm

350kms to a tank of V Power? Farkin' 'ell. How much does it cost you to fill up?

by **krisisdog** » October 13th, 2008, 9:14 pm

If its stock, run std 91 ulp, no ethanol. I noticed no change running stock with pulp.
if you have a decent cam + other mods, use pulp of some form.

I used to get 650kms out of a tank before I put the cam in, with a tank of 98 octane pulp I still got 600kms. Just because I was feeling stingy I put 50L of ulp in there, and got 400kms out of it, all hwy driving. Lesson - cam = pulp. Stock = ulp.

by **67rce** » October 13th, 2008, 9:42 pm

XRated wrote:350kms to a tank of V Power? Farkin' 'ell. How much does it cost you to fill up?

Umm from empty at current prices $102.
20.5L/100km FTMFL

by **bluntltd** » October 14th, 2008, 3:33 pm

I have been experimenting with the high octane stuff and can't really see that much of a benefit. I run a 1995 V8 LTD and it usually gets around 320-380 kms on a tank in stop start driving around town. On the highway as we know the V8 comes into its own and you get well 400-500 kms on a tank even more on a long run. I got 600 kms on a drive from Newcastle to Crookwell.
My auto transmision however is getting old and the shift up is lagging. Fuel economy is down.
Well the point is I don't seem to be getting any better economy out of the high octane stuff.

I get around 15.7L/100km around town.

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