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Postby big-fella » January 31st, 2009, 12:41 pm

I have the option in the next week or so to go 3.9's. I have the cash but I am trying to decide what I should go..

The guys building the diff said:

$2200 for the kaaz, 3.9's, oil. install etc etc. Drive in Drive out for 2200

or

$1600 drive in drive out for a real tight LSD..

Both of those would be a far better option to my current 3.08ss.. But i find it hard to decide what to do. The LSD will eventually wear it out after what I want to do with it, but the Kaaz will cope it fine.

I have been told in general road use the kaaz makes a LOT of noise and clunks and cracks around corners. Its meant to sound like this apparently but i dont know?

What would be the best option for these prices? Either rebuild the LSD on a regular basis. Or put of with constant noise and possible cop bait?

Any ideas on what would be best?
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby private9 » January 31st, 2009, 12:59 pm

If the difference is only $600 I know which way I'd be going!

Then again, I'd just be banging in cheap ass s/h LSD's as they wear out.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby misk » January 31st, 2009, 12:59 pm

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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » January 31st, 2009, 1:04 pm

Dad had a spool in his Mustang and it started ripping the car apart. I dont really wanna attract the cops too much either.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby BI6TIM » January 31st, 2009, 1:48 pm

KAAZ without question!!!

I have one and the rumours you've heard about them making lots of noise is rubbish. You will not be disappointed going with the KAAZ, best diff ever!
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Rollin » January 31st, 2009, 2:31 pm

Kaaz FTMFW.

Borgy LSDs are fucking gay for everything except towing small boats and accellerating in a straight line.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » January 31st, 2009, 3:02 pm

So it doesn't sound as bad as the rumors? Does yours make much noise Tim?

I was basically told by the shop that the LSD will get ripped apart after a decent skid, or enough hard work.. I dont want that..
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby EF ECTIV » January 31st, 2009, 3:58 pm

+1 kaaz

The kaaz is actually pretty quiet..... no clicking or anything shit like that, Ive had mine for
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LSX90 does the job perfectly, dont bother with their expensive kaaz oil....
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby BI6TIM » January 31st, 2009, 4:22 pm

big-fella wrote:Does yours make much noise Tim?

I've only every heard it make a noise once and that was once when I negotiated my driveway all wrong, which has only ever happened once.

They are not a noisy diff.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » January 31st, 2009, 4:24 pm

Thats awesome. I will give them a call 8am Monday and book it in. So far everyone that has actually used a kaaz i have spoken too has been happy.

How much is the kaaz oil? I got told every 3500km to change it? Also is there some sort of drail plug for the diff?
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby EF ECTIV » February 1st, 2009, 11:51 am

kaaz oil costs about 100bucks whereas the LSX90 only costs about 30..... yep 3500 sounds about
right, there's a drain plug for the diff easy enough to change the fluid.....
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Kilma » February 1st, 2009, 12:29 pm

Kaaz = awesome and well worth it.

Word of advice, pay the workshop to bed it in for you as well. There isn't anything fun about low speed figure 8s.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby rab » February 1st, 2009, 12:50 pm

is this cheap ? or are you better getting it fitted at a diff shop ? kaaz 1500 bucks ? thought it might be of interest..

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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby EF ECTIV » February 1st, 2009, 6:20 pm

Kilma wrote:Kaaz = awesome and well worth it.
Word of advice, pay the workshop to bed it in for you as well. There isn't anything fun about low speed figure 8s.


good point damon, felt like shit after all those turns.... :roll:
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » February 1st, 2009, 7:56 pm

This kaaz is going to cost around 1200. It has done about 300km and they guy didn't like it. That's what got me worried!

They guys missus said it made to much noise and didnt want it. He was ok with it but his missus hated it. Made me worried it would be noisy as feck!
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » April 5th, 2009, 7:34 pm

Well kaaz is in. Just doing the 800km run in.. Going to take a while as I cant do over 80km/h.

Its pretty noisy and tight as **** atm, but was told it might loosen up a bit.

I will keep you posted with how it goes. I cant wait to finish the run and and fry the 17's so I can get new rims..
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Bipolar » April 5th, 2009, 10:04 pm

Are you sure it's a Kaaz? Have you seen the centre yourself?
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » April 6th, 2009, 9:17 am

I did a while ago when it was in the workshop. It was second hand out of a commodore. His wife hated the noise it makes on tight turns.

What would you suggest it is?
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby OED666 » April 6th, 2009, 12:52 pm

WTF!!! $1600 for a diff with an LSD...

Kaaz for sure, as its no comparison against an LSD. LSD's are gay like aids, only every time you peg leg, you get another dose of aids!
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby e series falcon » April 6th, 2009, 12:54 pm

haha yeh and i would no how a f**k lsd feels like it sux :banghead:
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Bipolar » April 6th, 2009, 1:18 pm

big-fella wrote:I did a while ago when it was in the workshop. It was second hand out of a commodore. His wife hated the noise it makes on tight turns.

What would you suggest it is?

No one seems to know anything about a noisy Kaaz, so it sounds more like you've got some type of well fitted locker if it's not noisy all the time.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » April 6th, 2009, 3:35 pm

Just on tight corners. Like full lock and going slow.

The faster I go I don't hear anything, and regular corners I don't hear anything.

I will be getting pictures of it tomorrow so I can show you? Let me know what it really is lol
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Steady » April 6th, 2009, 6:09 pm

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big-fella wrote:I did a while ago when it was in the workshop. It was second hand out of a commodore. His wife hated the noise it makes on tight turns.

What would you suggest it is?

No one seems to know anything about a noisy Kaaz, so it sounds more like you've got some type of well fitted locker if it's not noisy all the time.

I've heard heaps of shit about the plates being noisy in them, alot of people reckon it's due to poor run in.
Apprently you can also set the plates up differently do give different preload which can quieten them up. Fukked if I know, but it's definately not the first I've heard of a KAAZ being noisy in a BW diff.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Rollin » April 6th, 2009, 7:06 pm

I put a second hand Kazz diff in my brothers R32 recently (whole diff, not center swap) and goddamn the thing is loud. Lots louder than even the 4wd systems lockers. I think it's preloaded up the wazoo and maybe also not run in properly, it's bloody tight too. Fun but :D
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » April 6th, 2009, 9:20 pm

I have followed all the run in procedures correctly, but that's not too say the other guy that had it followed them.

Its actually pretty quite now. You have to do a 0km full lock turn to make it noisy.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby 67rce » April 6th, 2009, 9:50 pm

Rollin wrote:I put a second hand Kazz diff in my brothers R32 recently (whole diff, not center swap) and goddamn the thing is loud. Lots louder than even the 4wd systems lockers. I think it's preloaded up the wazoo and maybe also not run in properly, it's bloody tight too. Fun but :D


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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Rollin » April 6th, 2009, 11:32 pm

Yep haha.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » April 7th, 2009, 12:21 pm

lol nice.

Mine sounds similar to a seal on full lock, and has a small whine at 60-70km. Other then that its fine... :shock:

I cant wait to do 800km so I can see how they really handle.. Only 650 to go..
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby big-fella » June 16th, 2010, 9:57 am

Digging this old thread up.

Is the LSX 90 still the best/cheapest diff oil for the KAAZ centre?

Also is it possible to get KAAZ oil overnight?
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby BI6TIM » June 16th, 2010, 12:37 pm

I use the Penrite limslip 140 heavy duty stuff with my KAAZ. I've have 3 different cars with KAAZ now and none of them have been noisier than the lokka I had in the falcon.
The one I've got in the skyline now is probably the noisiest one I've owned but only on real tight turns in carparks etc. Still nothing on the noises and bullshit that I used to get with the lokka.

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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Rollin » June 16th, 2010, 12:39 pm

Not sure about the oil for a Kaaz, but funnily enough I did change the oil in my brothers R32 diff the other week. It's apparently actually a Nizmo 2 way rather than a Kaaz, but we got some LS90 from repco for it and it's silent now :cool: but still kicks 2 wheels whenever it's asked to.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby Bipolar » June 16th, 2010, 1:38 pm

The guys I bought mine off recommended SAF-XA. Despite everything on the internet saying not to use synthetic oil, they recommend this one to all their customers and don't get complaints coming back to them. They've been using in their racecars' Kaazs for years. I ran mine in well over what's specified, changed the oil when it was due and it makes no noise. And all that helps me draw 11s black stuff.
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Re: Kaaz vs LSD

Postby EF ECTIV » June 16th, 2010, 8:23 pm

big-fella wrote:Digging this old thread up.

Is the LSX 90 still the best/cheapest diff oil for the KAAZ centre?

Also is it possible to get KAAZ oil overnight?


After looking at a few 'drifting' threads I noticed LSX90 always kept popping up... So that's what Ive always
used, not problems here.... Its also much cheaper than the KAAZ 'approved' oil....
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