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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby FordFairmont » October 2nd, 2009, 7:47 pm

fook me why did i just click on & read this thread

props to the mad pro'fessors who posted their intricate theories and gave the thread some BEEF
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby mad_keen » October 2nd, 2009, 8:41 pm

lol i was toldd the other day by this dude that the world was gunna end on a certain date in 2012 because it sed so on this calender that had all these events on it and its been right so far... but im pretty sure thats the storyline of the movie "the knowing".

ive seen on tv that the sun has these explosion things and one day i dont rememebr wen its gunna hav a massive one and its gunna burn half of the earths atmosphere or sumfin :geek:
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 6th, 2009, 1:30 pm

there is an interesting point to be considered which has no scientific backing what so ever but legends do support it.
if humans have been around 200 thousand years in their present form, that is still enough time for them to go from zero to present day technology 8 times over.
It is highly likely we have formed levels of technology close to todays, but been wiped out several times before.
even in recorded history, there has been 5 such events which caused world wide devistation.
to think our technology will save use from the power of the earth and milky way is like saying the tick is more powerful than the dog it feeds on.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby mad_keen » October 6th, 2009, 4:46 pm

thats a little too intense for mee :scratch: but ok :thumbsup:
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby rhys » October 6th, 2009, 4:49 pm

Since when have we believed legends over scientific support though?

The fact that legends support it makes no difference, when your 5 yrs old legends support santa and the easter bunny but logic eventually prevails over those.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Frost » October 6th, 2009, 5:42 pm

I was something on History channel, and shit like this, and temperatures and shit happened years ago, its earth going through a reset cycle, everything happens for a reason.

And I Lauf at Kester I didnt think Sheep counted as Females? Or the "Female"s that u claim to be "Females: ;)
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 6th, 2009, 5:42 pm

actually the legend of atlantis is believed, and millions has been spent searching for it.
the legend of the amazons is believed to have existed.
during periods of total devistation which took in many cases centuries, written word wasnt continued.
in these periods, the only way history was passed down was by word of mouth.
this is how the legends start.
when there is no written evidence of a story told from generation to generation, it is legend.
this does not mean it wasnt based on fact.
Once something is discovered which backs up the legend, it becomes fact.
we believe in evolution yet have only a hand full of bones from several continents to show evidence.
by the way, easter bunny isnt legend and santa was based on a real person in history.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby [Sterling] » October 6th, 2009, 5:51 pm

Frost wrote:I was something on History channel, and shit like this, and temperatures and shit happened years ago, its earth going through a reset cycle, everything happens for a reason.

And I Lauf at Kester I didnt think Sheep counted as Females? Or the "Female"s that u claim to be "Females: ;)

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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby rhys » October 6th, 2009, 10:13 pm

vulpine wrote:.
we believe in evolution yet have only a hand full of bones from several continents to show evidence.


Are you a hard line creation bible basher? cos if your one of those people who spouts bible versus until the evidence goes away ill bombard you with evidence after which you would have to be god himself to deny.

Its very untrue to say a hand full of bones. And insulting to evolutionary biologists around the world.

p.s if this has been covered earlier in this thread sorry i havent read it alll but i know you have been very active vulpine.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Frost » October 7th, 2009, 6:49 am

[Sterling] wrote:
Frost wrote:I was something on History channel, and shit like this, and temperatures and shit happened years ago, its earth going through a reset cycle, everything happens for a reason.

And I Lauf at Kester I didnt think Sheep counted as Females? Or the "Female"s that u claim to be "Females: ;)

says the only virgin in bendigo.


So a Virgin from bendigo is saying that you cant count the females you have been with as females?
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 7th, 2009, 11:47 am

rhys375 wrote:
vulpine wrote:.
we believe in evolution yet have only a hand full of bones from several continents to show evidence.


Are you a hard line creation bible basher? cos if your one of those people who spouts bible versus until the evidence goes away ill bombard you with evidence after which you would have to be god himself to deny.

Its very untrue to say a hand full of bones. And insulting to evolutionary biologists around the world.

p.s if this has been covered earlier in this thread sorry i havent read it alll but i know you have been very active vulpine.


lol, read it slack arse.
i dont take sides on either evolution or creationism.
as i have stated before.... there is an element of truth in all religion and science.
As for insulting the evolutionary biologists, they do quite well at that on their own.
the missing link is now thought to be a mutation and not a link at all.
evolution is a theory, not a fact.
if people were to look at Mitochondrial Eve instead of reading things literally, you would see both religion and evolution can co exist without contradiction.
this year, the catholic pope held such a gathering of both sides to seek a common ground.
its hard to take the comments of people seriously when the say things like.... "i didnt read the conversation but i know better"..... ignorance is a dangerous thing.
ive looked into the koran, bible, hopi, aztec, sumarian, cherokee, buddhism, evolutionary theory including three modern variations on charles darwins original theory, etc. and have judged none to be right or wrong. infact most of them are in total agreement.
if you were to cross reference them, you would find buddhism is much the same as the christian beliefs without the threat of hell if you fall down.
the christians, muslims, and jews all believe in the same god, however the christians believe christ is the true son of god even though christ said not to worship him and that we were all the son of god.
the koran sees christ as a prophet, and moses as equally significant.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 7th, 2009, 11:59 am

if you look at cherokee beliefs,
they have a creator, and there is stories of a man who visited them long before settlement.
links can be made between sumarian and aztec beliefs, and many of characters in their stories have similar names and symbolism.
i guess what im trying to say is, the origin of christian, jew, muslim, hopi, cherokee, aztec, myan belief can arguably be traced back to one source.
the original religion of the sumarians.
science may act as the antagonist in many cases, but without two sides to an argument, we lose site of truth.
religion keeps science honest, science keeps religion focused.
ying and yang.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 7th, 2009, 12:02 pm

rhys375 wrote:
vulpine wrote:.
we believe in evolution yet have only a hand full of bones from several continents to show evidence.




p.s if this has been covered earlier in this thread sorry i havent read it alll but i know you have been very active vulpine.



that really is an ignorant fools statement.
what idiot states such a strong position without knowing the facts.
saying you are sorry in advance for being ignorant due to lack of effort is even worse.

i really dont give a crap if the world is ending in 3 years or 200.
if you believe evolution theory, we are at the start of the next evolutionary climate adaptation.
if you believe in christian religion, we are close to the second coming.... make of that what you will.
if you believe in the koran, we are at the time of tribulation.
if you believe in cherokee, hoppi belief, we are at the time of assension.
if you believe the scientists, we are about to go into a climate shift, followed by drought, then an ice age, and come out the other end about 2050 if we are lucky, or 2200 if we arent lucky.
zodiac we are at the age of aquarius.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby NUT347 » October 7th, 2009, 12:33 pm

Vulpine, your a **** wit. Everyone knows that. Stop analising shit. Your a dick. Na engine are different to boosted ones. Your a fat nerd. **** sake.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 7th, 2009, 1:26 pm

nut, you have to be one of the most ignorant in this forum.
keep up the good work, now go blow another engine up, its what you do best.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby EFFalcon » October 7th, 2009, 1:31 pm

this thread makes for good reading, fact or not its great :write:
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Gozza » October 7th, 2009, 1:34 pm

I enjoy reading Vulpine's posts. The thing is he has probably researched what he has talked about. If your ever in Brisbane let me know. Would be good to drink beer and discuss
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby NUT347 » October 7th, 2009, 3:07 pm

vulpine wrote:nut, you have to be one of the most ignorant in this forum.
keep up the good work, now go blow another engine up, its what you do best.
:thumbsup:


lol is that all you got? Oh noes my engines blow up!!

The problem I have with you is that you analyse the **** outer everything. Like that shit with the boosted engines have to make a certian amount of power n/a if they make a certian amount boosted. It just proves you spend more time reading forums and batting off over scientists then u do enjoying your fucken life.

Wait I know, maybe my motors blow up because I actually drive my car instead of making love to scientists.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 7th, 2009, 3:25 pm

since when does driving a car count as a valid reason for it to blow up.
since when does making love to a woman (scientist or not) count less as "living" than "driving your car"....dude, ride a bicycle more and get a grip.
actually my ex gf was an environmental biologist and my current gf has a science degree also, so you have a point there.

the only reason i am analysing the **** out of the forum is because i have a project car I am building and I am trying to milk every last kW out of the sucker.
I need information to be detailed, accurate and not just blah blah add more boost.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Steady » October 7th, 2009, 6:11 pm

i don't normally have much time for vulpines babble either, but in this thread he's not forcing an opinion, which is more then you can say for alot of conspiracy theorists ("are you a sheep, didn't you see this website that was written by some guy that has written proof that he knew someone that was an MKULTRA test subject who knew another guy who met an alien who says that vaccinations caused 9/11").
i haven't heard some of these views before, so its good to have a read through.
so AAA+ thread, interesting stuff, never hurts to look at things from a differing viewpoint.

being an aquarian, i for one believe it is the age of aquarius.
just waiting on a container of SIG551s to arrive so we can get shit cracking.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby TUFED6 » October 7th, 2009, 6:24 pm

I too often think it would be awesome to start a religious sect. On one hand its a tax haven and on the other you get to smash virgin box.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Dansedgli » October 7th, 2009, 8:14 pm

Im not emo or anything but I reckon it would be sick if the world ended in a massive ball of fire. I wouldnt be able to turn away from news.com for hours.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby bushman » October 7th, 2009, 9:22 pm

In the words of Billy Connelly,
Cannabilisms the answer.
The hungry can eat the criminals, theres a problem solved.
The homeless can eat the hungry, theres another problem solved.
and then the homeless can live in the prisons, another problem solved.
You can eat someone i dont like, i can eat someone you don't like, Where's the Fucking problem?

He said that on stage, and i'll admit its quite tongue in cheek and funny for this thread but anyway.

It is quite interesting. And intrigueing, and also a good topic to have over a few beers.
Vulpine, there is a thread on FM in the off topic section titled Do you believe in religion, god and hell. etc you get the picture you may find it highly interesting mate have fun reading it all though its quite a long thread.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 9:38 am

on a different topic I usually attack the americans about their international politics on a UN forum but since bush left, there hasnt been much to complain about, other than the use of drone bombers in pakistan. oh and obama getting the nobel peace prize.....(hopefully for something he did before he bombed pakistan.)
conspiracy is a word in the english language, it is there not because they dont exist but because they do exist.
Im not talking about joe blow down the street and his brother mack in a conspiracy to get frank McDoogle fired from his job.
Im talking about the world political scene, family interests in the billions of dollars, rights to oil reserves, manipulation of the unions, cold war, fuel prices etc.
There are well known historic conspiracies which are often overlooked.
When a very large amount is to be gained by more than one person if a specific outcome occurs, you will find more often than not... infact almost always....those people, organisations, countries which stand to gain the most, will conspire to make it so.
My ex UN friend was allowed to talk about many topics but there was one he was not allowed to discuss.
This was the USA patriot missile system. about two years before they went ahead with recruiting nations all around the world to use it as the "son of starwars".
Starwars was the original sat version of the anti missile global defence system, which was originally put forward in the 80s.
The point I made which he abruptly told me to shut up about was simple.
during desert storm, the company producing the patriot missile claimed 5 successful missile intercepts.
in fact there were none, only 2 indirect malfunctions to the missiles caused from the patriot sending them off target.
the others were malfunctioning iraq missiles.
in the later iraq war however, the patriots did manage to shoot down atleast two allied planes by accident.
This son of starwars project was a conspiracy between specific USA government officials and agencies and private military contractors.
since then the patriot has been deployed in the USA, Patriot is in service in Egypt, Germany, Greece, Israel, Japan, Kuwait, the Netherlands, Saudi Arabia and Taiwan.
america isnt alone in these conspiracies, england and france are quite well known in the field of subdifuge.
Just ask egypt about the suez, south america about coffee, banana plantation, afghan opium, oil for wheat, wool trade with iraq, arms deals, oil pipe lines in afghanistan, where kiwait oil comes from, world banks etc.
The media is a conspiracy story. In australia, america and england, almost all news is controlled by murdock and murdock has till recently done what ever the usa republican,au lib, UK lab parties wanted and in return, those governments changed laws relating to media ownership and monopoly regulations. murdocks son was even on the staff of the bush jnr presidential re-election champaign... probably why we hear very little about bush and the list of war crimes against him and his friends.
prime minister Silvio BERLUSCONI of italy controlled over 90% of the media and has been in power since 1994..... although jail looks like his new job.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby TUFED6 » October 8th, 2009, 9:49 am

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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Commando » October 8th, 2009, 10:01 am

Question: if your UN friend told you, in discussion, NOT to discuss the US Patriot missiles, why are you doing it here?
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 10:14 am

TUFED6 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_grove

I know of quite a few places around the world which are like this.
There is a cattle property up here in the top end which has a resort built on it purely for a small group of very wealthy people to go to and talk deals.
no roads, fly in, fly out.
The need for such places is quite obvious.
if you have so much to lose by being discovered, yet so much to gain by making a deal, you will pay any price to keep it undisclosed.
Its a different world for the ultra wealthy.
A company which ive found comes up more than any is Carlyle group.
The board consists of ex prime ministers, presidents, and they even hired ex president bush snr as their representative to south korea.
Asama bin laden is also part of the group.
If you look deeply into this company, many of the sums dont add up.
I wouldnt look too deeply however, this is one company with teeth lol.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 10:18 am

Commando wrote:Question: if your UN friend told you, in discussion, NOT to discuss the US Patriot missiles, why are you doing it here?

Basically he was not allowed to discuss the patriot system or have it discussed around him.
I am civilian and not obligated to shut my yap when i find something out.
Also, the system is now installed, so the cat is out of the bag so to speak.
its hard to explain how i knew about the patriot system as while i was doing my research, the history of the patriot missile was being re written.
During the falklins, the sea harrier jump jet was used, the jet was a total failure, with an estimated 400% casuality rate over if they had used other planes they had available.
the planes were slower, required more fuel, shorter range, and basically sucked.
if you try to go back and research them now, you find history now says they were a complete success.
collins class submarines are said to be a total jump heap yet when they went up against the americans in tactical war games here in the top end, they won.
america then proceeded to try and sell us their technology anyway.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 10:20 am

This was way back around 2001 by the way.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Commando » October 8th, 2009, 10:30 am

Being civilian doesn't mean immunity from said conspiritors or interested parties though if you don't "shut your yap". For example, this Carlyle group you speak of. You say their board consists of powerful political entities, and then you state this:

"If you look deeply into this company, many of the sums dont add up."

And then include this:

"I wouldnt look too deeply however, this is one company with teeth"

Is this a Frost-esque "I'm in the know" post? A bait post to get readers of this thread to investigate for themselves? Or merely shortening the lifespan of the springs in your keyboard keys?
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 10:50 am

I havent said anything on here which puts me at any risk.
There is a lot of things I wont discuss, which i almost did a minute ago but deleted before i hit submit lol.
just saying carlyles name doesnt put you at risk (although it may flag), when you expose something of the deals currently being done, that puts you at risk.
its a bit like a tooth ache. Is the pain worth the dentist bill to fix it. if the pain goes away, do you still pull the tooth.
Ive been mildly stung in the past, usually you get plenty of warning, otherwise reporters would be dieing like flies instead of living on a gravy boat.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Commando » October 8th, 2009, 10:58 am

Well I guess that raises this question: Is it worth raising these issues with everyday plebs who are otherwise blissfully unaware and unaffected by these goings on?

Don't get me wrong, sharing knowledge is good, as is the meandering of this thread topic.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 11:00 am

there is a lot of total horse crap conspiracy theories.
there is a lot of total nut cases.
Its pretty easy to know a real one from a fake.
Firstly, a real one doesnt need you to fudge the figures to get it to fit. it is what it is.
if you simply research all the angles, you will find they all fit without changing a thing.
If it doesnt fit, it probably isnt anything to do with it.
Im not into stories like "bush was behind 9/11", or even the "israel sunk the usa battle ship and made it look like egypt"
actually i knew someone who was on that battle ship but thats a long story still under the secrets act and one which atleast two countries definitely dont want discussed lol.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 11:17 am

Its a bit like when a crime happens in a slum area.
no one saw it when the police ask but second they go, they all gossip about what happened.
If they tell the police, they end up having a spotlight put on them.
Also, its only when the general public becomes aware of the big picture that we are able to stop it.
about 6 years ago i stopped researching political crap seriously as i found out one very sad point.
we have been living under the rule of the dark side for over 70 years.
good lost, bad won.
this last century is the darkest in our history.
what is to come is as a direct result of this.
i honestly believe there are things we shouldnt know, things which when we do find them out, we spend the rest of our lives trying to forget.
"everyday plebs who are otherwise blissfully unaware and unaffected by these goings on" simply need to be aware that they are affected.
wars, wages, education, health, housing are all affected.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 11:18 am

reminds me of the matrix again.
which pill do you want
i figured the end of the world 2012 topic was beaten to a pulp, so thought id shoot off left field for a bit with conspiracy theory lol.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby mad_keen » October 8th, 2009, 11:31 am

theres a little island up here that has security all around it on the beach. no idea wat its for.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 11:38 am

am sure it would be easy to find out.
google earth it for starters lol, your own personal spy in the sky.
if you give me the gps co ordinates off google, ill see what i can find hehe.
gives me something to do.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby Gozza » October 8th, 2009, 11:43 am

what's the place in the middle of Australia that has American Power cables and shit. I can't recall the name obviously. big ass fence. no civilian activity
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby mad_keen » October 8th, 2009, 11:45 am

vulpine wrote:am sure it would be easy to find out.
google earth it for starters lol, your own personal spy in the sky.
if you give me the gps co ordinates off google, ill see what i can find hehe.
gives me something to do.


ive never been there but my mate sed he's went past it in the boatt. i wanna go hav a look around there one day tho. ill try find out more about it.
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Re: Is the world going to end 2012

Postby vulpine » October 8th, 2009, 12:24 pm

Gozza wrote:what's the place in the middle of Australia that has American Power cables and shit. I can't recall the name obviously. big ass fence. no civilian activity

there are three in central australia.
pine gap
jingali
and a third.
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