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Postby josh_ef » September 4th, 2010, 6:51 pm

picked this up for $1000

factory 5 speed vn ss in pieces, alloy radiator gilmer drive, cam int he engine (bit rattly)

sold the motor for 700, got offers around 1200 for the 5 speed conversion. going to put a 355 stroker and turbo 350, spooled diff 31 spliners.
and rev it to 7000 unlike my windsor!



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Postby Kenaz » September 4th, 2010, 7:24 pm

Atlas Grey is the best colour for these. Good luck with the project :thumbsup:
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Re: this is what im leaving you for

Postby Rollin » September 4th, 2010, 8:18 pm

Good luck with the interior :)

Also, 355 is gayer than aids. If you don't put an LS1 in it you may as well put in a stock 3.8!
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Postby EF ECTIV » September 4th, 2010, 9:28 pm

+1 atlas grey being the best colour...

seems like a decent buy for the price.... I actually had random dream couple of months ago I owned a
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Postby private9 » September 4th, 2010, 9:50 pm

Rollin wrote:Good luck with the interior :)

Also, 355 is gayer than aids. If you don't put an LS1 in it you may as well put in a stock 3.8!

+1! 5-10k for shit power, or $1500ish for a wrecker spec LS1 and make the same power with a catback exhaust and MAFless tune. There's conversion kits around for these too.
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Postby John_LS1 » September 5th, 2010, 8:06 am

you've still got ford parts on it wtf!!! +1 for LS1
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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 10:22 am

yeah im looking at ls1 also, dunno yet. kinda a cheats way for power lol but yeah think its going to be the way to go

355 can make good power, and alot easier then a 347. plus there alot stronger and more reliable then 347 roller blocks.

hear bad things about early gen 3s? oil pressure issues and things?

i got a place that will do the conversion for 6k drive in drive away with lsa but i can do alot of work my self so i aint paying that kind of money
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Postby stevo » September 5th, 2010, 11:06 am

looks good mate. If ya want a hand yell out and ill drop by!
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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 1:04 pm

yeah no worries mate! going to prep the engine bay first and spray it up, rest of body is pretty damn straight so not going to spray it for short term

going to re loom the whole car with a calais or stato. gotta have elec windows

run al my stereo wiring, good size boot so i can fit my 4 15s in it with some amps and shit happening.
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Postby private9 » September 5th, 2010, 1:30 pm

josh_ef wrote:yeah im looking at ls1 also, dunno yet. kinda a cheats way for power lol but yeah think its going to be the way to go

355 can make good power, and alot easier then a 347. plus there alot stronger and more reliable then 347 roller blocks.

hear bad things about early gen 3s? oil pressure issues and things?

i got a place that will do the conversion for 6k drive in drive away with lsa but i can do alot of work my self so i aint paying that kind of money

How is it a cheat's way of making power? I know you're shit stirring, but that's almost as retarded as the knuckle draggers opinions that turbo's are cheating :P
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Postby ed40 » September 5th, 2010, 1:52 pm

You would be crazy to not put an LS1 or something in it?
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Postby Rollin » September 5th, 2010, 2:17 pm

http://www.performanceforums.com/forums ... t=67257178

Holden V8 oiling systems are gay. LS motors make more power cheaper, have better ECUs, weigh less and leak less.
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Postby OED666 » September 5th, 2010, 5:15 pm

LS1 for sure!!.. sif be bothered with 355.. you may as well fit a 3.2L 6cyl from an early EA, and de-stroke it!
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Postby NickosEL » September 5th, 2010, 5:54 pm

Looks alright, whats the other side of the car look like?? Can you post some pics?
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Postby LOW_XR » September 5th, 2010, 6:02 pm

should go LS2 in it. ive heard from a friend of a friend that they make good power.
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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 6:19 pm

ill get some more pics as i do work on it, just getting body ready at this stage.

even looking at putting a chev in it, 383 or something, carby my mate has a 8 71 on his 383 make 600 rwk no problems

im just dont like the idea of working a stock bottom end hard, i like having forged internals.

its all good to put heads and cam in an ls1 and put a charger on it but how long with the bottom end last?
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Postby private9 » September 5th, 2010, 6:24 pm

josh_ef wrote:im just dont like the idea of working a stock bottom end hard, i like having forged internals.

its all good to put heads and cam in an ls1 and put a charger on it but how long with the bottom end last?

As long as you don't send it to a ping specialist and it's semi healthy, they last for ages with reasonable power.
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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 7:42 pm

7k rpm? :evil:
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Postby private9 » September 5th, 2010, 7:53 pm

josh_ef wrote:7k rpm? :evil:

They're around, do some research. But wgaf about revs, how much power do you actually want?
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Postby Rollin » September 5th, 2010, 8:10 pm

Is this going to be budget or do you want to make epic shitloads of power? Either way an LSx is the best way to go.

Trust me, the stock oiling system in the holden motors is ass - did you read the link I posted above? It's worth signing up for, trust me!

A friend of mine has a VT clubby that's been making 400rwhp for a couple of years now, stock bottom end, no dramas, he's taken it to Powercruise twice as well...
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Postby private9 » September 5th, 2010, 8:45 pm

Rollin wrote:Is this going to be budget or do you want to make epic shitloads of power? Either way an LSx is the best way to go.

Trust me, the stock oiling system in the holden motors is ass - did you read the link I posted above? It's worth signing up for, trust me!

A friend of mine has a VT clubby that's been making 400rwhp for a couple of years now, stock bottom end, no dramas, he's taken it to Powercruise twice as well...

But then you don't get to dream about building a forged internal stroker that'll rev to 11ty rpm and will make 220rwkw for lotsa $$$ :P
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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 9:07 pm

exactly, vt 5 litre or vt gen 3?

yeah i read the forum, i am leaning more towards gen 3. even the guys on the vn ss forum i joined are telling me i wont have change from 10 to build a 355 and it will only make 250 rwk, my fkn windsor was cheaper and would of had that power if wasnt de comped.

looking up vy wrecks now :shock:
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Postby private9 » September 5th, 2010, 9:22 pm

josh_ef wrote:exactly, vt 5 litre or vt gen 3?

yeah i read the forum, i am leaning more towards gen 3. even the guys on the vn ss forum i joined are telling me i wont have change from 10 to build a 355 and it will only make 250 rwk, my fkn windsor was cheaper and would of had that power if wasnt de comped.

looking up vy wrecks now :shock:

Buy a VX onwards LS1. VT2 LS1 has a crap manifold, and not as good HGs.

Search around wreckers, but they go for as little as 1k as good runners if you hunt around.

10k for a decent 355 is on the ball, and you'll be lucky to make 250rwkw with no potential for more without forced induction.

A bolt on only LS1, ie stock cam will nearly do that. You just need an intake, tune, full exhaust and U/D kit to get there.

As a bonus, they share the old Chev bolt pattern so a TH350/400/Glide bolts up.

Research and buy right, and you'll do the conversion making 250rwkw for under 10k.

Or better yet, just go buy a VT/VX that probably has most of those mods for around the same price!
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Postby Rollin » September 5th, 2010, 9:28 pm

The VN will go faster though....

The way I see it, you should actually put a 2J in this car, or sell it and put a LSx into an EA :)
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Postby private9 » September 5th, 2010, 9:32 pm

Rollin wrote:The VN will go faster though....

The way I see it, you should actually put a 2J in this car, or sell it and put a LSx into an EA :)

http://streetcommodores.com.au/showthread.php?t=8464273
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Postby sk8n6 » September 5th, 2010, 9:32 pm

Go Ls engine the 5 litre is outdated an and slow. My mates got a sv enhanced vn calais and i can beat it in dads stock ef wagon on gas.
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Postby bentls » September 5th, 2010, 9:35 pm

Offer me 11 for mine it's yours. I'll throw in some other spares n shit. Add ur alloy rad gilmer etc and up boost ull see well over 250rwkw(238 on 7psi) driven it daily for over 6 months 1 axle is all I've had to replace. Straight cut blower + deep 5l rumble > ls1 any day of the week
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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 9:35 pm

well i got offered 1k for rolling shell (interior and lst few bits and pieces)

manual converison will go for around 1200, motor went for 700

its well and truly made its money, and then my mate (ford nut) who has cracked it at me for buying a holden plasters this all over my facebook

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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 9:38 pm

i want ya tail lights bentls ya tinted ones

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Postby bentls » September 5th, 2010, 9:41 pm

I dunno where they went lol I think they ended up smashed at low_xrs place I don't think there at my place still lol. Get a $15 can of vht nightshade an do it yourself lol
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Postby bentls » September 5th, 2010, 9:44 pm

korupd wrote:Go Ls engine the 5 litre is outdated an and slow. My mates got a sv enhanced vn calais and i can beat it in dads stock ef wagon on gas.

Race my 304 then hero
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Postby sk8n6 » September 5th, 2010, 9:48 pm

Anytime wont use dads car tho. There are some good ones but most i see now are thrashed out junkers. But I'll race EA back together soon i'll PM you when its done.
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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 9:49 pm

ahh ok so there just tined? thats ill do em me self, my ed had it and i loved it all dark

i think ya need to bring your rig around and take me for a spin ben
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Postby bentls » September 5th, 2010, 9:54 pm

Yeah it converts kunce let me tell u. Dylan went in it and sold his au ;) I needa cam mine an smash out 250@ wheels on same boost. I have a daily now so can take it off road and do it. 3.08spool makes it hook up good (well not in first but can get traction in 2nd if I try ;)
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Postby josh_ef » September 5th, 2010, 10:08 pm

yeah definetly going to have to bring it aorund before ya get rid of it dude. im keen to see what a 5 litre goes like on boost
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Postby sk8n6 » September 5th, 2010, 10:11 pm

My mates 215 clubby went allright on 5psi but irs didn't like. And to much bottom end not enough top end power.
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Postby bentls » September 5th, 2010, 10:13 pm

215s r fail. Shit 355 setup I hear
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Postby TUFED6 » September 6th, 2010, 11:50 am

Thats interesting reading about the oiling system in the Holden V8's, makes you wonder what the touring car guys were doing back in the day to get around it. They would have been dry sump but the same principals would apply...

Can't help but think what the guy on PF has done is overkill & the same thing could be achieved with some restrictor plugs here&there.
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Postby josh_ef » September 6th, 2010, 12:33 pm

korupd wrote:My mates 215 clubby went allright on 5psi but irs didn't like. And to much bottom end not enough top end power.



215s are senators not clubbies, clubbies are only 304 cubic inch 185 kw

215s were senators or gto only with 355 factory stroker 215 kw
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