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Postby EFFalcon » September 3rd, 2010, 10:38 am

With emmisions laws getting tough and tougher i can see things getting more difficult for late model cars too.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby EF ECTIV » September 3rd, 2010, 3:20 pm

looks like ford are onto a good thing... Been a while coming with the V8s unfortunately... add intercooler,
up the boost and away you go... factory charged v8=winnah...
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby nstg8a » September 3rd, 2010, 4:45 pm

EF ECTIV wrote:looks like ford are onto a good thing... Been a while coming with the V8s unfortunately... add intercooler,
up the boost and away you go... factory charged v8=winnah...



i agree....

i have another theory too, if herrods has already developed an aftermarket cooler for it, then ford must have given them a pre-production version to set it up...

factory charged intercooled V8 in fg3 maybe?
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby burnt turtle » September 3rd, 2010, 6:18 pm

Mr_4.0 wrote:I work for fords. All these questions have answers. Sucks I'd be risked my job to answer them.

hahahaha so do i, trying to make yaself feel good??
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Mr_4.0 » September 3rd, 2010, 6:45 pm

I'm confused
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby meteora_man » September 4th, 2010, 12:50 am

burnt turtle wrote:
Mr_4.0 wrote:I work for fords. All these questions have answers. Sucks I'd be risked my job to answer them.

hahahaha so do i, trying to make yaself feel good??


Hahaha! It does seem like that.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Mr_4.0 » September 4th, 2010, 3:53 pm

Pfft
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby burnt turtle » September 4th, 2010, 3:58 pm

lol
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby EBIIsasquatch » September 4th, 2010, 4:28 pm

335 kw isnt much from a supercharged v8, i think ford are holding off on the high power till they can source new transmissions because the ZF 6 speed is limited to 600nm of torque. but remember this engine is over 100kgs lighter than the Current Boss 5.4L motors.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Mr_4.0 » September 4th, 2010, 4:30 pm

It's very conservative
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby burnt turtle » September 4th, 2010, 5:59 pm

why bring out a new motor with a charger on it and have it making 400+kw? they needa leave space for the gt-ho to make more remember
they have so much room to play so they aint looking for power
imagine driving a charged one of these against a commodore......it will smash it coz of the torque and power delivery
and then you will have people tuning them coz its such a good base.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Mr_4.0 » September 4th, 2010, 6:27 pm

Testing seen a lot more than 335 odd kw.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Mr_4.0 » September 4th, 2010, 6:28 pm

Testing seen a lot more than 335 odd kw.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby stevo » September 4th, 2010, 6:30 pm

Why would they make it more then 335? There is no need at the moment....
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby burnt turtle » September 4th, 2010, 6:41 pm

stevo wrote:Why would they make it more then 335? There is no need at the moment....

exactly

Mr_4.0 wrote:Testing seen a lot more than 335 odd kw.

testing and the figure they release them with are 2 different things
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Postby Mr_4.0 » September 4th, 2010, 6:49 pm

I understand that. Are u just out to try rip on me? Apart from the obvious (economy, emissions, no big need to over power the falcon right now) there were very specific reasons with the car as to why power was curbed. Very specific.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Mr_4.0 » September 4th, 2010, 6:49 pm

I understand that. Are u just out to try rip on me? Apart from the obvious (economy, emissions, no big need to over power the falcon right now) there were very specific reasons with the car as to why power was curbed. Very specific.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Dumpsta » September 4th, 2010, 9:24 pm

I remember hearing the FG1's had understated power figures (meaning they made more then what it said in print) and the VE's has overstated... is this true? Kudo's to ford if it is..

Will be interesting to see what a HO makes... and if they do... Is it a certain thing?
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Postby needfordspeed » September 4th, 2010, 11:00 pm

Mr_4.0 wrote:I understand that. Are u just out to try rip on me? Apart from the obvious (economy, emissions, no big need to over power the falcon right now) there were very specific reasons with the car as to why power was curbed. Very specific.


You work at the Ford factory, or the engine plant in Geelong or something don't you? PM me with more info, promise I won't say a word :D

Pretty sure burnt turtle only works for a dealer, I doubt he knows anything :P
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby bentls » September 4th, 2010, 11:05 pm

Dealers aren't told shit. We saw an fg about a week before they were released that's it. Car mags saw them before we ever did
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Parfrey » September 4th, 2010, 11:15 pm

was the specific reason because of the rear end and warrenty?

lets hope they have no resale value at all, so i can buy one cheap as in 12months time :D
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby EF ECTIV » September 4th, 2010, 11:32 pm

Dumpsta wrote:I remember hearing the FG1's had understated power figures (meaning they made more then what it said in print) and the VE's has overstated... is this true? Kudo's to ford if it is..

Will be interesting to see what a HO makes... and if they do... Is it a certain thing?


well known workshop over here bought a brand new FG Typhoon and put it straight onto the dyno after delivery.... No
mods, no nothing.... Pulled 290rwkw....
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby burnt turtle » September 5th, 2010, 10:49 am

Mr_4.0 wrote:I understand that. Are u just out to try rip on me? Apart from the obvious (economy, emissions, no big need to over power the falcon right now) there were very specific reasons with the car as to why power was curbed. Very specific.

relax mate the first post i was just taking the piss
needfordspeed wrote:Pretty sure burnt turtle only works for a dealer, I doubt he knows anything :P

ouch :(
Dumpsta wrote:I remember hearing the FG1's had understated power figures (meaning they made more then what it said in print) and the VE's has overstated... is this true? Kudo's to ford if it is..

Will be interesting to see what a HO makes... and if they do... Is it a certain thing?

i dunno bout the VE's but i do agree that ford has done that
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Postby nothin suss » September 5th, 2010, 11:17 am

It is an exciting car to drive, i still have a 'soft' spot for the F6 tho :)
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby Mr_4.0 » September 5th, 2010, 11:33 am

Even the xr8 is a handful! Sucks it won't be released same time as the fpvs.
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Postby EFFalcon » September 5th, 2010, 11:33 am

atleast theres some confirmation of an XR8 :P
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Postby Mr_4.0 » September 5th, 2010, 11:58 am

U refering to my post John? Hahaha
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Postby Troutman » September 5th, 2010, 8:42 pm

Dumpsta wrote:I remember hearing the FG1's had understated power figures (meaning they made more then what it said in print) and the VE's has overstated... is this true? Kudo's to ford if it is..


Historically, one of the two measured power figures for its engines including all anciliaries, whereas the other didn't. I can't remember which is which. If it worked in Ford's favour, a 200 kW Ford would be significantly more powerful than a 200 kW Holden.

The GTHO has been repeatedly denied, and for good reason. It would only be a politically incorrect statement at a difficult time in Ford's history. And whatever power figure it produces, it would be pretty lame compared to a top-end AMG or Brabus. Let sleeping dogs lie.
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Postby Sunboost » September 6th, 2010, 4:23 pm

I've heard of FG F6's pulling 300 even KW's out of the box, and seen posts on AFF abou them running 12.3's.

No brocky - Sorry, bullshit.

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Postby EF ECTIV » September 7th, 2010, 1:42 am

Sundeep wrote:I've heard of FG F6's pulling 300 even KW's out of the box, and seen posts on AFF abou them running 12.3's.


I think fritzz managed a 12 out of his parents stock FG phoon,...
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Postby bentls » September 7th, 2010, 5:36 pm

yeh shouldnt be too hard, ive heard of xr6t pulling 12.9s but i might have wires crossed...
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Postby Parfrey » September 7th, 2010, 9:12 pm

yeah fastest FG F6 stock as far as they say has ran a 12.2~ and XR6t a 12.59. gotta love the 6sp autos.

should be interesting :)
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Postby Fritzz » September 8th, 2010, 8:37 pm

yeh parents fg xr6t run 12.94 @ 109mph dead stock on origonal 19's wheels with 5000kms on it, then back it up with a 12.99

that's in normal drive mode with traction control off... f6 and xr6t fg's are just awesome imo
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Postby bushman » September 9th, 2010, 12:28 pm

ALL ARGUEING AND KEYBOARD FIGHTING ASIDE, AS LONG AS IT DOES A GOOD SKID WHO GIVES A TUPPANY ****
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Postby Sunboost » September 9th, 2010, 12:39 pm

bushman wrote:ALL ARGUEING AND KEYBOARD FIGHTING ASIDE, AS LONG AS IT DOES A GOOD SKID WHO GIVES A TUPPANY ****

Windsors do a good skid. In other words, skids don't account for sh!t.
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Postby EFFalcon » September 9th, 2010, 12:44 pm

Its a shame windsors have such a bad rep with eseries.
in everything else they were used in they were pretty good :P
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Postby NickosEL » September 9th, 2010, 5:49 pm

EFFalcon wrote:Its a shame windsors have such a bad rep with eseries.
in everything else they were used in they were pretty good :P

its only coz they were the first of the V8's in a long time....then those pesky E7 heads! Cant do much with those, But I do agree, windosr is a great motor that doesnt get much love in Aus as it does in the ol US of A. Mention the numbers 5 point Oh in the states, and think performace, mention 5 point Oh in aus and the usal response is "what, 5 point slow".
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Postby superhuS! » September 27th, 2010, 10:22 pm

NickosEL wrote:
EFFalcon wrote:Its a shame windsors have such a bad rep with eseries.
in everything else they were used in they were pretty good :P

its only coz they were the first of the V8's in a long time....then those pesky E7 heads! Cant do much with those, But I do agree, windosr is a great motor that doesnt get much love in Aus as it does in the ol US of A. Mention the numbers 5 point Oh in the states, and think performace, mention 5 point Oh in aus and the usal response is "what, 5 point slow".



what!

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Postby Troutman » October 5th, 2010, 1:36 pm

In US applications such as the Crown Victoria, the Windsor was replaced by the Modular OHC engine at the same time that Australia received the former as a 'new' engine. Instead of 1992, we got the Modular engine in 2002. Make of this what you will.

The updated GT's 0-100 time is clamed by the manufacturer as 4.9 seconds, compared to 5.1 for the F6. link I thought I read somewhere that the XR6 Turbo's time was 5.1 seconds also, but at least the on-paper numbers put the V8 slightly ahead.
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Re: Coyote Officially Revealed

Postby superhuS! » October 5th, 2010, 2:05 pm

Troutman wrote:In US applications such as the Crown Victoria, the Windsor was replaced by the Modular OHC engine at the same time that Australia received the former as a 'new' engine. Instead of 1992, we got the Modular engine in 2002. Make of this what you will.

The updated GT's 0-100 time is clamed by the manufacturer as 4.9 seconds, compared to 5.1 for the F6. link I thought I read somewhere that the XR6 Turbo's time was 5.1 seconds also, but at least the on-paper numbers put the V8 slightly ahead.


I'm pretty sure the F6 does 0-100km/h in less than 5 seconds.
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