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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby Steady » February 11th, 2010, 12:00 pm

personal loan + no early repayment fee and just smash it.
not like you are getting hit hard by depreciation, an AU has already done the bulk of it by far.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby private9 » February 11th, 2010, 12:09 pm

ClassicAU wrote:hahaha, sorry dude. Yeah, I didnt think you'd go for it anyway! :P

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What about a decent AU2/3 XR8 220 manual? They sound good, drive well and can get 200-220rwkw with bolt ons pretty easily.


That is exactly what I want, but unfortunately don't have 10-15k burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I can be buggered if I am going to get a loan/finance for an AU. If I do loose patience and do that, it will be a manual Boss machine. At least make it worth the arse raping I will get from interest.

Have you driven anything with a Boss? I've driven a few auto/manual 260's and 290's and they're not particularly inspiring.

My cousin has a BF2 Pursuit 290 manual, and even with extractors, exhaust and a tune, the thing's a god damn slug.
Steady wrote:personal loan + no early repayment fee and just smash it.
not like you are getting hit hard by depreciation, an AU has already done the bulk of it by far.

As Steady said!
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby ClassicAU » February 11th, 2010, 12:15 pm

LOL, why would I buy a car just to smash it! If I wanted to do that, I would just buy a $500 EB instead!

I think I just need to stop being so bored and forget about it for a while. I should really be focused on saving for a house, not wasting more money on cars. A loan for a car would pretty much destroy any chance I have at a house anyway.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby private9 » February 11th, 2010, 12:17 pm

ClassicAU wrote:LOL, why would I buy a car just to smash it! If I wanted to do that, I would just buy a $500 EB instead!

I think I just need to stop being so bored and forget about it for a while. I should really be focused on saving for a house, not wasting more money on cars. A loan for a car would pretty much destroy any chance I have at a house anyway.

Smash it as in pay the loan off quickly :?
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby Steady » February 11th, 2010, 12:22 pm

smash the loan man, as in pay it off quick :lol:
i know i don't speaks proppa but i fort that was rekanised stralya wide?

paid off loans = good credit rating = bank loves you come house loan time.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby ClassicAU » February 11th, 2010, 1:29 pm

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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby bentls » February 13th, 2010, 6:33 am

ls1's are sick and anyone who argues otherwise is retarted...
sound better than any efi ford motor for same mods etc
perform better than any ford efi same mods for mods etc
far cheaper if u break one they are like asshoels these days
and the oil issue isnt even an issue id worry about.. chev have an oil consumption threshold they state the motor should use... holden changed the number but not the motor it just cos they wanted the public to think they were better then they were and chev told them to stfu...

other than that you will have the broken ones out there same as any other brand that chew oil like its goin out of fashion...
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby EBOOST » February 13th, 2010, 2:34 pm

sounding better im not sure about i dont really like the sound of ls1's.
the rest i agree with tho.
on idle they sound tuff as with cams and stuff but when going im not sure ive heard a couple of good ones but the majority i recon sound crap.
but each to there own.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby bentls » February 13th, 2010, 2:41 pm

intake noise an stuff ... boss motors and wheezers majority sound shit...
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby EBOOST » February 13th, 2010, 3:04 pm

yeah not being biased but i think my au sounded good and i like my brothers au3 xr but yeah thats me.
spose some people like different sounds ive only heard 1 good ls1 thats a guy i went to tafe with he drifts it now type in drift8 on youtube he is a pretty good driver.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine

Postby ClassicAU » February 15th, 2010, 9:24 am

I'm with Josh, AUII/III 220 > LS1 of same era. The Holdens are more expencive for the same year, and I wouldnt touch anything earlier than VXII. I think a windsor can sound pretty tough if done right. That and I think the AU is a far superior car than VX anyway.
Not going to happen for at least 6 months anyway, got a few other things happening this year. Mainly, saving for my trip to the good old U S of A for Christmas/New Years!

Oh, on another note, I ordered a J3 from Jason yesterday. Hopefully he can organise something for me this week, I am keen to see how much of a difference it will make to my economy. I am starting to do a lot more freeway driving lately, and will most likely be moving over to the west saayyeedd later this year. So my daily commute to work will be mostly freeway. Might work, might not, worth a try anyway.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby ClassicAU » February 22nd, 2010, 9:22 am

Got the J3 from Jason last week, thanks heaps mate! Managed to chuck it on yesterday afternoon, after filling the car up again with 98. Now is the big test to see how much of a difference the J3 will make economy wise. I must say, I am did not notice any immediate difference in the way the car drives. I hope I installed it correctly, but it’s on there and the car feels normal. I chucked it on at my mates place in Werribee, so it’s already got a trip back to Resa on the freeway under its belt. I must say, that was 50-odd kms and the needle barely moved! So now we will see how it goes with the daily grind.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby ClassicAU » March 9th, 2010, 9:30 am

Ok, so had a few dramas with installing the J3 chip onto my ECU. Unfortunately I have a severe lack of instruction following skills! In the end I believe I have it installed correctly, after taking the bloody ECU in and out like 4 times!
Anyway, I have just done a full tank of premium after the last attempt at installing the J3, and have done 520kms with the needle now in the red. I think it’s a slight improvement, but not as much as I was going for. I am hoping it’s because the ECU has been off a few times, and it’s going to need another tank or two to relearn the parameters or something. So I am not writing it off just yet. This last tank included the daily work grind, plus a trip to Werribee and back and also a trip to Uncle Kev’s and back!
Photo’s of the aftermath of the trip to Kev’s are pending. Will post up as soon as I take some, but don’t get too excited, it didn’t quite turn out as planned. Then again, like that is a surprise with me! :?
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby misk » March 9th, 2010, 9:41 am

520km from a tank in a falcon is pretty good man...
your driving a heavy 4l lol not a corolla
on petrol im lucky to get 300km....
i get more on gas lol
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby galapogos01 » March 9th, 2010, 9:43 am

Nice one. See how you go on the next tank, as I said I was very hesitant to lean on the timing too much given the stock cam so there's definitely more to be had there. Will sort out a retune for nix as per the PM :)

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Postby EFFalcon » March 9th, 2010, 9:47 am

4wd?
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby ClassicAU » March 9th, 2010, 10:01 am

Awesome, I guess I need to bring my expectations down a little then, cheers guys. The only reason I wasn't over the moon about it, is that I remeber Jason saying he has gotten 550kms out of a tank with his car, with the blower on! So I figured a stocker should be able to at least match that.
Thanks Jason, I think I'll just persist with how it is now and see how it goes in the next tank or two. Hopefully it continues to improve, i'll keep you informed.

Haha, its actually the complete opposite of that John! It has been de-4WD'ed if you will! :P
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby misk » March 9th, 2010, 10:03 am

a car with forced induction will get better economy if you drive it right.
you cant compare the 2
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Postby EFFalcon » March 9th, 2010, 10:23 am

Yeah, don't forget that Jason has done a lot of tweaking to get his where it is now.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby ClassicAU » March 9th, 2010, 10:28 am

You do speak the truth boys. I guess I shouldn't be looking the gift EL in the mouth then hey! Getting just over a weeks worth of driving out of a tank is pretty good then, I'll just stick with it.
Next on the list is to try an organise to get what is now confirmed to be a LSD swapped into my housing. The one I picked up for Kris, as we werent sure if it was a limo or not. I took it with me to Kev's and he is pretty confident it is, so I am happy! Just gotta find the time to get it done.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby misk » March 9th, 2010, 11:05 am

i'd rip my gas system out if i could get 500+ ks from a tank of petrol lol
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby Gozza » March 9th, 2010, 11:12 am

I just got 300km from a 3rd of a tank. All highway. Usually 400-450 which is mainly little trips these days.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby ClassicAU » March 9th, 2010, 6:15 pm

Just took a couple of quick photos with the phone, but I'm sure you get the idea!
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Anyway, I have to thank Kev and Bomber for their sterling effort yesterday. I have never seen a full set of springs get changed so quickly in my life!! In the driveway with a trolley jack no less! Thanks heaps guys, appreciate it. Unfortunately it didn't quite come out as I had visioned, but I believe that is my fault. I am pretty sure these springs are V8 springs, so the front is sitting too high. Still stock shocks though, so I that doesn't help either. Rear is ok though, if anything a little too low! So yeah, no longer grandpa spec!
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby misk » March 9th, 2010, 6:18 pm

shame about the springs mate.
looks nice though!
the fronts may settle a bit, didnt think the V8 would really be that much heavier than the 6 anyway
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby ClassicAU » March 9th, 2010, 6:32 pm

Not all lost, Kev said he may be able to rectify the situation. Persuade the springs to sit a little lower, if you know what i mean! ;) I may have to invest in a pair of shortened shocks though, just to be on the safe side.
I am not here nor there on the looks yet, seems too VN Calais for my liking as it is! :P
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby Sunboost » March 9th, 2010, 6:44 pm

Car looks good man. In a funeral parlour courtesy vehicle kind of way lol :P
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Postby EFFalcon » March 9th, 2010, 7:22 pm

It does have that feel to it doesn't it sunny.

its the colour/wheel combo :P
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Postby [Sterling] » March 9th, 2010, 7:23 pm

Might get better k's now Ev seeing as its lower to the ground.
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby wicksy » March 9th, 2010, 7:53 pm

550km fark i am lucky to get 350km to a tank in our vt around town
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby ClassicAU » March 9th, 2010, 7:54 pm

Uuuum...........thanks? :?

Lol, it really does look weird doesn't it! Like its not meant to be that low. It's going to take a week at least for me to stop laughing every time I look at it in person! I dunno, I think its pretty cool. I was actually inspired by the old SlY5LT machine, which I believe is/was dumped on the same wheels. I recon it will look better once the front comes down.

Hahaha, thanks Kester, something to do with aerodynamics or low centre of gravity or something! :lol: That or the fully sickness will help it run smoother!
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Postby ClassicAU » March 9th, 2010, 7:55 pm

wicksy wrote:550km fark i am lucky to get 350km to a tank in our vt around town


Not just around town though dude, that did include a couple of freeway trips. Still, not too bad for a 12 year old stocker!
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby Bipolar » March 9th, 2010, 8:10 pm

I agree with the others - it looks eerily good. Like I'm not supposed to like staring at it, but I do.
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Postby UNEZED » March 9th, 2010, 8:35 pm

looks good but as i said to ya at kevs LOWER LOWERRRRRRRRR
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Postby private9 » March 9th, 2010, 9:00 pm

Nice leb rake Ev, suits Rezza perfectly now :grin:
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - sacked bro!

Postby ClassicAU » March 10th, 2010, 9:03 am

LOL @ Todd, thats gold mate, I love it!!! :lol:

As for the other two, how does shut up sound! :P It's bloody low enough as it is Shaun, I told you it aint happening. If you had your way it would be bump stop, wheel, road, the end! Hopefully it will look better once the front is down, I'm not a fan of the northern suburbs look!
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - sacked bro!

Postby nstg8a » March 10th, 2010, 11:43 am

i forgot how tidy the old girl is...
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - sacked bro!

Postby pHaT`eL » March 10th, 2010, 3:18 pm

All it needs now is a spool and some venetians :)
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - sacked bro!

Postby ClassicAU » March 10th, 2010, 4:32 pm

YES!! Pete, you are on the money, someone find me some venitians please!!! Oh, and the drivers door weather shield! I must have them! Seriously, where can I get those items?

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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - sacked bro!

Postby XR_Lightning » March 10th, 2010, 5:05 pm

this sat mad at Kev's on monday after it was dumped, front just needs to come down now
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Re: ClassicEL - Grandpa machine - now with J3

Postby SNR » March 11th, 2010, 7:25 am

[Sterling] wrote:Might get better k's now Ev seeing as its lower to the ground.


Probably worse, looks like it's going to be driving uphill all the time now ;)
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