EB Ghia's ghia. Written off. MODS PLEASE LOCK THREAD

by **EB_Ghia** » November 20th, 2008, 8:01 pm

huggiebear wrote:rockercover gaskets are cheap as.. just throw a new one on or borrow a recker cover and gasket from a mate

i know. silicon does the job too

but i want to swap the cams.
they did just say clean it so i'll just do that to get it past rw. tomorrow i'll take a pic of it. and you'll see its a old one that was never degreased..

by **pantic** » November 20th, 2008, 10:54 pm

try find a rubber one.. the cork screw ones are shit..

by **BROCKYB8** » November 21st, 2008, 8:08 am

RUbber ftw.
Cork ones are so shit .

by **EB_Ghia** » November 22nd, 2008, 3:53 pm

the oil leak in question...

seriously you wouldnt knock a car back on a rwc for that would you?
its the only leak i can find... its not leaking at the back like they usually do. or at the tensioner

i'll be putting in a full rubber one when i do a cam swap, cbf'd pulling everything off twice.

by **huggiebear** » November 22nd, 2008, 9:39 pm

bloody hell thats nothing... just degrease it and see how it goes over the next few days (run it for a while)

by **EB_Ghia** » November 22nd, 2008, 9:52 pm

huggiebear wrote:bloody hell thats nothing... just degrease it and see how it goes over the next few days (run it for a while)

i know... its the rwc tester that got a hair up his ass about it...
something tells me i need to find a different rwc tester next time
it will be washed a few mins before they see it...

but does anyone know or have used a wade 1673 in a auto without a stall converter?
havent got a reply back from wade cams yet

by **edfairmont4.0** » November 24th, 2008, 9:49 am

man, id jus get the cam hey... ive run MUCH larger cams with stock gears and stalls, they will probably go the same off the line and better once moving. its exagerated alot about it making them pigs...

by **EB_Ghia** » November 24th, 2008, 2:50 pm

edfairmont4.0 wrote:man, id jus get the cam hey... ive run MUCH larger cams with stock gears and stalls, they will probably go the same off the line and better once moving. its exagerated alot about it making them pigs...

ive already got the 1673 mate... its in the ea

ah ok. i'll give it a crack and see what it does. the lpg needs looking at atm so i might aswell make the tune worth the money.

im thinking of slipping it in after ive paid the rego. so they see it stock still and dont question me if that passed rw or not with the extractors or lowered springs in it.

by **EB_Ghia** » November 25th, 2008, 1:23 pm

s_pack89 wrote:got to get new shocks to lower this one. the front shocks out of the ea arent a direct swap abs is a bitch. but hell mine seems to be working atm

huggiebear wrote:pfft just ziptie the ABS cable to the shock

found that my abs cable mounts arent welded to the shocks...
i thought they were in the eb's, so i'll be reusing the ea shocks if there any good still. but the eb ones seem to be in good nick still

by **EB_Ghia** » December 27th, 2008, 10:48 pm

i did the cam swap.... woke it up a fair bit.
it now sounds like its got a severe headcold with the standard headers.. now to find a way to sheild the alarm siren so the extractors can go on it.
well correction it hammers on a rolling start. and according to my litres to the 100 ive only slightly gone up a litre to two to the 100

the idle is a little lumpier. and the only difference is 1st is a little doughey but i can live with that till the manual is fitted
but what stock ford auto isnt doughey in 1st?
doesnt help that the auto needs a service which it isnt getting.. i'd rather put the manual in it

gotta fit the lpg converter and mixer from the ea asap cos one of the coolant lines broke on the brc unit on the eb. damn plastic shit.
converter was leaking anyway

also got to swap the rear rotors and calipers.. rhr has been sticking and has warped the rotor.
was going to fix it xmas eve but was made to drive it in melb to pick up a car my sister bought..

by **pantic** » December 27th, 2008, 10:57 pm

oooerrrr im curious on ya cam i'll need to come up or down and take me for a spin

by **EB_Ghia** » December 27th, 2008, 11:04 pm

pantic wrote:oooerrrr im curious on ya cam i'll need to come up or down and take me for a spin

that wouldnt be too hard mate... got to fix the brakes before it goes too far first though

by **EB_Ghia** » January 1st, 2009, 11:26 pm

another noob question....

since when did e series have rev limiters?
found mine today when i shifted late and wasnt a pleasnt surprise..
the mofo is pretty savage when the limiter came in at 5200.
was on petrol cos i ran out of gas again.. :oops:

i wonder if the limiter works on lpg? :twisted:

but another note..
swapped the gas stuff from the ea over to the eb. the economy has improved now, but that mixer is tuned for the cam with a simular motor though.
well i havent heard it ping so it must be pretty right atm. but the eb i havent bothered advancing the timing yet.

i just have to put the extractors on it with the manual and thermos now...
then lower the mongrel.. the ea was a pita to jack up for clutch swaps lol

by **huggiebear** » January 2nd, 2009, 10:58 am

hmm... rev limiter??? maybe your motor is stuffed... HAHA kidding, yeah the falcons have a 5000-5200 rpm rev limiter, but the tickford ECU's recieved an extra 500rpm before the limiter kicked in. there is an ad about a guy selling the J3 chips which can eliminate the rev limiter, however i dont believe it to be a good idea on a stock motor as it will just end in heartbreak and alot of oil everywhere

by **EB_Ghia** » January 2nd, 2009, 4:13 pm

huggiebear wrote:hmm... rev limiter??? maybe your motor is stuffed... HAHA kidding, yeah the falcons have a 5000-5200 rpm rev limiter, but the tickford ECU's recieved an extra 500rpm before the limiter kicked in. there is an ad about a guy selling the J3 chips which can eliminate the rev limiter, however i dont believe it to be a good idea on a stock motor as it will just end in heartbreak and alot of oil everywhere

ah ok.. wouldnt of thought it would have one though.. oh well
removing the limiter would be a bad idea on a stock eb bottom end. might look at upping it slightly if i ever put a au motor in it.

i wouldnt mind one of those j3 kits..
but i'd like to keep the eb ecu atm. cbf'd getting a ef ecu and smartlock eliminators etc for it to work.

by **private9** » January 2nd, 2009, 6:57 pm

s_pack89 wrote:was on petrol cos i ran out of gas again.. i wonder if the limiter works on lpg?

Nup, won't work on LPG!

by **EB_Ghia** » January 2nd, 2009, 10:01 pm

private9 wrote:
s_pack89 wrote:was on petrol cos i ran out of gas again.. i wonder if the limiter works on lpg?

Nup, won't work on LPG!

cool. cos the ecu doesnt have any control over the lpg kit i presume then?

the lpg kit in mine has a ecu but that does jack now its been bypassed

by **SNR** » January 2nd, 2009, 10:40 pm

The rev limiter is just a fuel cut, only way it would work for LPG is if you installed an aftermarket igition cut limiter (like the Bee*R (http://www.neweraparts.com/Default.aspx?tabid=54&List=0&ProductID=17)the import guys love because they blow flames on the limiter, lol)

by **EB_Ghia** » January 16th, 2009, 9:38 pm

private9 wrote:
s_pack89 wrote:was on petrol cos i ran out of gas again.. i wonder if the limiter works on lpg?

Nup, won't work on LPG!

put some gas in nope it doesnt... doesnt worry me that much lol

in regards to the manual conversion..
what do i need to keep cruise control functional when i do the swap?
all i can think of is a sensor so the cruise doesnt go nuts and accelerate when i change gear on the highway.

by **Dezza** » January 17th, 2009, 10:15 am

If you use a proper manual pedalbox, you can get a clutch switch for the cruise control. With mine, I just have to make sure I don't put the clutch in when cruise is set.

by **huggiebear** » January 17th, 2009, 11:17 am

go to fordmods and look up BenJ's black EB wagon thread, possibly the red EB sedan thread... as he worked out a way of using the vacuum side of the brake sensor on the clutch pedal to set the cruise into "coast" mode so as soon as he lets the clutch back out it resumes back to the set speed. therefore allowing you to downshift up hills without having to reset the cruise

by **psychotic-angel** » January 17th, 2009, 3:10 pm

nice eb how big are the mags on it

by **EB_Ghia** » January 17th, 2009, 11:26 pm

Dezza wrote:If you use a proper manual pedalbox, you can get a clutch switch for the cruise control. With mine, I just have to make sure I don't put the clutch in when cruise is set.

i'll likeley be using the pedal box out of the ea if i cbf'd pulling it out

i want to do it right.. knowing me i'd forget i cant change gears when cruise is on. :oops:

huggiebear wrote:go to fordmods and look up BenJ's black EB wagon thread, possibly the red EB sedan thread... as he worked out a way of using the vacuum side of the brake sensor on the clutch pedal to set the cruise into "coast" mode so as soon as he lets the clutch back out it resumes back to the set speed. therefore allowing you to downshift up hills without having to reset the cruise

ah ok.. will do when i get a chance..

gotta sort a few other things out first though. ie another insurance company.
cgu have told me they wont cover me when the eb is converted. so im looking elsewhere before the conversion happens

by **EB_Ghia** » January 17th, 2009, 11:29 pm

psychotic-angel wrote:nice eb how big are the mags on it

thanks...

there 15's. and in my opinion very very ugly
tempting to fit the stockies off the ea on the eb. so i can remove the ghia rims

by **psychotic-angel** » January 18th, 2009, 9:53 am

cool give em to me ill swap u stockies for them

by **huggiebear** » January 18th, 2009, 10:00 am

paint the centers black and leave the outer edge as it is.. would look like aftermarket rims

by **EB_Ghia** » January 18th, 2009, 4:27 pm

huggiebear wrote:paint the centers black and leave the outer edge as it is.. would look like aftermarket rims

its the centre cap that i dont like..

ive been driving about with them removed atm.

by **EB_Ghia** » January 18th, 2009, 4:30 pm

psychotic-angel wrote:cool give em to me ill swap u stockies for them

i have a set here lol..

im going to use them till the tyres are no good then swap them

by **EB_Ghia** » January 24th, 2009, 5:03 pm

finally fitted the extractors last night....
i had a shitty exhaust leak and thought why replace the cat\manifold flange gasket if i have the extractors?
there not pretty but i cbf'd cleaning them up

all i need to do now is swap the rear sections of the exhaust from the ea and eb. ea has a straight through. eb has a muffler up there still.

didnt have to move the alarm siren like i thought i'd have to. so i left it where it is atm.
there seems to be plenty of space to get away with it anyway.

was

now

i was meant to be doing the rhf wheel bearings. but i have no wheel bearing grease so i cant drive the eb far till i do the bearings.

by **EB_Ghia** » February 11th, 2009, 10:01 pm

huggiebear wrote:go to fordmods and look up BenJ's black EB wagon thread, possibly the red EB sedan thread... as he worked out a way of using the vacuum side of the brake sensor on the clutch pedal to set the cruise into "coast" mode so as soon as he lets the clutch back out it resumes back to the set speed. therefore allowing you to downshift up hills without having to reset the cruise

read through his post and cant find how he has done it..

the red eb he fitted a el cruise module which i cbf'd doing. which is quite different to mine also

btw on other junk...
finally fitted the thermos from the ea. viscous fan let go lol
huge improvement now between both types.

dirt roads ftl... i'll wash the car and 2 days later its just as filthy again

by **private9** » February 14th, 2009, 9:05 am

I'd put a heat shield back over those extractors, or move the siren! I've had a few melt that way.

by **EB_Ghia** » February 16th, 2009, 10:54 pm

private9 wrote:I'd put a heat shield back over those extractors, or move the siren! I've had a few melt that way.

im going to be making a sheild for the siren..
or i'll shift it when im attacking the wiring for the manual conversion

but the car isnt being driven far atm. got warned by the local cop if he saw the ghia on the road with the bald tyres again he's going to canary the car. (its very obvious, camber wear sucks)
havent had the $$ so it hasnt moved past the end of the street.
if need be i'll just swap the rims with the ute if i wanted to drive the ghia badly enough

on other news. im pulling the t5 out of the ea this week and slipping at least the mechanical side of the conversion into the eb.
i have to move some wiring cos some dipshit put the cruise vac line, alarm, lpg looms through the damn clutch cable hole!

by **EB_Ghia** » February 22nd, 2009, 3:42 pm

thought i'd update the thread....
did the manual conversion to the eb using the bits from the written off ea i have.
got everything out of the ea, then started pulling the eb to bits lol. found what the odd thump was in the car. 2 of the uni joint bolts were loose!

got the auto out to find that both adjusters were pretty much as far as they could go so it was borderline rooted anyway. me treating it badly wouldnt of helped it any either.
got everything out... then the fun of the manual conversion begun.

somehow i cross threaded one of the pressure plate bolts so that was fun fixing that. got everything back in to find that the starter motor had just chosen to die. i had a spare anyway.
and one thing i noticed, but rectified... the eb didnt have a earth lead from the body to the gearbox on it at all. ive fitted one now though
but the rest of fitting the manual up was fairly straight forward..
i used the eb tailshaft cos i cbf'd swapping the rear uni. and the eb one is the same length anyway

pedal boxes... i seriously hope the dash doesnt have to come off for a fair while.
cos the looms have been modified for the alarm i couldnt remove the dash..
had to roll the mongrel forward...
then find i hadnt located the bottom bolts in the pedal box so off came the dash again to fix that.

i modified the auto loom to work with the lack of a neutral switch. and so i have reverse lights still.
took it for a road test and it drives really well. i thought the box was semi rooted but it isnt as noisy anymore. so the ea motor must have some serious end float happening

but ive got to fix a few teething problems now :evil:

cos i fitted the ea computer, it seems to be running like a dog (rich as ****) so ive got to put the eb comp back in and play with the resistors to get around it i suppose.
hunts, misses (both fuels) and blows petrol smoke when on petrol with the ea ecu, but runs sweet with the eb ecu so there must be something different enough to be a problem between both ecu's

and extend the alarm siren wiring too

now some piccys

nothing out of the ordinary.. wasnt too bad for the 9 thou it had been in there with the thrashing it got and me teaching my sister to drive manual lol

i'd only done 9 thou with the clutch in the ea so it was still good.

by **EB_Ghia** » February 22nd, 2009, 10:22 pm

s_pack89 wrote:but ive got to fix a few teething problems now
cos i fitted the ea computer, it seems to be running like a dog (rich as ****) so ive got to put the eb comp back in and play with the resistors to get around it i suppose.
hunts, misses (both fuels) and blows petrol smoke when on petrol with the ea ecu, but runs sweet with the eb ecu so there must be something different enough to be a problem between both ecu's

just a dumb question...
what does the car do if it goes into lhm?
iirc it restricts the gears but that would be bypassed anyway.or would it just lower the rev limiter?

being pre smartlock i mightn't actually lhm built in?

by **EB_Ghia** » April 1st, 2009, 10:06 pm

private9 wrote:I'd put a heat shield back over those extractors, or move the siren! I've had a few melt that way.

i ended up moving the siren and extending the wiring to suit.... its where it cant get heat damaged anymore now.

but on another note,
the eb has spat the headgasket... well starting to (on the way back from sydney

)
dont have the stains down the block but i do have oil getting into the coolant and its loosing coolant. luckily it isnt leaking coolant into the sump thankfully.
so im just going to do the headgasket now before it gets worse and makes a bigger mess.

dad reckons im better off fitting a ef head to the motor but i cant remember if the eb head was the better one against the ef ones??
im just tempted to just get mine surfaced and checked. and slip it back on with a au gasket.

cbf'd fitting a au motor to the eb. my bottom end is noise free and seems to be working well

by **EB_Ghia** » April 6th, 2009, 6:09 pm

just a quick question....
does anyone have the part no for the au mls gasket somewhere? (headgasket)

or is it the same as the 0.8mm shim?
part no is BR520S08

i got one of them and its been suggested to fit this on the bottom and fit a headgasket on the top before refitting the head?

im not too sure really.
cos atm im just getting the bits together till i have the time to rip the head off the eb and send it off to get machined and crack tested etc..

by **EB_Ghia** » April 30th, 2009, 9:45 pm

ok an update on this pos..
as some of you know i bought kyles xr head off him cos my car had spat the h\g on the way back from sydney.

i finally got it checked out with new valve stem seals fitted at the same time.
got the head decked. it was slightly warped at the front of the head
crack test done
vac test done...

so essentally its good to go.
all ive got to do is get the gasket kit and a set of headbolts.
i wouldnt mind getting a au mls gasket. but **** paying 150 for it. atm its likeley i'll just use another graphite gasket so i can get it fixed sooner..

pics tomorrow cos i cant find the camera battery and my phone is only a povo phone which doesnt take pics
so i'll just post a few old ones before i had it cleaned up

by **huggiebear** » April 30th, 2009, 10:26 pm

au gaskets are only $66 from ford

by **EB_Ghia** » April 30th, 2009, 10:33 pm

huggiebear wrote:au gaskets are only $66 from ford

ah ok.. i'll have to go and see if i can get it from the ford dealer in ballarat or geelong then

i'd been quoted the 150 from bursons.

by **EB_Ghia** » May 7th, 2009, 7:47 pm

what are the benefits of using the au mls h\g over the graphite type?

ive got to do the head swap on the eb and not sure on which one.
i know using the au one the compression will raise slightly. but being on lpg that doesnt concern me.

i can get the au mls for 90 from ford...
but also ive got to fit the xh snorkle after the head has been done

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